Russian airstrikes in Syria

[Slakonian]

So why does Assad only control 18% of Syria if he's so popular?

Why are 30,000 people fighting for various FSA offspring groups, and 70,000 fighting for ISIS and fuck knows how many fighting for Al-Nusrah?

I don't say he is popular but he supported by the minorities who are the Shia Muslims and Christians who know that if Assad falls a new large genocide will happen

[DBJ]

Except Syrians, one presumes.

Especially Syrians.

How do you think Assads resists all the attempts to destroy his regime? Do you think he would be able to hold regime together, if there wasn't actual, real syrian public support?

If people and I mean common syrian people, soldiers, workers, peasants, not (only) baathist elites, didn't supported him, he would be dead or exiled years ago already.

If common Syrian guy, who didn't ran already, of course, had only three real options, Al Qaeda, ISIL and the regime, option to pick is obvious.

Which actually are the only options now. FSA as real major power in Syrian Civil War exists now only in western newspapers.

Syrians love barrel bombs dropping on their heads and the joy of getting high on sarin.

[The balkens]

So why does Assad only control 18% of Syria if he's so popular?

Why are 30,000 people fighting for various FSA offspring groups, and 70,000 fighting for ISIS and fuck knows how many fighting for Al-Nusrah?

I don't say he is popular but he supported by the minorities who are the Shia Muslims and Christians who know that if Assad falls a new large genocide will happen

So what youre saying is that we need to barrel bomb the majority into the minority.

[Socialist Czechia]

So why does Assad only control 18% of Syria if he's so popular?

Why are 30,000 people fighting for various FSA offspring groups, and 70,000 fighting for ISIS and fuck knows how many fighting for Al-Nusrah?

most obvious answer, because most populous and urbanized western Syria is not so desert area, like rest of the country? xD look just once on map of Syria, before you ask again.
its like wondering, why Siberians doesn't control Russia, since Siberia is so huge

*sigh* as i said, there is no actual FSA anymore, even some western countries admitted that before Russian intervention. last US attempts to ressurect the 'liberal opposition' with soldiers trained in NATO camps ended as epic fail, since all of them were killed or captured by Al Qaeda/Al Nusra.

what's left from 'liberal opposition' aka FSA are few outposts and villages. majority of them joined either terrorist group, used Assad's offer to pardon deserters or simply ran to Europe, most popular choice.

[Socialist Czechia]

Syrians love barrel bombs dropping on their heads and the joy of getting high on sarin.

It's hard to understand, but yes, harsh autocracy is better than total genocide of minorities and even worse and more brutal dictatorship.

you would choose Stalin before Hitler any time, especially if you were Slav or Jew.

[Slakonian]

So why does Assad only control 18% of Syria if he's so popular?

Why are 30,000 people fighting for various FSA offspring groups, and 70,000 fighting for ISIS and fuck knows how many fighting for Al-Nusrah?

most obvious answer, because most populous and urbanized western Syria is not so desert area, like rest of the country? xD look just once on map of Syria, before you ask again.
its like wondering, why Siberians doesn't control Russia, since Siberia is so huge

*sigh* as i said, there is no actual FSA anymore, even some western countries admitted that before Russian intervention. last US attempts to ressurect the 'liberal opposition' with soldiers trained in NATO camps ended as epic fail, since all of them were killed or captured by Al Qaeda/Al Nusra.

what's left from 'liberal opposition' aka FSA are few outposts and villages. majority of them joined either terrorist group, used Assad's offer to pardon deserters or simply ran to Europe, most popular choice.

true, we stated too many times already. But it seems everyone thinks that the "FSA" still exists but it's nothing more than extremists who are using their banner to attract support.

So Russia is in Syria for a week and they seemed to have massacred thousands according to western media and USA was already there for year and they didn't bombed a single hospital etc. what a pile of bullcrap

[The balkens]

Russia got involved at the last minute because they find Assad to be useful.

You think they care about minorities Like Yazidis and shit? I dont think so.

[Slakonian]

Russia got involved at the last minute because they find Assad to be useful.

You think they care about minorities Like Yazidis and shit? I dont think so.

the cycle all over again? Mayeb they don't if that's what you like to hear but the minorities will continue to support them due to the reasons already stated.

[The balkens]

Russia got involved at the last minute because they find Assad to be useful.

You think they care about minorities Like Yazidis and shit? I dont think so.

the cycle all over again? Mayeb they don't if that's what you like to hear but the minorities will continue to support them due to the reasons already stated.

Perhaps its because Assad presents the status quo of not barrel bombing them?

[Socialist Czechia]

Russia got involved at the last minute because they find Assad to be useful.

You think they care about minorities Like Yazidis and shit? I dont think so.

Russia is involved there, like, from the start, in fact.

They chose direct involvement right now, because now, Russia can gain much with almost no risk.

Russia is just more careful, Afghanistan was epic fail enough to stop thinking about such adventures.
Only 'Muricans are **** enough to bomb and invade everything just like that, again and again, being again and again surprised, what a mess happened and surprised it didn't worked as they wanted to work

Like almost defunct state of Iraq.

Or NATO/'Murican bombing campaigns against Gaddafi. What they actually achieved, or what they thought they would achieve? That magical democratic leadership will appear?
Now there is no state of Libya, just an islamist mess like Somalia. Congratulations.
Not thinking ahead happened again?

[The balkens]

Russia got involved at the last minute because they find Assad to be useful.

You think they care about minorities Like Yazidis and shit? I dont think so.

Russia is involved there, like, from the start, in fact.

They chose direct involvement right now, because now, Russia can gain much with almost no risk.

Russia is just more careful, Afghanistan was epic fail enough to stop thinking about such adventures.
Only 'Muricans are **** enough to bomb and invade everything just like that, again and again, being again and again surprised, what a mess happened and surprised it didn't worked as they wanted to work

Like almost defunct state of Iraq.

No risk? if the Russians want to be on the top of every psycho in ISIS' Pocket's shit-list? Fine, but id advise that you drop the half-assed act of how Russia is some kind of Savior, they are the same as the US but with more bodies to be buried.

[Gauthier]

Russia just handed ISIS a 'big win' in Syria's largest city

This is either Rick Perry grade Oops, or the Russians think they can get Western sympathy for the Assad regime by letting the IS wipe out the rebels.

[The balkens]

Russia got involved at the last minute because they find Assad to be useful.

You think they care about minorities Like Yazidis and shit? I dont think so.

Russia is involved there, like, from the start, in fact.

They chose direct involvement right now, because now, Russia can gain much with almost no risk.

Russia is just more careful, Afghanistan was epic fail enough to stop thinking about such adventures.
Only 'Muricans are **** enough to bomb and invade everything just like that, again and again, being again and again surprised, what a mess happened and surprised it didn't worked as they wanted to work

Like almost defunct state of Iraq.

Or NATO bombing campaigns against Gaddafi. What they actually achieved, or what they thought they would achieve? That magical democratic leadership will appear?
Now there is no state of Libya, just an islamist mess like Somalia. Congratulations.
Not thinking ahead happened again?

Somalia is a mix of economic issues, tribalism, government collapse and religious fundamentalism, A failed state. Libya has the problem of multiple factions vying for power and like most of the continent that has become unstable is a failed state. Iraq? Please, just another to add to the pile of ideas that we in America didnt think through. The US can win wars but cant build nations from scratch, thats a responsibility of the People of whatever nation that finds itself in the unfortunate situation of being beaten. Another issue the middle east had its borders drawn by Europeans who had little to no knowledge of the areas history, religious conflicts and ethnic strife. It also doesnt help that for most of ME's history, it was either ruled by Warlords, Persians, Ottomans and other large spanning empires. You have the cluster fuck of a people with little to no nationalism, religious extremists who think that beheading people is the cool and hip thing to do in the 21st century, despotic dictators, people who suddenly get information on the internet, social media and foreign powers needing resources for their own purposes.

to condense ALL of that, the ME is cluster-fuck of epic proportions, Something that if done right will take CENTURIES to figure out.

[Rio Cana]

Russia just handed ISIS a 'big win' in Syria's largest city

This is either Rick Perry grade Oops, or the Russians think they can get Western sympathy for the Assad regime by letting the IS wipe out the rebels.

The more land the enemy secures the more there forces will thin out. Which means the Syrian military, supposedly, will thus be able to easily break through the enemies line of defenses.

I still think the question is, who is still supplying ISIS. Looking at the map below, the territory ISIS controls is landlocked. Waging a war costs money and much supplies. There resistance at this point should be starting to crack if new supplies were not being brought in.

Map - http://static3.businessinsider.com/imag ... -oct_7.png

[Allanea]

Not to mention that lots of ISIS and Al-Nusrah fighters were no doubt killed in the engagement.

[Socialist Czechia]

ISIL's massacre of Al Nusra

Al Nusra's massacre of ISIL.

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victory for the government and all it's citizens

[Socialist Czechia]

No risk? if the Russians want to be on the top of every psycho in ISIS' Pocket's shit-list? Fine, but id advise that you drop the half-assed act of how Russia is some kind of Savior, they are the same as the US but with more bodies to be buried.

Russians always destroyed everyone who dared to be threat to them.

And ISIL is a worm compared to Golden Horde, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, French Empire or Third Reich.

[The balkens]

No risk? if the Russians want to be on the top of every psycho in ISIS' Pocket's shit-list? Fine, but id advise that you drop the half-assed act of how Russia is some kind of Savior, they are the same as the US but with more bodies to be buried.

Russians always destroyed everyone who dared to be threat to them.

And ISIL is a worm compared to Golden Horde, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, French Empire or Third Reich.

Thats the thing about Terrorism. They dont have to be on the battlefield to hurt you.

[Gauthier]

Russians always destroyed everyone who dared to be threat to them.

And ISIL is a worm compared to Golden Horde, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, French Empire or Third Reich.

Thats the thing about Terrorism. They dont have to be on the battlefield to hurt you.

The Iraqi army got squashed, but once the insurgency began... Mission Accomplished.

[The balkens]

Thats the thing about Terrorism. They dont have to be on the battlefield to hurt you.

The Iraqi army got squashed, but once the insurgency began... Mission Accomplished.

Like i said, we can win wars on the battlefield but suck after the fact in the middle east.
Europe? turned out well enough to keep it stable.

[Greed and Death]

Russia has sent in the Spetsnaz, along with a support force of 75,000 infantry.

[Kubra]

No risk? if the Russians want to be on the top of every psycho in ISIS' Pocket's shit-list? Fine, but id advise that you drop the half-assed act of how Russia is some kind of Savior, they are the same as the US but with more bodies to be buried.

Russians always destroyed everyone who dared to be threat to them.

And ISIL is a worm compared to Golden Horde, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, French Empire or Third Reich.

afghanistan

[The balkens]

Russians always destroyed everyone who dared to be threat to them.

And ISIL is a worm compared to Golden Horde, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, French Empire or Third Reich.

afghanistan

poland, finland. the west.

[May Mays]

The western world is winning battles left and right.

The media is its biggest enemy. Negative spins on everything, making it seem like we're losing battles.

A new PR nightmare every day. The middle east today is very different from what it was 20 years ago, 30, 40 years ago. All that's left now is a western nation that doesn't want to admit how bad it fucked everything up, and a power-crazed "president" propping up a valuable pawn. And a few small factions, fighting over scraps, like they're fist-sized diamonds, giving more fuel for anti-west propaganda.

[Rio Cana]

Russians always destroyed everyone who dared to be threat to them.

And ISIL is a worm compared to Golden Horde, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, French Empire or Third Reich.

afghanistan

To be fair, the Soviets at that time and the US and NATO today are having kind of the same problem. It all has to do with enemy forces hiding out in Pakistan. At least the US has been able to fly exploding drones into Pakistan . I do not think the Soviets did the same since they knew it could bring the US and most likely NATO into the conflict.