He said he'd push for civil rights in Russia. And while I dislike the Russian government, I don't want silly concepts like "revenge".
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by Geilinor » Sun Oct 04, 2015 5:48 pm
by Chossudovsky » Sun Oct 04, 2015 5:50 pm
Shofercia wrote:Vistulange wrote:What are you, five years old?
"Its going to happen lol u just cant accept it lol"
Really?
Look at the grammar: its will become reality... classic! Reminds of "Tenny tenny much DeNiro in su trucky-trailer"Chossudovsky wrote:
lol, you really think that the US corporatocracy cares about what the public thinks when it comes to foreign wars? In 2000, George W Bush was a non interventionist candidate and look how that turned out. Just because candidates are saying that they won't intervene abroad during the campaign doesn't mean that they will go against the wishes of their corporate masters when in office.
Yes, it does. You should've seen the massive PR push against the public during run up to the Iraq War. You don't think the WMD claim was made solely for the UN, right?
by The balkens » Sun Oct 04, 2015 5:50 pm
by The balkens » Sun Oct 04, 2015 5:52 pm
Shofercia wrote:The balkens wrote:
Never said i hated the Russian people.
All my life, ive grown from hating the soviets to hating the Russians to hating the Russian government and those that bend over backwards to defend it like their life depended it. You say i want war?
Pah, i want revenge, Shof; for something that people on your bandwagon will say was "justified."
You called the 1990s, the worse time for the Russian People since Hitler invaded the USSR, "wondrous" and are practically begging for "extension" of said time frame. And since countries undergo population changes, revenge against countries isn't really justified.
by Shofercia » Sun Oct 04, 2015 5:53 pm
by Geilinor » Sun Oct 04, 2015 5:54 pm
The balkens wrote:Shofercia wrote:
You called the 1990s, the worse time for the Russian People since Hitler invaded the USSR, "wondrous" and are practically begging for "extension" of said time frame. And since countries undergo population changes, revenge against countries isn't really justified.
70 years aint that long for population changes.
by The balkens » Sun Oct 04, 2015 5:55 pm
Shofercia wrote:Geilinor wrote:He said he'd push for civil rights in Russia. And while I dislike the Russian government, I don't want silly concepts like "revenge".
Balk doesn't care about the context; for him it's just another chance to flame Russia. We all saw what Balkens said about Russia and Russians. He wants revenge, and if thousands of elderly die of hunger of thousands of kids die of cold, that's just collateral damage for him. He's not in this for Human Rights. He wants Revenge. And that, Geilinor, is the difference between you and Balkens. You hate Putin because he doesn't promote Civil Rights in Russia. Balkens despises Putin because under Putin, Russia became strong, but in order to get people like you on his side, he'll jump on the Human Rights bandwagon.
by Vistulange » Sun Oct 04, 2015 5:55 pm
Shofercia wrote:Geilinor wrote:He said he'd push for civil rights in Russia. And while I dislike the Russian government, I don't want silly concepts like "revenge".
Balk doesn't care about the context; for him it's just another chance to flame Russia. We all saw what Balkens said about Russia and Russians. He wants revenge, and if thousands of elderly die of hunger of thousands of kids die of cold, that's just collateral damage for him. He's not in this for Human Rights. He wants Revenge. And that, Geilinor, is the difference between you and Balkens. You hate Putin because he doesn't promote Civil Rights in Russia. Balkens despises Putin because under Putin, Russia became strong, but in order to get people like you on his side, he'll jump on the Human Rights bandwagon.
The balkens wrote:Shofercia wrote:
Balk doesn't care about the context; for him it's just another chance to flame Russia. We all saw what Balkens said about Russia and Russians. He wants revenge, and if thousands of elderly die of hunger of thousands of kids die of cold, that's just collateral damage for him. He's not in this for Human Rights. He wants Revenge. And that, Geilinor, is the difference between you and Balkens. You hate Putin because he doesn't promote Civil Rights in Russia. Balkens despises Putin because under Putin, Russia became strong, but in order to get people like you on his side, he'll jump on the Human Rights bandwagon.
What if i said that i am part of the LBGT community, SHof? makes what you said awfully fucking stupid.
by The balkens » Sun Oct 04, 2015 5:56 pm
by Chossudovsky » Sun Oct 04, 2015 5:56 pm
Shofercia wrote:Geilinor wrote:He said he'd push for civil rights in Russia. And while I dislike the Russian government, I don't want silly concepts like "revenge".
Balk doesn't care about the context; for him it's just another chance to flame Russia. We all saw what Balkens said about Russia and Russians. He wants revenge, and if thousands of elderly die of hunger of thousands of kids die of cold, that's just collateral damage for him. He's not in this for Human Rights. He wants Revenge. And that, Geilinor, is the difference between you and Balkens. You hate Putin because he doesn't promote Civil Rights in Russia. Balkens despises Putin because under Putin, Russia became strong, but in order to get people like you on his side, he'll jump on the Human Rights bandwagon.
by Neu Leonstein » Sun Oct 04, 2015 5:56 pm
by The balkens » Sun Oct 04, 2015 5:57 pm
Chossudovsky wrote:Shofercia wrote:
Balk doesn't care about the context; for him it's just another chance to flame Russia. We all saw what Balkens said about Russia and Russians. He wants revenge, and if thousands of elderly die of hunger of thousands of kids die of cold, that's just collateral damage for him. He's not in this for Human Rights. He wants Revenge. And that, Geilinor, is the difference between you and Balkens. You hate Putin because he doesn't promote Civil Rights in Russia. Balkens despises Putin because under Putin, Russia became strong, but in order to get people like you on his side, he'll jump on the Human Rights bandwagon.
How does Putin not support civil rights in Russia?
by Shofercia » Sun Oct 04, 2015 5:57 pm
Chossudovsky wrote:And how did that work out? Did public opinion prevent the US from going to war in Iraq? No. America's rulers don't care whether there is a interventionist or non-interventionist president in the White House, they will have their war and if they want they will get enough of the public to support their war through the corporate media through outright lies like they did in Iraq.
The balkens wrote:Shofercia wrote:
You called the 1990s, the worse time for the Russian People since Hitler invaded the USSR, "wondrous" and are practically begging for "extension" of said time frame. And since countries undergo population changes, revenge against countries isn't really justified.
70 years aint that long for population changes.
by Vistulange » Sun Oct 04, 2015 5:57 pm
Chossudovsky wrote:Shofercia wrote:
Balk doesn't care about the context; for him it's just another chance to flame Russia. We all saw what Balkens said about Russia and Russians. He wants revenge, and if thousands of elderly die of hunger of thousands of kids die of cold, that's just collateral damage for him. He's not in this for Human Rights. He wants Revenge. And that, Geilinor, is the difference between you and Balkens. You hate Putin because he doesn't promote Civil Rights in Russia. Balkens despises Putin because under Putin, Russia became strong, but in order to get people like you on his side, he'll jump on the Human Rights bandwagon.
How does Putin not promote civil rights in Russia?
by The balkens » Sun Oct 04, 2015 5:58 pm
Shofercia wrote:Chossudovsky wrote:And how did that work out? Did public opinion prevent the US from going to war in Iraq? No. America's rulers don't care whether there is a interventionist or non-interventionist president in the White House, they will have their war and if they want they will get enough of the public to support their war through the corporate media through outright lies like they did in Iraq.
No, it didn't, because Americans were fooled. However, when someone attempted a repeat with Syria, Americans weren't fooled; as a result, the US didn't place boots on the ground in Syria.The balkens wrote:
70 years aint that long for population changes.
Yeah, it is. 1.7 million were born in Russia in 2014. Roughly. Multiplying that by a factor of 70, that'd be 119 million innocent people that would be punished. I'd say that's a very significant population change.
by Nirvash Type TheEND » Sun Oct 04, 2015 5:59 pm
Shofercia wrote:Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:The US will always intervene. Regardless of what isolationist lipservice a candidate pays. The President is a man, not an island.
Really? Because I remember how quickly Obama backpedaled on Syria, right after the US public opinion turned against that intervention. Congress too.
by The balkens » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:00 pm
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Shofercia wrote:
Really? Because I remember how quickly Obama backpedaled on Syria, right after the US public opinion turned against that intervention. Congress too.
Barry found a way. Soft touch as it is.
by Chossudovsky » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:00 pm
Shofercia wrote:Chossudovsky wrote:And how did that work out? Did public opinion prevent the US from going to war in Iraq? No. America's rulers don't care whether there is a interventionist or non-interventionist president in the White House, they will have their war and if they want they will get enough of the public to support their war through the corporate media through outright lies like they did in Iraq.
No, it didn't, because Americans were fooled. However, when someone attempted a repeat with Syria, Americans weren't fooled; as a result, the US didn't place boots on the ground in Syria.
by Geilinor » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:01 pm
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Shofercia wrote:
Really? Because I remember how quickly Obama backpedaled on Syria, right after the US public opinion turned against that intervention. Congress too.
Barry found a way. Soft touch as it is.
22 September 2014 - present
by Shofercia » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:01 pm
The balkens wrote:Shofercia wrote:
Balk doesn't care about the context; for him it's just another chance to flame Russia. We all saw what Balkens said about Russia and Russians. He wants revenge, and if thousands of elderly die of hunger of thousands of kids die of cold, that's just collateral damage for him. He's not in this for Human Rights. He wants Revenge. And that, Geilinor, is the difference between you and Balkens. You hate Putin because he doesn't promote Civil Rights in Russia. Balkens despises Putin because under Putin, Russia became strong, but in order to get people like you on his side, he'll jump on the Human Rights bandwagon.
What if i said that i am part of the LBGT community, SHof? makes what you said awfully fucking stupid.
Reason why i didnt bring it up before?
No body asked.
Vistulange wrote:Shofercia wrote:
Balk doesn't care about the context; for him it's just another chance to flame Russia. We all saw what Balkens said about Russia and Russians. He wants revenge, and if thousands of elderly die of hunger of thousands of kids die of cold, that's just collateral damage for him. He's not in this for Human Rights. He wants Revenge. And that, Geilinor, is the difference between you and Balkens. You hate Putin because he doesn't promote Civil Rights in Russia. Balkens despises Putin because under Putin, Russia became strong, but in order to get people like you on his side, he'll jump on the Human Rights bandwagon.
Pretty much.
One person, I respect. The other, not so much.The balkens wrote:
What if i said that i am part of the LBGT community, SHof? makes what you said awfully fucking stupid.
See: "I have black friends!"
Chossudovsky wrote:Shofercia wrote:
Balk doesn't care about the context; for him it's just another chance to flame Russia. We all saw what Balkens said about Russia and Russians. He wants revenge, and if thousands of elderly die of hunger of thousands of kids die of cold, that's just collateral damage for him. He's not in this for Human Rights. He wants Revenge. And that, Geilinor, is the difference between you and Balkens. You hate Putin because he doesn't promote Civil Rights in Russia. Balkens despises Putin because under Putin, Russia became strong, but in order to get people like you on his side, he'll jump on the Human Rights bandwagon.
How does Putin not promote civil rights in Russia?
by Shofercia » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:03 pm
Geilinor wrote:Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Barry found a way. Soft touch as it is.22 September 2014 - present
That page refers to the airstrikes against ISIS, which have ended up getting Russia involved.
by The balkens » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:04 pm
Shofercia wrote:Geilinor wrote:He means that the people leading and fighting for the USSR are dead.
No, that's not what I meant at all. I meant that new ones are being born. 1.7 mil was Russia's births in 2014. Multiply that by 70, that's 119 million people, who are completely innocent of deeds 70 years ago, on account of not being born yet.The balkens wrote:
What if i said that i am part of the LBGT community, SHof? makes what you said awfully fucking stupid.
Reason why i didnt bring it up before?
No body asked.
No it wouldn't. You said you're in this for "revenge". Your words, not mine.Vistulange wrote:
Pretty much.
One person, I respect. The other, not so much.
See: "I have black friends!"
Zing!The balkens wrote:
So is my grandmother but that doesnt stop me.
The poor woman!
by Shofercia » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:07 pm
by Chossudovsky » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:08 pm
by The balkens » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:08 pm
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