Russian airstrikes in Syria

[Constantinopolis]

So what? Assad is the only thing Syria needs. He's a nationalist and not an Islamic Extremist. LONG LIVE ASSAD.

So if Scotland declared independence and the Prime Minister of the UK said that it was illegal then decided to bomb out the Scottish then it's OK because he is a nationalist?

If independent Scotland did what ISIS is doing... then yes, it would be ok.

[Celibrae]

These Arabs and their Islamic religion are dangerous to humanity. We should be supporting these authoritarian dictatorships because they can't democratically rule themselves and the alternative is Islamic government.

The more we get involved and stir the pot, we only instigate ethnic and religious sectarianism that fans and encourages extremism.

We should drop support for rebels and try to gain influence with Assad. And we need a holy Christian crusade to encourage the locals to adopt Christianity to end the vast majority of terrorism once and for all.

So you're arguing for not interfering to prevent religious attacks, yet starting a religious war between the world's two biggest religions?

Got it.

[Uxupox]

So if Scotland declared independence and the Prime Minister of the UK said that it was illegal then decided to bomb out the Scottish then it's OK because he is a nationalist?

If independent Scotland did what ISIS is doing... then yes, it would be ok.

You forget that it's not just ISIS and AL-Nusra that are fighting Assad but the FSA as well.

[Ayamar]

If independent Scotland did what ISIS is doing... then yes, it would be ok.

You forget that it's not just ISIS and AL-Nusra that are fighting Assad but the FSA as well.

The FSA are marxist terrorists

[The balkens]

You forget that it's not just ISIS and AL-Nusra that are fighting Assad but the FSA as well.

The FSA are marxist terrorists

Top kek.

[Uxupox]

You forget that it's not just ISIS and AL-Nusra that are fighting Assad but the FSA as well.

The FSA are marxist terrorists

Can I get a source for that?

[Constantinopolis]

If independent Scotland did what ISIS is doing... then yes, it would be ok.

You forget that it's not just ISIS and AL-Nusra that are fighting Assad but the FSA as well.

ISIS and al-Nusra are the only rebel factions with any realistic chance of winning. The FSA is a joke.

And even the FSA is Islamist! They're just moderately Islamist. Assad's government is the only secular force in this war, and the only one that can be trusted not to persecute religious minorities.

Is Bashar al-Assad an asshole and a war criminal? Sure. So was Winston Churchill. I support both of them anyway, and so should you, because compared to the other side, they're practically angels.

[Constantinopolis]

You forget that it's not just ISIS and AL-Nusra that are fighting Assad but the FSA as well.

The FSA are marxist terrorists

Ha. I wish.

You must be confusing them with the Kurdish forces, the YPG (and their allies inside Turkey, the PKK). The YPG and PKK are indeed Marxist, but they have neither the strength not the desire to move beyond the majority-Kurdish areas of Syria, so Assad is still the only hope to stop ISIS and al-Nusra.

[American Imperial Union]

These Arabs and their Islamic religion are dangerous to humanity. We should be supporting these authoritarian dictatorships because they can't democratically rule themselves and the alternative is Islamic government.

The more we get involved and stir the pot, we only instigate ethnic and religious sectarianism that fans and encourages extremism.

We should drop support for rebels and try to gain influence with Assad. And we need a holy Christian crusade to encourage the locals to adopt Christianity to end the vast majority of terrorism once and for all.

So you're arguing for not interfering to prevent religious attacks, yet starting a religious war between the world's two biggest religions?

Got it.

The problem is not religion. The problem in my opinion is Islam.

[The balkens]

So you're arguing for not interfering to prevent religious attacks, yet starting a religious war between the world's two biggest religions?

Got it.

The problem is not religion. The problem in my opinion is Islam.

Which is a Religion.

[Uxupox]

So you're arguing for not interfering to prevent religious attacks, yet starting a religious war between the world's two biggest religions?

Got it.

The problem is not religion. The problem in my opinion is Islam.

But Islam is religion?

[The Bolshevik State]

So, let's recap:

Rebels mostly centered around the Syrian Revolutionary Command Council are fighting the Syrian government led by Bashar Al-Assad. The main army in the SRCC is the Free Syrian Army. Bashar Al-Assad is supported by Arab nationalists, secularists, Ba'ath, Iran, Hezbollah, Iraq, Russia, and to a lesser extent, Belarus and North Korea. Now Russia is actively involved militarily to "fight ISIS" however, it's more likely they're just here to destroy the opposition and help strengthen Assad. ISIS is fighting both the rebels and the government in the hopes of creating a new Caliphate. Their war extends into Iraq, Afghanistan, and Nigeria. Meanwhile, they are also all fighting al-Nusra front, an Islamist group backed by al-Qaeda. The Kurds in the north are fighting everyone in an attempt to gain some sort of autonomy. They border Turkey who is fighting the Kurds in their own country, so now Turkey is now fighting against the Syrian Kurds to prevent their own Kurds from joining the Syrian Kurds in the fight for independence. Meanwhile, NATO has been supporting the Syrian opposition, however, they haven't taken an active stance in the fight. A coalition of Arab states have also declared their support for the opposition. This bloc is primarily backed by Saudi Arabia, who is also fighting Iranian backed rebels in Yemen. The Brits meanwhile are silently watching the events from Cyprus, sipping their tea. And the Americans have been fighting themselves on weather or not they should join the fight militarily against ISIS. Hezbollah has been operating outside of Lebanon and has captured some of its own territory. The rebels in Yemen, the Houthis, have joined the fight on the side of the government. And Israel has been carefully watching, waiting, it's nuclear weapons ready to strike at any moment peaceful forces ready to help the poor people at any moment. And the fifth army has still yet to show up in the battle for the Misty Mountain and the Dwarvan treasure.

Fucking hell...What a nightmare. Well, this will only serve to inflame the tensions between NATO and Russia even more. Well, time to put on my coat, because this war is about to get...Cold. (I'll show my way out now)

[Uxupox]

So, let's recap:

Rebels mostly centered around the Syrian Revolutionary Command Council are fighting the Syrian government led by Bashar Al-Assad. The main army in the SRCC is the Free Syrian Army. Bashar Al-Assad is supported by Arab nationalists, secularists, Ba'ath, Iran, Hezbollah, Iraq, Russia, and to a lesser extent, Belarus and North Korea. Now Russia is actively involved militarily to "fight ISIS" however, it's more likely they're just here to destroy the opposition and help strengthen Assad. ISIS is fighting both the rebels and the government in the hopes of creating a new Caliphate. Their war extends into Iraq, Afghanistan, and Nigeria. Meanwhile, they are also all fighting al-Nusra front, an Islamist group backed by al-Qaeda. The Kurds in the north are fighting everyone in an attempt to gain some sort of autonomy. They border Turkey who is fighting the Kurds in their own country, so now Turkey is now fighting against the Syrian Kurds to prevent their own Kurds from joining the Syrian Kurds in the fight for independence. Meanwhile, NATO has been supporting the Syrian opposition, however, they haven't taken an active stance in the fight. A coalition of Arab states have also declared their support for the opposition. This bloc is primarily backed by Saudi Arabia, who is also fighting Iranian backed rebels in Yemen. The Brits meanwhile are silently watching the events from Cyprus, sipping their tea. And the Americans have been fighting themselves on weather or not they should join the fight militarily against ISIS. Hezbollah has been operating outside of Lebanon and has captured some of its own territory. The rebels in Yemen, the Houthis, have joined the fight on the side of the government. And Israel has been carefully watching, waiting, it's nuclear weapons ready to strike at any moment peaceful forces ready to help the poor people at any moment. And the fifth army has still yet to show up in the battle for the Misty Mountain and the Dwarvan treasure.

Fucking hell...What a nightmare. Well, this will only serve to inflame the tensions between NATO and Russia even more. Well, time to put on my coat, because this war is about to get...Cold. (I'll show my way out now)

The French actually have started conducting airstrikes almost a weekago.

[Ayamar]

The FSA are marxist terrorists

Can I get a source for that?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Syrian_Army

[Occupied Deutschland]

So, let's recap:

Rebels mostly centered around the Syrian Revolutionary Command Council are fighting the Syrian government led by Bashar Al-Assad. The main army in the SRCC is the Free Syrian Army. Bashar Al-Assad is supported by Arab nationalists, secularists, Ba'ath, Iran, Hezbollah, Iraq, Russia, and to a lesser extent, Belarus and North Korea. Now Russia is actively involved militarily to "fight ISIS" however, it's more likely they're just here to destroy the opposition and help strengthen Assad. ISIS is fighting both the rebels and the government in the hopes of creating a new Caliphate. Their war extends into Iraq, Afghanistan, and Nigeria. Meanwhile, they are also all fighting al-Nusra front, an Islamist group backed by al-Qaeda. The Kurds in the north are fighting everyone in an attempt to gain some sort of autonomy. They border Turkey who is fighting the Kurds in their own country, so now Turkey is now fighting against the Syrian Kurds to prevent their own Kurds from joining the Syrian Kurds in the fight for independence. Meanwhile, NATO has been supporting the Syrian opposition, however, they haven't taken an active stance in the fight. A coalition of Arab states have also declared their support for the opposition. This bloc is primarily backed by Saudi Arabia, who is also fighting Iranian backed rebels in Yemen. The Brits meanwhile are silently watching the events from Cyprus, sipping their tea. And the Americans have been fighting themselves on weather or not they should join the fight militarily against ISIS. Hezbollah has been operating outside of Lebanon and has captured some of its own territory. The rebels in Yemen, the Houthis, have joined the fight on the side of the government. And Israel has been carefully watching, waiting, it's nuclear weapons ready to strike at any moment peaceful forces ready to help the poor people at any moment. And the fifth army has still yet to show up in the battle for the Misty Mountain and the Dwarvan treasure.

Fucking hell...What a nightmare. Well, this will only serve to inflame the tensions between NATO and Russia even more. Well, time to put on my coat, because this war is about to get...Cold. (I'll show my way out now)

Who would've thought when the US hit the reset button with Russia it was resetting to the proxy-war era?

[Uxupox]

Can I get a source for that?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Syrian_Army

Can you explain how they can be both Radical Islamist and Marxist at the same time? Pretty sure they are incompatible with each other.

[Ayamar]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Syrian_Army

Can you explain how they can be both Radical Islamist and Marxist at the same time? Pretty sure they are incompatible with each other.

Wikipedia says it and they change things that are wrong sooooooo
the PKK are radical muslims so were the taliban

[New Frenco Empire]

I'm not going to complain too much if they're targeting ISIS. Of course, nothing is ever that simple...

Why not? Nato and US pilots are actively conducting airstrikes against rebels such as ISIS. Do you think they will care if the jet dropping bombs on them is operated by a Russian or US pilot? They'll do their best to shoot it down anyway.

By the way, for all its faults, I admire your government's attempts to do away with American hegemony. Not all of us Brits are happy with the overbearing, frequently warmongering United States that directly caused the collapse of our Empire being the world superpower. Good luck to Putin on that front, though I support him in basically no other respect.

I guess the whole warmongering and hegemony thing is okay, but just when it's the British Empire doing it? Fucking hell, as a supporter of American/Western power, I truly understand arguments against warmongering and whatnot...but usually it's because of all the victims it creates. Never because they want another Western power to do the exact same thing.

Britain ruled one of (if not) the most powerful, expansive Empires the world had ever seen for about 400 years. Let it go.

[The balkens]

So, let's recap:

Rebels mostly centered around the Syrian Revolutionary Command Council are fighting the Syrian government led by Bashar Al-Assad. The main army in the SRCC is the Free Syrian Army. Bashar Al-Assad is supported by Arab nationalists, secularists, Ba'ath, Iran, Hezbollah, Iraq, Russia, and to a lesser extent, Belarus and North Korea. Now Russia is actively involved militarily to "fight ISIS" however, it's more likely they're just here to destroy the opposition and help strengthen Assad. ISIS is fighting both the rebels and the government in the hopes of creating a new Caliphate. Their war extends into Iraq, Afghanistan, and Nigeria. Meanwhile, they are also all fighting al-Nusra front, an Islamist group backed by al-Qaeda. The Kurds in the north are fighting everyone in an attempt to gain some sort of autonomy. They border Turkey who is fighting the Kurds in their own country, so now Turkey is now fighting against the Syrian Kurds to prevent their own Kurds from joining the Syrian Kurds in the fight for independence. Meanwhile, NATO has been supporting the Syrian opposition, however, they haven't taken an active stance in the fight. A coalition of Arab states have also declared their support for the opposition. This bloc is primarily backed by Saudi Arabia, who is also fighting Iranian backed rebels in Yemen. The Brits meanwhile are silently watching the events from Cyprus, sipping their tea. And the Americans have been fighting themselves on weather or not they should join the fight militarily against ISIS. Hezbollah has been operating outside of Lebanon and has captured some of its own territory. The rebels in Yemen, the Houthis, have joined the fight on the side of the government. And Israel has been carefully watching, waiting, it's nuclear weapons ready to strike at any moment peaceful forces ready to help the poor people at any moment. And the fifth army has still yet to show up in the battle for the Misty Mountain and the Dwarvan treasure.

Fucking hell...What a nightmare. Well, this will only serve to inflame the tensions between NATO and Russia even more. Well, time to put on my coat, because this war is about to get...Cold. (I'll show my way out now)

Who would've thought when the US hit the reset button with Russia it was resetting to the proxy-war era?

It never ended, to be honest. Same assholes, different, just as shitty flag.

[Constantinopolis]

For everyone's information: An anonymous user changed the first sentence of the Wikipedia article on the Free Syrian Army to say "Marxist terrorist organization" at 19:15 UTC on 30 September 2015 (that is, a few minutes ago).

[American Imperial Union]

The problem is not religion. The problem in my opinion is Islam.

But Islam is religion?

What im saying is that Islam as a religion is particularly responsible. Not religions in general, just islam.

[Luna Amore]

Can I get a source for that?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Syrian_Army

There's really little in there to suggest they're broadly Marxist. There certainly could be Marxist elements within the FSA, but the FSA itself is a clusterfuck of amalgamated opposition groups built around a small core of Syrian Army defectors (who may or may not have any kind of broad operational authority over other groups included under their umbrella). So, by definition, the whole group can't be 'Marxist', the whole group isn't coordinated enough to have a set ideology beyond opposition to Assad and ISIS (and the latter one lapses sometimes).

For everyone's information: Anonymous IP address *edited out IP* changed the first sentence of the Wikipedia article on the Free Syrian Army to say "Marxist terrorist organization" at 19:15 UTC on 30 September 2015 (that is, a few minutes ago).

So the only useful information we got out of this is Ayamar's IP address.

Man, c'mon Ayamar, what did Wiki ever do to you?

[Uxupox]

Can you explain how they can be both Radical Islamist and Marxist at the same time? Pretty sure they are incompatible with each other.

Wikipedia says it and they change things that are wrong sooooooo
the PKK are radical muslims so were the taliban

Why modify Wikipedia mate don't deny it Const already clarified it. So the Taliban were Marxist? Hmm, then why did they fight the communist government of Afghanistan? It seems to me to be very counterproductive.

[The balkens]

Wikipedia says it and they change things that are wrong sooooooo
the PKK are radical muslims so were the taliban

Why modify Wikipedia mate don't deny it Const already clarified it. So the Taliban were Marxist? Hmm, then why did they fight the communist government of Afghanistan? It seems to me to be very counterproductive.

That was the Mujaheddin, different group.

[New Frenco Empire]

But Islam is religion?

What im saying is that Islam as a religion is particularly responsible. Not religions in general, just islam.

I mean, that's to be expected from you, considering you're denouncing Islam while advocating a Christian crusade.