Russian airstrikes in Syria

[Jamzmania]

At least the Americans man up to their mistakes and admit them. I'm pretty sure they didn't target the hospital deliberately as supposedly a Taliban encampment was nearby. Though I still haven't heard jack shit from the Russians concerning the MH17 plane crash.

"We're sorry about bombing you. Here, we'll send in soldiers to protect you" *later on we hear that the whole village was slaughtered by US soldiers because "hunting terruriztz"*

Still waiting for that "proof" that Russia itself launched a missile at the plane.
Also:

They say the "most plausible explanation" for the shooting down of the plane was that rebels mistook it for another aircraft.

And then they shot it down using missile systems given to them by Russia.

[Uxupox]

What? Foisted by the US on Russia? Didn't know that the US dictated the Russian interior ministry. Also can I get a citation on how exactly did the US install a government in Georgia.

That's because 'Murica controls the world. *nod*

How can he bring up a citation if the action in question never happened?

At least the Americans man up to their mistakes and admit them. I'm pretty sure they didn't target the hospital deliberately as supposedly a Taliban encampment was nearby. Though I still haven't heard jack shit from the Russians concerning the MH17 plane crash.

"We're sorry about bombing you. Here, we'll send in soldiers to protect you" *later on we hear that the whole village was slaughtered by US soldiers because "hunting terruriztz"*

Still waiting for that "proof" that Russia itself launched a missile at the plane.
Also:

They say the "most plausible explanation" for the shooting down of the plane was that rebels mistook it for another aircraft.

It might be mere speculation but I wonder why did Russia veto the international tribunal.

[New Werpland]

Actually, the US provoked Russia by installing a government in Georgia against the wishes of the Georgian people

I wonder what the whole Rose Revolution shtick was about then? The Georgians must have been bribed by usaid to elect a leader they didn't want several times, or perhaps he was popular?

then supplying weapons to this government for the sole purpose of a military assault against Russia and its allies.

Oh sure, the Georgian military definitely made Medvedev lose sleep at night. Who knows what they could have been capable of.

[Chossudovsky]

Wikipedia's anti-Russian bias, much like the anti-Russian bias prevalent in Western media, does not run both ways but is in fact a part of a massive effort by government and business to create a false impression in the minds of people living in the west about the motives of the Russian state. In South Ossetia, in Ukraine and in Syria the Russian government's sole motive is the protection of minorities faced with extermination by Western puppets - whether illegitimate US installed regimes in Georgia and Ukraine, or US created terrorist groups like ISIS and al-Nusra - and yet to hear the media report on these missions you would think that Russia is somehow the aggressor.



Actually, the US provoked Russia by installing a government in Georgia against the wishes of the Georgian people then supplying weapons to this government for the sole purpose of a military assault against Russia and its allies.

As for the demographics, you are a bit late. The Russian government has already fixed the harm caused by the leaders foisted on Russia in the 1990s by the US.

What? Foisted by the US on Russia? Didn't know that the US dictated the Russian interior ministry. Also can I get a citation on how exactly did the US install a government in Georgia.

Yeltsin and his cronies acceded to power in Russia through propaganda and election rigging assisted by the US and its allies for the purpose of allowing American corporations to steal Russian wealth.

The US installed a government in Georgia through the so called Rose Revolution where funds were channeled through organisations like USAID and the Soros Foundation that have experience in these matters to destabilize the existing government and replace it with a government which would do the US's bidding.

[Dragonia Re Xzua]

"We're sorry about bombing you. Here, we'll send in soldiers to protect you" *later on we hear that the whole village was slaughtered by US soldiers because "hunting terruriztz"*

Still waiting for that "proof" that Russia itself launched a missile at the plane.
Also:

And then they shot it down using missile systems given to them by Russia.

I like how people who still linger on the MH17 issue can't bring up a reasonable argument that Russia itself shot the plane down other than the old "death by proxy" statement. Russia would have nothing to gain if they shot down the plane, yet we have nutjobs basically saying they would have something to gain. Gain what? Attention? That's North Korea's thing.

[New Werpland]

I find it funny that everyone jumps on the "ebul Russians" bandwagon, ignoring the recent U.S. airstrike that struck a hospital, killing several Doctors Without Borders workers, among others. Last time I checked, Russia wasn't targeting hospitals in their airstrikes.

We seem to be forgetting something.

[Chossudovsky]

Actually, the US provoked Russia by installing a government in Georgia against the wishes of the Georgian people

I wonder what the whole Rose Revolution shtick was about then? The Georgians must have been bribed by usaid to elect a leader they didn't want several times, or perhaps he was popular?

then supplying weapons to this government for the sole purpose of a military assault against Russia and its allies.

Oh sure, the Georgian military definitely made Medvedev lose sleep at night. Who knows what they could have been capable of.

Obviously Saakashvili was popular, who wouldn't like a man who stole vast amounts of money from the country, sold it out to Western corporations and sought to commit genocide in Ossetia and subsequently was crushed over it in a war with Russia. That must be why he was elected, not because the vast funds put at his disposal by the US were used to crush the opposition and rig elections

The US underestimated Russia's willingness to fight when minorities are threatened with extermination as they continue to do in Ukraine and Syria.

[Dragonia Re Xzua]

I find it funny that everyone jumps on the "ebul Russians" bandwagon, ignoring the recent U.S. airstrike that struck a hospital, killing several Doctors Without Borders workers, among others. Last time I checked, Russia wasn't targeting hospitals in their airstrikes.

We seem to be forgetting something.

On the topic of war crimes, you evidently forgot something as well. Oh, right. America and our allies are so pure that we are incapable of committing war crimes, that's right.

[Chossudovsky]

And then they shot it down using missile systems given to them by Russia.

I like how people who still linger on the MH17 issue can't bring up a reasonable argument that Russia itself shot the plane down other than the old "death by proxy" statement. Russia would have nothing to gain if they shot down the plane, yet we have nutjobs basically saying they would have something to gain. Gain what? Attention? That's North Korea's thing.

Whereas Ukraine would have plenty to gain if they shot down the plane and then manipulated the media account to make it appear that Russia or the freedom fighters they support were responsible.

[Uxupox]

I like how people who still linger on the MH17 issue can't bring up a reasonable argument that Russia itself shot the plane down other than the old "death by proxy" statement. Russia would have nothing to gain if they shot down the plane, yet we have nutjobs basically saying they would have something to gain. Gain what? Attention? That's North Korea's thing.

Whereas Ukraine would have plenty to gain if they shot down the plane and then manipulated the media account to make it appear that Russia or the freedom fighters they support were responsible.

Jesus fucking Christ. The Ukraine government was calling it to be investigated yet that proposal was shot down in the UN by the Russian veto. Kind of stupid for the Ukrainians to shoot down the missiles then be calling for it to be investigated don;t you think? If they did shoot it down they would have either deny a plane ever being shot down or something similar.

[The balkens]

We seem to be forgetting something.

On the topic of war crimes, you evidently forgot something as well. Oh, right. America and our allies are so pure that we are incapable of committing war crimes, that's right.

Yes and from the start, we just bombed playgrounds, Hospitals and retirement homes.

Truly horrible.

[Uxupox]

We seem to be forgetting something.

On the topic of war crimes, you evidently forgot something as well. Oh, right. America and our allies are so pure that we are incapable of committing war crimes, that's right.

They admit to it unlike Russia who just stomps and disassociates.

[Costa Fierro]

And then they shot it down using missile systems given to them by Russia.

I like how people who still linger on the MH17 issue can't bring up a reasonable argument that Russia itself shot the plane down other than the old "death by proxy" statement. Russia would have nothing to gain if they shot down the plane, yet we have nutjobs basically saying they would have something to gain. Gain what? Attention? That's North Korea's thing.

For fuck's sake. No one said this. It's pretty much confirmed by anyone that knows what they're talking about or isn't a paid Kremlin troll that the rebels shot it down accidentally.

[Socialist Czechia]

All terrorists shall be purged at last.

It's funny though, that westerners dare to call FSA terrorists 'freedom fighters', while kurdish partisans fights turkish genocidal oppressors for decades, and they're called 'terrorists'.

Well, seems legit.

[The balkens]

All terrorists shall be purged at last.

It's funny though, that westerners dare to call FSA terrorists 'freedom fighters', while kurdish partisans fights turkish genocidal oppressors for decades, and they're called 'terrorists'.

Well, seems legit.

Right..........

When did we call them Terrorists?

[Chossudovsky]

Whereas Ukraine would have plenty to gain if they shot down the plane and then manipulated the media account to make it appear that Russia or the freedom fighters they support were responsible.

Jesus fucking Christ. The Ukraine government was calling it to be investigated yet that proposal was shot down in the UN by the Russian veto. Kind of stupid for the Ukrainians to shoot down the missiles then be calling for it to be investigated don;t you think? If they did shoot it down they would have either deny a plane ever being shot down or something similar.

They shot it down on purpose so that the rebels could be blamed for it. Russia vetoed the investigation because it would have been controlled by the same people responsible for shooting it down, Ukraine and NATO, and used to create more anti-rebel propaganda rather than exposing the truth.

[The balkens]

Jesus fucking Christ. The Ukraine government was calling it to be investigated yet that proposal was shot down in the UN by the Russian veto. Kind of stupid for the Ukrainians to shoot down the missiles then be calling for it to be investigated don;t you think? If they did shoot it down they would have either deny a plane ever being shot down or something similar.

They shot it down on purpose so that the rebels could be blamed for it. Russia vetoed the investigation because it would have been controlled by the same people responsible for shooting it down, Ukraine and NATO, and used to create more anti-rebel propaganda rather than exposing the truth.

Does Putin Pay by the word or something?

[Imperializt Russia]

What? Foisted by the US on Russia? Didn't know that the US dictated the Russian interior ministry. Also can I get a citation on how exactly did the US install a government in Georgia.

Yeltsin and his cronies acceded to power in Russia through propaganda and election rigging assisted by the US and its allies for the purpose of allowing American corporations to steal Russian wealth.

The US installed a government in Georgia through the so called Rose Revolution where funds were channeled through organisations like USAID and the Soros Foundation that have experience in these matters to destabilize the existing government and replace it with a government which would do the US's bidding.

Considering that strategic Russian economic assets are pretty securely held by Putin's cronies, I can only assume the Americans did a piss-poor job of it.

[Socialist Czechia]

All terrorists shall be purged at last.

It's funny though, that westerners dare to call FSA terrorists 'freedom fighters', while kurdish partisans fights turkish genocidal oppressors for decades, and they're called 'terrorists'.

Well, seems legit.

Right..........

When did we call them Terrorists?

Both EU and NATO countries officially recognizes turkish claim, that PKK are terrorists It's disgusting, comparable to recognition of Italian conquest of Abyssinia in 1930s.
In both cases, so called democracies tries to be friends with filthy inhumane regime, while they dare to condemn other, even much less harsh regimes.

While for example India, China, Russia, Switzerland or Egypt sees PKK as freedom fighters or at least legitimate political opposition.

[Uxupox]

Jesus fucking Christ. The Ukraine government was calling it to be investigated yet that proposal was shot down in the UN by the Russian veto. Kind of stupid for the Ukrainians to shoot down the missiles then be calling for it to be investigated don;t you think? If they did shoot it down they would have either deny a plane ever being shot down or something similar.

They shot it down on purpose so that the rebels could be blamed for it. Russia vetoed the investigation because it would have been controlled by the same people responsible for shooting it down, Ukraine and NATO, and used to create more anti-rebel propaganda rather than exposing the truth.

Yea they obviously shot it down on purpose. .

Did you see where it was shot down? The nearest pro-government controlled territory is at least 500 miles away. So unless the Ukrainians have a new surface-to-air ssytem that surpasses even the new anti-air missiles employed by the United States than I'm pretty sure it didn't happen.

[The balkens]

Right..........

When did we call them Terrorists?

Both EU and NATO countries officially recognizes turkish claim, that PKK are terrorists It's disgusting, comparable to recognition of Italian conquest of Abyssinia in 1930s.
In both cases, so called democracies tries to be friends with filthy inhumane regime, while they dare to condemn other, even much less harsh regimes.

While for example India, China, Russia, Switzerland or Egypt sees PKK as freedom fighters or at least legitimate political opposition.

Its not like Turkey is part of Nato or anything.

[Risottia]

"We're sorry about bombing you. Here, we'll send in soldiers to protect you" *later on we hear that the whole village was slaughtered by US soldiers because "hunting terruriztz"*

Still waiting for that "proof" that Russia itself launched a missile at the plane.
Also:

And then they shot it down using missile systems given to them by Russia.

Because it's not like Ukraine has ever operated Buk missiles, or like the Ukrainian armed forces have lost a lot of weapons to the pro-Russian rebels during the civil war. Nah.

[Geilinor]

And then they shot it down using missile systems given to them by Russia.

Because it's not like Ukraine has ever operated Buk missiles, or like the Ukrainian armed forces have lost a lot of weapons to the pro-Russian rebels during the civil war. Nah.

The plane was out of Ukrainian-controlled territory, making it more likely that the rebels shot the plane down.

[Chossudovsky]

Yeltsin and his cronies acceded to power in Russia through propaganda and election rigging assisted by the US and its allies for the purpose of allowing American corporations to steal Russian wealth.

The US installed a government in Georgia through the so called Rose Revolution where funds were channeled through organisations like USAID and the Soros Foundation that have experience in these matters to destabilize the existing government and replace it with a government which would do the US's bidding.

Considering that strategic Russian economic assets are pretty securely held by Putin's cronies, I can only assume the Americans did a piss-poor job of it.

They did do a poor job of it, the thieves of the 90s have been systematically driven from power and the economic assets of Russia are now managed in such a way as to benefit the people of that country.

They shot it down on purpose so that the rebels could be blamed for it. Russia vetoed the investigation because it would have been controlled by the same people responsible for shooting it down, Ukraine and NATO, and used to create more anti-rebel propaganda rather than exposing the truth.

Yea they obviously shot it down on purpose. .

Did you see where it was shot down? The nearest pro-government controlled territory is at least 500 miles away. So unless the Ukrainians have a new surface-to-air ssytem that surpasses even the new anti-air missiles employed by the United States than I'm pretty sure it didn't happen.

Actually, it was very close to the conflict zone and anyway, it was most likely a Ukrainian air force jet that shot it down.

[Geilinor]

Actually, it was very close to the conflict zone and anyway, it was most likely a Ukrainian air force jet that shot it down.

You must be kidding me.

You're deliberately lying at this point.

We know that a Buk rocket launcher shot it down, not a jet.