Russian airstrikes in Syria

[New Werpland]

Ha. I wish.

You must be confusing them with the Kurdish forces, the YPG (and their allies inside Turkey, the PKK). The YPG and PKK are indeed Marxist, but they have neither the strength not the desire to move beyond the majority-Kurdish areas of Syria, so Assad is still the only hope to stop ISIS and al-Nusra.

The PKK is not Marxist, to my knowledge.

Originally they were, though their leader's supposedly become an Anarchist whilst in jail(and so have they).

[Cartagine]

Ofcourse, lets call every single foreign soldier on any soil an invasion...
Remember the US/NATO invasion of Eastern-Europe? http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/14/world/europe/us-poised-to-put-heavy-weaponry-in-east-europe.html?_r=0
Or the NATO invasion of Turkey? http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_92140.htm
Becouse ofcourse according to that logic of yours these sorts of things would also fall under invasions *nods*

Not saying taht the coup wasn't supported and acted out by Russians, just saying such things really don't count as an invasion in any form or shape.

Are currently blowing shit up in turkey? or in E.E?

Oh, did that suddenly matter?
And i'm pretty sure they're throwing grenades while training so basicly yes they are.

[Occupied Deutschland]

This technicality is so threadbare it's stupid.
The Soviets invaded Afghanistan to carry out a coup, and then the leaders the Soviets were okay with after the coup said they'd requested Soviet assistance.

Of course, lets call every single foreign soldier on any soil an invasion...

Nah, lets restrict it to those not requested by the host nation who participate in coups of the 'host' nation's government.

Remember the US/NATO invasion of Eastern-Europe? http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/14/world/europe/us-poised-to-put-heavy-weaponry-in-east-europe.html?_r=0
Or the NATO invasion of Turkey? http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_92140.htm

Are those foreign soldiers not requested by the host government and carrying out coups against those country's governments?

Becouse ofcourse according to that logic of yours these sorts of things would also fall under invasions *nods*

No, only in the distorted perception of reality you seem to posses.

Not saying taht the coup wasn't supported and acted out by Russians, just saying such things really don't count as an invasion in any form or shape.

Then you're wrong. Incorrect. No longer speaking the truth.

Afghanistan before "freedom fighters" drove out the USSR:

Afghanistan after "freedom fighters" drove out the USSR:

Suddenly neocolonialism looks like a pretty swell answer, doesn't it?

Heck, we don't even need neocolonialism.
Bring back the king!
This is not actually an endorsement of the King of Afghanistan or his family, but an ironic echo of Constantinopolis shitty argument

[Novsvacro]

The PKK is not Marxist, to my knowledge.

Originally they were, though their leader's supposedly become an Anarchist whilst in jail.

Eh, anarchist is not what I heard.

I think he's a Communalist.

[New Werpland]

Originally they were, though their leader's supposedly become an Anarchist whilst in jail.

Eh, anarchist is not what I heard.

I think he's a Communalist.

Same thing isn't it?

[Uxupox]

Are currently blowing shit up in turkey? or in E.E?

Oh, did that suddenly matter?
And i'm pretty sure they're throwing grenades while training so basicly yes they are.

What?

[Novsvacro]

Eh, anarchist is not what I heard.

I think he's a Communalist.

Same thing isn't it?

Communalists are more moderate, I suppose. More of a synthesis of Marxism and anarchism.

[New Werpland]

Same thing isn't it?

Communalists are more moderate, I suppose. More of a synthesis of Marxism and anarchism.

Good to know.

[Olerand]

Of course, lets call every single foreign soldier on any soil an invasion...

Nah, lets restrict it to those not requested by the host nation who participate in coups of the 'host' nation's government.

Remember the US/NATO invasion of Eastern-Europe? http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/14/world/europe/us-poised-to-put-heavy-weaponry-in-east-europe.html?_r=0
Or the NATO invasion of Turkey? http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_92140.htm

Are those foreign soldiers not requested by the host government and carrying out coups against those country's governments?

Becouse ofcourse according to that logic of yours these sorts of things would also fall under invasions *nods*

No, only in the distorted perception of reality you seem to posses.

Not saying taht the coup wasn't supported and acted out by Russians, just saying such things really don't count as an invasion in any form or shape.

Then you're wrong. Incorrect. No longer speaking the truth.

Suddenly neocolonialism looks like a pretty swell answer, doesn't it?

Heck, we don't even need neocolonialism.
Bring back the king!
This is not actually an endorsement of the King of Afghanistan or his family, but an ironic echo of Constantinopolis shitty argument

Why do you not "endorse the king"? The Muslim world was developing so much faster, and better during the 1950s and 60s. I doubt the Afghans prefer what they are undergoing now to what they had in the 1960s.

[Kazarogkai]

Same thing isn't it?

Communalists are more moderate, I suppose. More of a synthesis of Marxism and anarchism.

Most Communalists I know can be pretty authoritarian in some cases, the only thing they really want is a very localized/decentralized government that has a strong focus on the collective good of society even at the expense of the individual in some cases. Similar to distributists in some ways.

[Cartagine]

Of course, lets call every single foreign soldier on any soil an invasion...

Nah, lets restrict it to those not requested by the host nation who participate in coups of the 'host' nation's government.

Remember the US/NATO invasion of Eastern-Europe? http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/14/world/europe/us-poised-to-put-heavy-weaponry-in-east-europe.html?_r=0
Or the NATO invasion of Turkey? http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_92140.htm

Are those foreign soldiers not requested by the host government and carrying out coups against those country's governments?

Becouse ofcourse according to that logic of yours these sorts of things would also fall under invasions *nods*

No, only in the distorted perception of reality you seem to posses.

Not saying taht the coup wasn't supported and acted out by Russians, just saying such things really don't count as an invasion in any form or shape.

Then you're wrong. Incorrect. No longer speaking the truth.

Suddenly neocolonialism looks like a pretty swell answer, doesn't it?

Heck, we don't even need neocolonialism.
Bring back the king!
This is not actually an endorsement of the King of Afghanistan or his family, but an ironic echo of Constantinopolis shitty argument

Ah ofcourse, an invasion is only an invasion when it suits you. Good to know.

[New Werpland]

Communalists are more moderate, I suppose. More of a synthesis of Marxism and anarchism.

Most Communalists I know can be pretty authoritarian in some cases, the only thing they really want is a very localized/decentralized government that has a strong focus on the collective good of society even at the expense of the individual in some cases. Similar to distributists in some ways.

That doesn't sound very different from the many indistinguishable forms of Anarchism.

[Occupied Deutschland]

Nah, lets restrict it to those not requested by the host nation who participate in coups of the 'host' nation's government.

Are those foreign soldiers not requested by the host government and carrying out coups against those country's governments?

No, only in the distorted perception of reality you seem to posses.

Then you're wrong. Incorrect. No longer speaking the truth.


Heck, we don't even need neocolonialism.
Bring back the king!
This is not actually an endorsement of the King of Afghanistan or his family, but an ironic echo of Constantinopolis shitty argument

Ah ofcourse, an invasion is only an invasion when it suits you. Good to know.

No one can try to make a point this obtuse and ridiculous without being a parody.
I salute you, sir, and may you carry on mocking stupid justifications by highlighting how inherently contradictory they are.

[Uxupox]

Nah, lets restrict it to those not requested by the host nation who participate in coups of the 'host' nation's government.

Are those foreign soldiers not requested by the host government and carrying out coups against those country's governments?

No, only in the distorted perception of reality you seem to posses.

Then you're wrong. Incorrect. No longer speaking the truth.


Heck, we don't even need neocolonialism.
Bring back the king!
This is not actually an endorsement of the King of Afghanistan or his family, but an ironic echo of Constantinopolis shitty argument

Ah ofcourse, an invasion is only an invasion when it suits you. Good to know.

I'm pretty sure NATO is not invading Turkey at all since in fact Turkey is part a member of NATO. I'm pretty sure when you "intervene" in a country and decide to kill the president and mount a coup in it's government it's not an intervention but an invasion.

[Kazarogkai]

Most Communalists I know can be pretty authoritarian in some cases, the only thing they really want is a very localized/decentralized government that has a strong focus on the collective good of society even at the expense of the individual in some cases. Similar to distributists in some ways.

That doesn't sound very different from the many indistinguishable forms of Anarchism.

Considering the fact that anarchism is extreme left-wing Libertarianism for the most part they typically are, when it comes to individual and political rights, quite freedom loving/liberal though in terms of economics they are pretty communal. While Communalist are on the center-left more or less, Anarchists are pretty Far-Left(usually).

[Costa Fierro]

Because there will always be Russophobia that needs to be addressed head on.

Ah, yes. The buzzword that keeps being used for criticisms of Russian actions internationally.

[Cartagine]

Ah ofcourse, an invasion is only an invasion when it suits you. Good to know.

I'm pretty sure NATO is not invading Turkey at all since in fact Turkey is part a member of NATO. I'm pretty sure when you "intervene" in a country and decide to kill the president and mount a coup in it's government it's not an intervention but an invasion.

They intervened after the coup.
The argument is wether or not the coup was an invasion, which i say it wasn't as in such case hundreds of events could be considered invasions.

[The United Colonies of Earth]

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=z4PF1SFiMPjQ.kFa_qMMdFl48

This seems like a frequently updated interactive map of RuAf strikes in Syria, should be intresting.

Edit: Oh and that VDV song never gets old...but its from like 2006? Idk really!

I didn't understand a word that guy said, but it sounded and looked pretty cool.
Anyway, that map looks (if it's legit) like Putin's air force is providing cover for a push from the coast for Assad's troops.

[Calimera II]

Nope, Russia intervened.
Yes there's a difference between the two, if the USSR would actually invade Afghanistan they would have done things quiet differently.

So uh Russia intervened in Georgia?

Even if you were to be right, Wikipedia is the worst source you could possibly use. Very biased. The Spanish version says something else than the English, Dutch and Russian version.

[Cartagine]

Ah ofcourse, an invasion is only an invasion when it suits you. Good to know.

No one can try to make a point this obtuse and ridiculous without being a parody.
I salute you, sir, and may you carry on mocking stupid justifications by highlighting how inherently contradictory they are.

The only contradictory here are your claims, but hey, just carry on making stupid justifications, i won't care.

[Esternial]

Ooh, the struggle of juggling your illegal arms sales and the continued existence one of your closest allies.

Poor Russia.

[New Werpland]

So uh Russia intervened in Georgia?

Even if you were to be right, Wikipedia is the worst source you could possibly use. Very biased. The Spanish version says something else than the English, Dutch and Russian version.

Biased as in less like what rt says?

[The United Colonies of Earth]

Ooh, the struggle of juggling your illegal arms sales and the continued existence one of your closest allies.

Poor Russia.

I have two questions. I'm asking you because I trust you to be truthful.
1. Russia is illegally selling arms? How?
2. Why, besides obviously wanting to keep more dictators in power, does Putin support Assad?

[The balkens]

Ooh, the struggle of juggling your illegal arms sales and the continued existence one of your closest allies.

Poor Russia.

I have two questions. I'm asking you because I trust you to be truthful.
1. Russia is illegally selling arms? How?
2. Why, besides obviously wanting to keep more dictators in power, does Putin support Assad?

Warm water port.

[The United Colonies of Earth]

I have two questions. I'm asking you because I trust you to be truthful.
1. Russia is illegally selling arms? How?
2. Why, besides obviously wanting to keep more dictators in power, does Putin support Assad?

Warm water port.

They need one in the bloody Middle East?
Huh...well, they're supposed to be a world power, so Tartus is a legit start.