Russian airstrikes in Syria

[San Verucia]

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[The balkens]

Somehow I feel this thread is missing something... hmmm...

Oh yes! A THEME SONG!

Admit it: It's so bad it's good. They did miss a golden opportunity to have Putin ride in on a bear at the end, though. A flying bear. Yeah.

I'll show myself out now.

Please do.

[Shazbotdom]

These Arabs and their Islamic religion are dangerous to humanity. We should be supporting these authoritarian dictatorships because they can't democratically rule themselves and the alternative is Islamic government.

The more we get involved and stir the pot, we only instigate ethnic and religious sectarianism that fans and encourages extremism.

We should drop support for rebels and try to gain influence with Assad. And we need a holy Christian crusade to encourage the locals to adopt Christianity to end the vast majority of terrorism once and for all.

This.

You do realize that he was warned for this very post, right?

[Rangila]

Russia is saving Europe and Middle East from American destruction. ISIS was created by the "moderate Syrian opposition" which was subsidosed by America. Of course the Americans tried to denied that the "moderate opposition" was in fact bloodthisty islamists that behead infidels. American imperialism is destroying the world.

Putin's done a good job on you, hasn't he?

[Conserative Morality]

Somehow I feel this thread is missing something... hmmm...

Oh yes! A THEME SONG!

Admit it: It's so bad it's good. They did miss a golden opportunity to have Putin ride in on a bear at the end, though. A flying bear. Yeah.

I'll show myself out now.

Personally, I was thinking this

[Taruda]

This.

You do realize that he was warned for this very post, right?

I did not saw this. Yes, I apologize.

[New Werpland]

Russia is saving Europe and Middle East from American destruction. ISIS was created by the "moderate Syrian opposition" which was subsidosed by America. Of course the Americans tried to denied that the "moderate opposition" was in fact bloodthisty islamists that behead infidels. American imperialism is destroying the world.

Putin's done a good job on you, hasn't he?

Who doesn't love money soaked kleptocrats?

[Taruda]

Russia is saving Europe and Middle East from American destruction. ISIS was created by the "moderate Syrian opposition" which was subsidosed by America. Of course the Americans tried to denied that the "moderate opposition" was in fact bloodthisty islamists that behead infidels. American imperialism is destroying the world.

Putin's done a good job on you, hasn't he?

What are you suggesting?

[Conserative Morality]

Who doesn't love money soaked kleptocrats?

I'm sure you can still find Cheney supporters.

[Shazbotdom]

You do realize that he was warned for this very post, right?

I did not saw this. Yes, I apologize.

I would also love to see proof of any claims that the US is supplying arms to/training ISIS. Because I keep seeing claims, yet none of you have even attempted to give any proof to show this.

[Rangila]

Putin's done a good job on you, hasn't he?

What are you suggesting?

That you genuinely believe what you've said.

Also, no, it isn't trolling.

[The balkens]

Who doesn't love money soaked kleptocrats?

I'm sure you can still find Cheney supporters.

You mean Darth?

[Kazarogkai]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Syrian_Army

Can you explain how they can be both Radical Islamist and Marxist at the same time? Pretty sure they are incompatible with each other.

Christian communism/socialism is a thing I am pretty sure you can theoretically have Islamic Communism. That or they are both just one of army factions within the FSA working together to take down Assad.

[Rio Cana]

Somehow I feel this thread is missing something... hmmm...

Oh yes! A THEME SONG!

Admit it: It's so bad it's good. They did miss a golden opportunity to have Putin ride in on a bear at the end, though. A flying bear. Yeah.

I'll show myself out now.

Personally, I was thinking this

I do not think so.

More Traditional Russian theme and not modern or cartoon songs.
Something like this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtPDrICRxVs

For those that prefer this version with more artillery - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXOjxrCRaGQ

[Palakistan]

Russia is saving Europe and Middle East from American destruction. ISIS was created by the "moderate Syrian opposition" which was subsidosed by America. Of course the Americans tried to denied that the "moderate opposition" was in fact bloodthisty islamists that behead infidels. American imperialism is destroying the world.

I find it ironic you say that with a Ukrainian flag though.

That's a knee slapper.

[Chossudovsky]

So, unlike most here, I've actually seen a part of the strategy that's out on RuNet. I'll be surprised if Russia doesn't stabilize Syria within a year. Good news for NSG - Kurds will finally stop being fucked over. Unless they're in Turkey.

Then you will be surprised. USA has conducted thousands of air strikes so far meanwhile Russia did it's first (and not even against ISIS). Russia needs to bring massive amounts of ground troops to stabilize Syria and I doubt they will do that.

Not to mention that Russia doesn't even have as good air strike capabilities as USA.

If you can't handle the land, don't fly your Black Hawks over it. Also, I never said that it was all Clinton's fault.




We shall see. I'm currently laughing at that post. A year from now it'll be most of NSG.

Year on you will see that your predictions proved to be wrong.

The difference being that the US isn't actually trying to stop ISIS, they just act like they are to cover for the fact that having ISIS control a large part of Syria and Iraq is what the US government wants. Russia will be far more effective because Russia actually intends to stop ISIS.

And whether Russia's air strikes so far have been directed against ISIS or any of the other proxies serving Western interests in Syria is irrelevant, all of them will have to be confronted and defeated to restore peace in Syria.

So, unlike most here, I've actually seen a part of the strategy that's out on RuNet. I'll be surprised if Russia doesn't stabilize Syria within a year. Good news for NSG - Kurds will finally stop being fucked over. Unless they're in Turkey.

if the west cant solve this problem, what makes you think that the Russian military can?

All it is a simple walk through Turkey and up the Caucasus and there you are, Russia. Far simpler then risking flying to the US, And all it takes is for some ISIS Fuckwit top dog to call a Fatwa on Russia to make it happen.

Russia actually wants to stop ISIS, unlike the west. The scenario you describe, with terrorists moving through unimpeded through the territories destabilized by the US across the Middle East and North Africa to attack Russia via the Caucasus has been the US's overall goal in region for 15 years now. The only way to prevent this from happening is to restore order to places like Syria, which is exactly what Russia will do.

Usually in the winner's chair.

I mean, that wasn't really where Russia ended up after the last time they tried to support an allied regime in the cultural Middle East against religious rebels that may or may not have had Western support...

A war which was lost due to individuals at the top of the Soviet government betraying the military which was perfectly capable of winning that war. This is unlikely to repeat itself with the current leadership.

[The Qeiiam Star Cluster]

The difference being that the US isn't actually trying to stop ISIS, they just act like they are to cover for the fact that having ISIS control a large part of Syria and Iraq is what the US government wants.

Wut?

Russia actually wants to stop ISIS, unlike the west. The scenario you describe, with terrorists moving through unimpeded through the territories destabilized by the US across the Middle East and North Africa to attack Russia via the Caucasus has been the US's overall goal in region for 15 years now. The only way to prevent this from happening is to restore order to places like Syria, which is exactly what Russia will do.

Ah yes, because obviously Islamic terrorists rising up around the Middle East is only because of a dastardly American plot to attack Glorious Mother Russia.
Everything revolves around Russia, doesn't it?

[Olerand]

I did not saw this. Yes, I apologize.

I would also love to see proof of any claims that the US is supplying arms to/training ISIS. Because I keep seeing claims, yet none of you have even attempted to give any proof to show this.

Well, inadvertently, they sure have. To Al-Qaeda too.

[New Frenco Empire]

A war which was lost due to individuals at the top of the Soviet government betraying the military which was perfectly capable of winning that war. This is unlikely to repeat itself with the current leadership.

Oh I'm sure that'll be the case.

The difference being that the US isn't actually trying to stop ISIS, they just act like they are to cover for the fact that having ISIS control a large part of Syria and Iraq is what the US government wants.

Ah yes, because obviously Islamic terrorists rising up around the Middle East is only because of a dastardly American plot to attack Glorious Mother Russia.
Everything revolves around Russia, doesn't it?

WEST HATES RUSSIA! WEST IS TRAINING ISIS TO SPREAD HOMOSEX TO GLORIOUS MOTHER RUSSIA! ISIS QUESTION GLORIOUS DADDY PUTIN'S SEXUALITY! RUSSIA BIG HERO! RUSSIA REMOVE KEBAB! WEST IS WEAK BABY-MAN HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

[Shazbotdom]

I would also love to see proof of any claims that the US is supplying arms to/training ISIS. Because I keep seeing claims, yet none of you have even attempted to give any proof to show this.

Well, inadvertently, they sure have. To Al-Qaeda too.

I'm taking about currently, not back in the 80's when we assisted the freedom fighters in Afghanistan against the USSR. Current news showing that we are directly sending supplies and trainers to ISIS as has been stated.

[Olerand]

Well, inadvertently, they sure have. To Al-Qaeda too.

I'm taking about currently, not back in the 80's when we assisted the freedom fighters in Afghanistan against the USSR. Current news showing that we are directly sending supplies and trainers to ISIS as has been stated.

No currently. In its escape from the north, the Iraqi army left a lot of nifty American issued gadgets for the Islamic State as a parting gift.

And those groups America is training right now, or was, as the program is currently on hold, have given their weapons to Al-Nusra as well, either in return for safe passage, or simply because Al-Nusra forcibly took them.

This is all very contemporary news, I am sure it was reported on in the Anglo-Saxon media.

[Calimera II]

Oh well, at least ISIS suffers...

[Cartagine]

I fully support Russia, together with Iran they are the only nations that operate legally in Syria and they are the only nations that actually want to see stability and security in the region.

[Constantinopolis]

back in the 80's when we assisted the freedom fighters in Afghanistan against the USSR.

Afghanistan before "freedom fighters" drove out the USSR:

Afghanistan after "freedom fighters" drove out the USSR:

[The balkens]

back in the 80's when we assisted the freedom fighters in Afghanistan against the USSR.

Afghanistan before "freedom fighters" drove out the USSR:

Afghanistan after "freedom fighters" drove out the USSR:

Its not like Afghanistan fell into civil war between the Taliban and the ANA.

But what do i know? Im just a imperialist Capitalist! Therefor i suck the life out of nations like as if it were some shitty vampire Fanfic!