Russian airstrikes in Syria

[Kaitjan]

Until a U.S airman is shot down and executed because of one.

Yes, cause that's a likely scenario.

Why not? Nato and US pilots are actively conducting airstrikes against rebels such as ISIS. Do you think they will care if the jet dropping bombs on them is operated by a Russian or US pilot? They'll do their best to shoot it down anyway.

[Archegnum]

I feel like the RAF is in danger of accidentally attacking the Russians or vice-versa. Oh, and I suppose 'Murica as well. But we Brits have bases on Cyprus, so that, like, swings this non-argument in my favour, right?

[Paddy O Fernature]

Yes, cause that's a likely scenario.

Why not? Nato and US pilots are actively conducting airstrikes against rebels such as ISIS. Do you think they will care if the jet dropping bombs on them is operated by a Russian or US pilot? They'll do their best to shoot it down anyway.

They can try all they want, doesn't mean they will succeed. US has a pretty solid track record in that department.

[Kaitjan]

Why not? Nato and US pilots are actively conducting airstrikes against rebels such as ISIS. Do you think they will care if the jet dropping bombs on them is operated by a Russian or US pilot? They'll do their best to shoot it down anyway.

They can try all they want, doesn't mean they will succeed. US has a pretty solid track record in that department.

So? The Russians won't exactly be sending babies to operate their jets. And just because you claim that the US has a good track record, that doesn't mean that ISIS won't be able to at some point shoot down US pilots if given the proper equipment.

[Archegnum]

Why not? Nato and US pilots are actively conducting airstrikes against rebels such as ISIS. Do you think they will care if the jet dropping bombs on them is operated by a Russian or US pilot? They'll do their best to shoot it down anyway.

By the way, for all its faults, I admire your government's attempts to do away with American hegemony. Not all of us Brits are happy with the overbearing, frequently warmongering United States that directly caused the collapse of our Empire being the world superpower. Good luck to Putin on that front, though I support him in basically no other respect.

[Rio Cana]

So how does the Turkish government currently feel about all this. They were really against Assad , more against Assad then those other groups. I do not think they are happy about this. Kurds and Syria they can push around but not Russia.

This on that - http://www.voanews.com/content/turkey-a ... 74014.html

Found this article on why some think Russia will finally do something to solve this Syrian problem. - http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/09/18 ... ry-buildup


A US senator was today blaming Assad for creating the ISIS problem in Syria. But how can Assad be blamed if the ISIS problem started in Iraq. In Iraq under the so called US sponsored government.

[The Matthew Islands]

putin stronk

I wonder if the NATO jets and Russian jets will start firing at each other...

[Kelinfort]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/30/opini ... inion&_r=0

Mr. Friedman put it best.

[Conserative Morality]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/30/opinion/thomas-friedman-syria-obama-and-putin.html?ref=opinion&_r=0

Mr. Friedman put it best.

A very interesting analysis.

[Ayamar]

Um. why is this seen as bad? There's nothing wrong with Assad and Russia is doing a good thing by keeping his regime alive.

[Uxupox]

Jesus Christ this is a fucking clusterfuck of epic proportions now (It was back then but with the Russians now actively entering it's a whole another issue). It will take probably more than a generation to sort out the Syrian mess. Hopefully no side in this conflict uses anti-air weaponry to shoot down either NATO or Russian planes or else it will get really messy. Hopefully the Russians bomb the hell out of ISIS.

[Constantinopolis]

Um. why is this seen as bad? There's nothing wrong with Assad and Russia is doing a good thing by keeping his regime alive.

Precisely.

Everyone should be supporting Assad. Putin is absolutely doing the right thing. If only the US wasn't so entangled with its ISIS-supporting allies - Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states - maybe some American air power could actually help in this effort (as opposed to ineffectually buzzing around pretending to help).

[Conserative Morality]

Um. why is this seen as bad? There's nothing wrong with Assad and Russia is doing a good thing by keeping his regime alive.

Precisely.

Everyone should be supporting Assad. Putin is absolutely doing the right thing. If only the US wasn't so entangled with its ISIS-supporting allies - Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states - maybe some American air power could actually help in this effort.

I seem to remember usage of chemical weapons, various war crimes, terror attacks against civilians, barrel bombs, etc etc.

[Valkalan]

For once Russia's actions have managed to please me. Bashar al-Assad is unpleasant, but he is not the madman that Abu-Bakr al-Baghdadi is. Life under Assad is far more palatable than is life under the so-called Islamic State. The US-backed rebel forces could easily be overrun by ISIS should they manage to defeat Assad, therefore it makes no sense to back rebel forces. If Russia wants send its forces in, that spares the lives of American servicemen. Wonderful!

[Constantinopolis]

Precisely.

Everyone should be supporting Assad. Putin is absolutely doing the right thing. If only the US wasn't so entangled with its ISIS-supporting allies - Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states - maybe some American air power could actually help in this effort.

I seem to remember usage of chemical weapons, various war crimes, terror attacks against civilians, barrel bombs, etc etc.

Still a million times better than any of the other forces involved in this conflict. Let's not forget that Assad is the only thing defending the religious minorities from wholesale genocide.

[Ayamar]

Precisely.

Everyone should be supporting Assad. Putin is absolutely doing the right thing. If only the US wasn't so entangled with its ISIS-supporting allies - Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states - maybe some American air power could actually help in this effort.

I seem to remember usage of chemical weapons, various war crimes, terror attacks against civilians, barrel bombs, etc etc.

So what? Assad is the only thing Syria needs. He's a nationalist and not an Islamic Extremist. LONG LIVE ASSAD.

[Grand Britannia]

Why not? Nato and US pilots are actively conducting airstrikes against rebels such as ISIS. Do you think they will care if the jet dropping bombs on them is operated by a Russian or US pilot? They'll do their best to shoot it down anyway.

By the way, for all its faults, I admire your government's attempts to do away with American hegemony. Not all of us Brits are happy with the overbearing, frequently warmongering United States that directly caused the collapse of our Empire being the world superpower. Good luck to Putin on that front, though I support him in basically no other respect.

That edge hurt.

[Uxupox]

Um. why is this seen as bad? There's nothing wrong with Assad and Russia is doing a good thing by keeping his regime alive.

Precisely.

Everyone should be supporting Assad. Putin is absolutely doing the right thing. If only the US wasn't so entangled with its ISIS-supporting allies - Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states - maybe some American air power could actually help in this effort (as opposed to ineffectually buzzing around pretending to help).

I'm sorry but I'm not supporting a man that regularly used chlorine gas, terror attacks against his own populace and is accused of war crimes.

[Tekeristan]

I seem to remember usage of chemical weapons, various war crimes, terror attacks against civilians, barrel bombs, etc etc.

So what? Assad is the only thing Syria needs. He's a nationalist and not an Islamic Extremist. LONG LIVE ASSAD.

Assad is still a huuggee butthead. It's the battle of buttheads.

[Ayamar]

So what? Assad is the only thing Syria needs. He's a nationalist and not an Islamic Extremist. LONG LIVE ASSAD.

Assad is still a huuggee butthead. It's the battle of buttheads.

because that isn't the most immature thing I've seen all day.

[Celibrae]

Finally.

[Uxupox]

I seem to remember usage of chemical weapons, various war crimes, terror attacks against civilians, barrel bombs, etc etc.

So what? Assad is the only thing Syria needs. He's a nationalist and not an Islamic Extremist. LONG LIVE ASSAD.

So if Scotland declared independence and the Prime Minister of the UK said that it was illegal then decided to bomb out the Scottish then it's OK because he is a nationalist?

[Constantinopolis]

I seem to remember usage of chemical weapons, various war crimes, terror attacks against civilians, barrel bombs, etc etc.

So what? Assad is the only thing Syria needs. He's a nationalist and not an Islamic Extremist. LONG LIVE ASSAD.

Long live Assad, long live the Syrian Arab Republic!

ISIS must be defeated by any means necessary. Any. Means. Necessary.

[American Imperial Union]

These Arabs and their Islamic religion are dangerous to humanity. We should be supporting these authoritarian dictatorships because they can't democratically rule themselves and the alternative is Islamic government.

The more we get involved and stir the pot, we only instigate ethnic and religious sectarianism that fans and encourages extremism.

We should drop support for rebels and try to gain influence with Assad. And we need a holy Christian crusade to encourage the locals to adopt Christianity to end the vast majority of terrorism once and for all.

[Ayamar]

So what? Assad is the only thing Syria needs. He's a nationalist and not an Islamic Extremist. LONG LIVE ASSAD.

So if Scotland declared independence and the Prime Minister of the UK said that it was illegal then decided to bomb out the Scottish then it's OK because he is a nationalist?

What. What the fuck does that have to do with anything. Scotland wouldn't be committing war crimes, would they?