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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:52 pm

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Nintendo Landia wrote:If it looked like a bomb to the school and police then why on earth didn't they treat it like a bomb and evacuate the school and call the bomb squad? Why instead did they put it in the principals office, a police car and the police station as they took the boy to those same places? Because they never for one second thought it was actually a bomb.


It was treated as a hoax bomb, not a real one.


If he did not show it to any friends, or even take it out except to show it to his engineering teacher until he was instructed to do so by another teacher, then how can it be considered a hoax bomb? There was no presentation of it as a bomb, no insinuation that it was a bomb, not even any playacting or jokes regarding it. In fact, until the second teacher told him to open the case, nobody in the entire school except for Ahmed and the engineering teacher even knew that it existed. That's a rather singular hoax, one in which you're going out of your way to not fool anyone.

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Postby Keyboard Warriors » Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:30 am

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Postby Jochistan » Wed Sep 23, 2015 4:36 am

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Nintendo Landia wrote:Anyone who thinks a) that all Muslims need to constantly apologise for the actions of other Muslims, b) ignore whenever Muslims do this and c) justify any crime against Muslims is absolutely hateful and selfish and closed-minded.


Realistically, most of the people who call for this have already decided that Islam itself is evil,disgusting etc. and that organisations like IS are perfect embodiments of the religion. What they actually mean when demanding "apologies" is in fact "turn your back on this vile religion".

Which of course is not going to happen.

What's ironic about that viewpoint is that it's the exact same viewpoint of religious fundamentalists.

Anti-Muslim people never see that Irony for some reason. either they don't see it or they find themselves somehow morally above the irony because of their beliefs, (which, again, is how fundamentalists act).

What they see Islam as is also how ISIS, the Wahhabis and other ultraconservatives see Islam. (But obviously, Ultraconservative Muslims aren't disgusted by it).

Both views damn moderate, Liberal, social reformist or Apolitical Muslims to forms of persecution (often by ultraconservatives in the Muslim community)
Making social reform in the Islamic community almost impossible, and letting the violence rage on and on and on.

Unlike fundamentalists, Anti-Muslim people much of the time fully realize that they're doing this, hating all muslims simply because they just can, trying to draw out the violence so they can laugh at it more.
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Jochistan wrote:Unlike fundamentalists, Anti-Muslim people much of the time fully realize that they're doing this, hating all muslims simply because they just can, trying to draw out the violence so they can laugh at it more.


Me, I'll never forgive them for inventing algebra. It may be a cornerstone of the modern world, but it gave me headaches for years. Thanks, Islam! :evil:

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Postby Courlany » Wed Sep 23, 2015 6:46 am

In the media and on this forum they refer to him as Arab-American. Isn't he simply American?

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Courlany wrote:In the media and on this forum they refer to him as Arab-American. Isn't he simply American?

Noooo...only white folks can contract their ethnicity from European-American to just American.
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Postby Courlany » Wed Sep 23, 2015 6:51 am

Cymrea wrote:
Courlany wrote:In the media and on this forum they refer to him as Arab-American. Isn't he simply American?

Noooo...only white folks can contract their ethnicity from European-American to just American.



LOL :lol:

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Postby Neutraligon » Wed Sep 23, 2015 7:02 am

Arngeir wrote:
Nintendo Landia wrote:If it looked like a bomb to the school and police then why on earth didn't they treat it like a bomb and evacuate the school and call the bomb squad? Why instead did they put it in the principals office, a police car and the police station as they took the boy to those same places? Because they never for one second thought it was actually a bomb.


It was treated as a hoax bomb, not a real one.


No they did not for one simple reason, just because one "bomb" is a hoax does not mean there are not other actual bombs in the school. Even a "hoax bomb" is enough for a school evacuation.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:19 am

Courlany wrote:In the media and on this forum they refer to him as Arab-American. Isn't he simply American?

The fact he is ethnically Arabic is significant in this case.
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Postby Courlany » Wed Sep 23, 2015 5:41 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Courlany wrote:In the media and on this forum they refer to him as Arab-American. Isn't he simply American?

The fact he is ethnically Arabic is significant in this case.


The only significance to the story is that an American student was criminalised at an American high school for constructing a scientific device immediately mistaken for a bomb without anyone bothering to find out. Science education in the United States, it really seems, is on a terminal decline or perhaps critical thinking or both.

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Postby Gauthier » Wed Sep 23, 2015 5:50 pm

Courlany wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:The fact he is ethnically Arabic is significant in this case.


The only significance to the story is that an American student was criminalised at an American high school for constructing a scientific device immediately mistaken for a bomb without anyone bothering to find out. Science education in the United States, it really seems, is on a terminal decline or perhaps critical thinking or both.


Except of course his ethnicity strongly inspired suspicions that his clock was in fact a bomb in the English teacher and police.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Wed Sep 23, 2015 6:07 pm

Courlany wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:The fact he is ethnically Arabic is significant in this case.

The only significance to the story is that an American student was criminalised at an American high school for constructing a scientific device immediately mistaken for a bomb without anyone bothering to find out. Science education in the United States, it really seems, is on a terminal decline or perhaps critical thinking or both.

If you can't see the stereotypical connection between an Arabic person and a bomb, you should probably watch half an hour of Fox News.
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Postby Gim » Wed Sep 23, 2015 6:30 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Courlany wrote:The only significance to the story is that an American student was criminalised at an American high school for constructing a scientific device immediately mistaken for a bomb without anyone bothering to find out. Science education in the United States, it really seems, is on a terminal decline or perhaps critical thinking or both.

If you can't see the stereotypical connection between an Arabic person and a bomb, you should probably watch half an hour of Fox News.


Or maybe just Youtube "Arab and bomb".
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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:08 am

West Dixieland wrote:Has anyone heard more about this?

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... s-earlier/

no and I doesn't seem from the article that there is anything more true to hear about it.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:10 am

Gauthier wrote:
Courlany wrote:
The only significance to the story is that an American student was criminalised at an American high school for constructing a scientific device immediately mistaken for a bomb without anyone bothering to find out. Science education in the United States, it really seems, is on a terminal decline or perhaps critical thinking or both.


Except of course his ethnicity strongly inspired suspicions that his clock was in fact a bomb in the English teacher and police.


"Strongly" is not the best way I'd put it.
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Postby Tiomeria » Thu Sep 24, 2015 7:53 am

"It's just a clock bro."

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Postby Seraven » Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:08 am

Courlany wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:The fact he is ethnically Arabic is significant in this case.


The only significance to the story is that an American student was criminalised at an American high school for constructing a scientific device immediately mistaken for a bomb without anyone bothering to find out. Science education in the United States, it really seems, is on a terminal decline or perhaps critical thinking or both.


His family came from Sudan, I believed. So while now his nationality is American, his ethnicity is Arab-American.
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Postby Jochistan » Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:14 am

West Dixieland wrote:Has anyone heard more about this?

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... s-earlier/

She apparently had nothing to do with it. And the source that ends with "jihad commandments in the religions Koran book" is usually a little biased.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:23 am

Jochistan wrote:
West Dixieland wrote:Has anyone heard more about this?

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... s-earlier/

She apparently had nothing to do with it. And the source that ends with "jihad commandments in the religions Koran book" is usually a little biased.


It's Breitbart. It is surprising that Breitbart wasn't spinning the story to suggest that the sister either admitted to committing a bomb scare or that Ahmed had tried one that year.
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Postby Jamzmania » Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:25 am

Jochistan wrote:
West Dixieland wrote:Has anyone heard more about this?

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... s-earlier/

She apparently had nothing to do with it. And the source that ends with "jihad commandments in the religions Koran book" is usually a little biased.

Are you suggesting that Mulims haven't killed thousands in the name of jihad from the Koran?
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Postby TestIsland » Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:27 am

The day after the incident, I read the headline "Student Arrested For Bringing Clock to School" my news feed and read it as "Glock," thinking to myself "Another day in Murica!"
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Postby Rhunovakia » Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:29 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Courlany wrote:In the media and on this forum they refer to him as Arab-American. Isn't he simply American?

The fact he is ethnically Arabic is significant in this case.

He's Sudanese, the Sudanese are African and not Arab.

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