by Pot4toes » Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:25 pm
by Threlizdun » Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:28 pm
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by Pot4toes » Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:30 pm
Threlizdun wrote:You do realize that is what this entire forum is for, right?
Babylatia wrote:I think in order to answer this question we need more information.Babylatia wrote:I think in order to answer this question we need more information.
Do you mean felons? Of which I think no.
Do you mean those arrested for less-major crimes? Then I am not sure.
Or those who are being held for misdemeanors? In which yes.
by Cannot think of a name » Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:31 pm
Pot4toes wrote:So, I guess the concept is very simple: this is a place for debating about several different topics at ranging degrees of importance,
by Yedmnrutika Gavr » Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:32 pm
Threlizdun wrote:You do realize that is what this entire forum is for, right?
by The Serbian Empire » Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:33 pm
by New Werpland » Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:35 pm
by Ifreann » Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:37 pm
by The Two Jerseys » Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:53 pm
Ifreann wrote:I think your problem is that you're under the impression that debates here are a game that one side wins or loses. That's not really how we do things.
by Wolfmanne2 » Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:54 pm
Ifreann wrote:I think your problem is that you're under the impression that debates here are a game that one side wins or loses. That's not really how we do things.
Mad hatters in jeans wrote:Yeah precipitating on everyone doesn't go down well usually. You seem patient enough to chat to us, i'm willing to count that as nice.
by Luna Amore » Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:58 pm
by The Two Jerseys » Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:00 pm
by Diopolis » Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:01 pm
Wolfmanne2 wrote:Ifreann wrote:I think your problem is that you're under the impression that debates here are a game that one side wins or loses. That's not really how we do things.
Aye. See, in NationStates General, debate is nonexistant. Generally something is posted, the majority view is formulated and than witty(?) one-liners are thrown at those who dissent. It's an interesting case study of what mob rule would be like in real life and I am thankful that actual governments do not use NationStates as an inspiration on how to govern countries.
inb4 one-liners are thrown at me.
by Bering » Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:04 pm
Diopolis wrote:Wolfmanne2 wrote:Aye. See, in NationStates General, debate is nonexistant. Generally something is posted, the majority view is formulated and than witty(?) one-liners are thrown at those who dissent. It's an interesting case study of what mob rule would be like in real life and I am thankful that actual governments do not use NationStates as an inspiration on how to govern countries.
inb4 one-liners are thrown at me.
*snarky comment including the word edge*
by Ifreann » Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:06 pm
by The Serbian Empire » Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:11 pm
Wolfmanne2 wrote:Ifreann wrote:I think your problem is that you're under the impression that debates here are a game that one side wins or loses. That's not really how we do things.
Aye. See, in NationStates General, debate is nonexistant. Generally something is posted, the majority view is formulated and than witty(?) one-liners are thrown at those who dissent. It's an interesting case study of what mob rule would be like in real life and I am thankful that actual governments do not use NationStates as an inspiration on how to govern countries.
inb4 one-liners are thrown at me.
EDIT: In regards to the topic, I lean towards 'yes', but only because the ECHR has deemed it as a human right. Personally I think punishment and incapacitation should take primacy over rehabiliation. Whilst the introduction has reduced reoffending rates, the fact is that the reoffending rate is still quite high. Rehabilitate those who can be rehabilitated and lock up the rest.
by Ifreann » Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:13 pm
The Serbian Empire wrote:Wolfmanne2 wrote:Aye. See, in NationStates General, debate is nonexistant. Generally something is posted, the majority view is formulated and than witty(?) one-liners are thrown at those who dissent. It's an interesting case study of what mob rule would be like in real life and I am thankful that actual governments do not use NationStates as an inspiration on how to govern countries.
inb4 one-liners are thrown at me.
EDIT: In regards to the topic, I lean towards 'yes', but only because the ECHR has deemed it as a human right. Personally I think punishment and incapacitation should take primacy over rehabiliation. Whilst the introduction has reduced reoffending rates, the fact is that the reoffending rate is still quite high. Rehabilitate those who can be rehabilitated and lock up the rest.
The ECHR is right on labor... but don't let them vote behind bars. They'll just vote for who offers most leniency to criminals. That I know will happen. Anyways, where's my Maserati that goes 185?
by The Hobbesian Metaphysician » Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:16 pm
The Serbian Empire wrote:Wolfmanne2 wrote:Aye. See, in NationStates General, debate is nonexistant. Generally something is posted, the majority view is formulated and than witty(?) one-liners are thrown at those who dissent. It's an interesting case study of what mob rule would be like in real life and I am thankful that actual governments do not use NationStates as an inspiration on how to govern countries.
inb4 one-liners are thrown at me.
EDIT: In regards to the topic, I lean towards 'yes', but only because the ECHR has deemed it as a human right. Personally I think punishment and incapacitation should take primacy over rehabiliation. Whilst the introduction has reduced reoffending rates, the fact is that the reoffending rate is still quite high. Rehabilitate those who can be rehabilitated and lock up the rest.
The ECHR is right on labor... but don't let them vote behind bars. They'll just vote for who offers most leniency to criminals. That I know will happen. Anyways, where's my Maserati that goes 185?
by Dooom35796821595 » Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:20 pm
by Ifreann » Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:24 pm
Dooom35796821595 wrote:They should get to vote if they are serving a short time for a non violent offence, the time could be from six months to four years, as they should only vote if they're released during the governments reign.
by Dooom35796821595 » Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:26 pm
Ifreann wrote:Dooom35796821595 wrote:They should get to vote if they are serving a short time for a non violent offence, the time could be from six months to four years, as they should only vote if they're released during the governments reign.
I'm guessing the idea behind this is that they shouldn't get to vote if they'll be in prison for the entire life of that government, yes?
by Ifreann » Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:29 pm
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