UK Politics Thread II: Gladstone's Revenge

[Monkeykind]

New Clause 3 fails.
Ayes to the right: 209.
Noes to the left: 309.

[Imperializt Russia]

New Clause 3 fails.
Ayes to the right: 209.
Noes to the left: 309.

Meaning?

[Monkeykind]

New Clause 3 fails.
Ayes to the right: 209.
Noes to the left: 309.

Meaning?

Meaning the amendment failed to be added to the bill. The amendment wo#uld have involved parents if there was an intervention in a school.

[Imperializt Russia]

I meant clause 3 of what legislation. Googling "clause 3 vote UK 16 September" was unproductive.

[Monkeykind]

I meant clause 3 of what legislation. Googling "clause 3 vote UK 16 September" was unproductive.

Oh, I posted that last page. Iiit was for the Education and Adoption Bill.

[Minoa]

Forcing people to sing an effectively religious anthem would just deepen divisions between the non-religious people and the state. In my opinion the complaining about Corbyn refusing to sing an effectively religious anthem should stop.

I'm not entirely sure that it's the religious element to which Mr Corbyn objects most strongly. It's more likely the last word of the first, second, third and seventh lines rather than the first word.

Sorry, I don't get the idea behind the controversy, considering the fact that my dissatisfaction with the country overall has grown due to Cameron.

[Alyakia]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34267886

So here is the chatter: that one or a number of the New Labour Blairite ultras could cross the floor to the Tories, because of their personal relationship with Osborne - to whom they feel closer, in a political and social sense, than they do to Labour's new leader, Jeremy Corbyn

[Wolfmanne2]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34267886

So here is the chatter: that one or a number of the New Labour Blairite ultras could cross the floor to the Tories, because of their personal relationship with Osborne - to whom they feel closer, in a political and social sense, than they do to Labour's new leader, Jeremy Corbyn

I guess it shows how the Tories have won over the centre. It's interesting to see that a few Labour MPs actually believe in the ideals of 'one nation', rather than the class dividing policies of the Tory Right and Labour Left.

[Alyakia]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34267886

So here is the chatter: that one or a number of the New Labour Blairite ultras could cross the floor to the Tories, because of their personal relationship with Osborne - to whom they feel closer, in a political and social sense, than they do to Labour's new leader, Jeremy Corbyn

I guess it shows how the Tories have won over the centre. It's interesting to see that a few Labour MPs actually believe in the ideals of 'one nation', rather than the class dividing policies of the Tory Right and Labour Left.

it shows that they are right-wing pieces of shit that are fundamentally opposed to the values of labour party, which is ironically the same line they used to deny votes to some trade unionists who had been labour for yonks

[Wolfmanne2]

I guess it shows how the Tories have won over the centre. It's interesting to see that a few Labour MPs actually believe in the ideals of 'one nation', rather than the class dividing policies of the Tory Right and Labour Left.

it shows that they are right-wing pieces of shit that are fundamentally opposed to the values of labour party, which is ironically the same line they used to deny votes to some trade unionists who had been labour for yonks

If centrists are right-wingers, does that make Corbyn a centrist?

[Alyakia]

stop calling us red tories corbyn is bad he will he will lead to a tory victory *openly considers forming coalition government will tories* *openly considers literally joining tories* egg on my face guys

[Wolfmanne2]

stop calling us red tories corbyn is bad he will he will lead to a tory victory *openly considers forming coalition government will tories* *openly considers literally joining tories* egg on my face guys

Say the Labour Party kicked out every Blairite, Brownite, Blue Labourite or whatever 'Red Tory' and 'something-er-rite' you hate, how many Labour MPs will the Labour Party be left with?

[Ostroeuropa]

stop calling us red tories corbyn is bad he will he will lead to a tory victory *openly considers forming coalition government will tories* *openly considers literally joining tories* egg on my face guys

You should be used to politicians changing their minds about something after an election.

"And they admire him. More than once I've been told, by a couple of their gang, that Osborne is the most impressive politician of the moment.Naturally it would be quite a coup for the Tories if the ascent of Corbyn led to Labour defections to their ranks. As is well known, both Osborne and Cameron were great admirers of Tony Blair, almost his disciples - and they both believe elections are won from the centre of politics."

Top lulz. If you say so dude. I'm sure the conservative front bench proudly declaring that they are just like Blair and that's why all the Blairites have joined them will be a real winner for them. Hey, maybe we can convince him to endorse them and denounce Corbyn again.

[Krumbia]

I feel that this is a relatively useful graph to post about the political orientation of the main parties at the 2015 general election.

[Wolfmanne2]

I feel that this is a relatively useful graph to post about the political orientation of the main parties at the 2015 general election.

(Image)

No one takes the election political compasses seriously. Essentially the whole political establishment is right-wing beyond belief? Hard to believe.

[The Serbian Empire]

I feel that this is a relatively useful graph to post about the political orientation of the main parties at the 2015 general election.

(Image)

No one takes the election political compasses seriously. Essentially the whole political establishment is right-wing beyond belief? Hard to believe.

It's believable given sociality values. That's how they became the establishment.

[Monkeykind]

I feel that this is a relatively useful graph to post about the political orientation of the main parties at the 2015 general election.

(Image)

No one takes the election political compasses seriously. Essentially the whole political establishment is right-wing beyond belief? Hard to believe.

Even the Greens are closer to the center than the Far Left in that.

[St Wilhelm]

I guess it shows how the Tories have won over the centre. It's interesting to see that a few Labour MPs actually believe in the ideals of 'one nation', rather than the class dividing policies of the Tory Right and Labour Left.

it shows that they are right-wing pieces of shit that are fundamentally opposed to the values of labour party, which is ironically the same line they used to deny votes to some trade unionists who had been labour for yonks

You know, Labour doesn't have enough supporters to literally tell them to join the Conservative Party.

Personally, I extend an arm to all moderate, pragmatic Labour supporters - together we can make 1997 look like a narrow victory.

[Ragnarheim]

What is the correct term for Corbyn: tramp or vagrant?

[Krumbia]

What is the correct term for Corbyn: tramp or vagrant?

The correct term is 'The Right Honourable Member'.

[Alyakia]

it shows that they are right-wing pieces of shit that are fundamentally opposed to the values of labour party, which is ironically the same line they used to deny votes to some trade unionists who had been labour for yonks

You know, Labour doesn't have enough supporters to literally tell them to join the Conservative Party.

Personally, I extend an arm to all moderate, pragmatic Labour supporters - together we can make 1997 look like a narrow victory.

that reminds me. did you ever actually respond when i asked you why you vote tory?

maybe corbyn's victory will help curtail the levels of bullshit in politics. like "Personally, I extend an arm to all moderate, pragmatic Labour supporters - together we can make 1997 look like a narrow victory". i'm not sure you could get more fake without waiting for dodgy chinese factories to get wind of it.

[Monkeykind]

What is the correct term for Corbyn: tramp or vagrant?

The correct term is the Right Honourable Leader of the Opposition of Her Majestys Government, leader of the Labour Pparty, Member of Parliament for Islington North, member of the Socailist Campaign Group, the Palestinian Solidarity Campaign, Amnesty International and the Camapign for Nuclear Disarmament and National Chair of the Stop the War Coalition.

[Val Halla]

Didn't Corbyn say he wouldn't wear ties?

[Alyakia]

What is the correct term for Corbyn: tramp or vagrant?

The correct term is the Right Honourable Leader of the Opposition of Her Majestys Government, leader of the Labour Pparty, Member of Parliament for Islington North, member of the Socailist Campaign Group, the Palestinian Solidarity Campaign, Amnesty International and the Camapign for Nuclear Disarmament and National Chair of the Stop the War Coalition.

why do i feel like you added all of those in as insults

which leads us to the interesting question of why you think amnesty international is bad

[Wolfmanne2]

Didn't Corbyn say he wouldn't wear ties?

Pffff, no surprise. He's not even working class.

The correct term is the Right Honourable Leader of the Opposition of Her Majestys Government, leader of the Labour Pparty, Member of Parliament for Islington North, member of the Socailist Campaign Group, the Palestinian Solidarity Campaign, Amnesty International and the Camapign for Nuclear Disarmament and National Chair of the Stop the War Coalition.

why do i feel like you added all of those in as insults

which leads us to the interesting question of why you think amnesty international is bad

Obvious mistake. I mean I'm involved in my local Amnesty International youth group. Rest are fairly relevant. Even the Palestine one in today's political climate.