UK Politics Thread II: Gladstone's Revenge

[Knokkeheist]

comrade corbyn:

hates britain
loves the IRA
loves hamas
hates the queen
wants to disband the army
wants humanity to be destroyed by an asteroid

premature ejaculation is a serious issue folks

If this is true , he is a traitor.

[The Nihilistic view]

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/sep/16/hospital-in-cambridge-denies-ice-to-patients-to-save-money

Maybe if we have more cuts we can get the ice back.

Stops me having to take it out my glass when despite all my efforts the bloody stuff slips in anyway.

[Atlanticatia]

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... ur-reasons

Good article on why Jeremy Corbyn needs a spin doctor.

[SD_Film Artists]

I think the Daily Mail and their ilk are only harming themselves by crying wolf with those sensationalist claims. If Corbyn's real views are some degrees better than what the Daily Mail claims, he'd still have terrible views.

You'd be surprised how many people end up believing claims printed in the Daily Mail.

The sad part is that I'm now considering that having the Daily Mail get its way is still better than Corbyn. I do wish there was a more centrist voice in British politics (apart from 8 Lib Dems).

[The Nihilistic view]

comrade corbyn:

hates britain
loves the IRA
loves hamas
hates the queen
wants to disband the army
wants humanity to be destroyed by an asteroid

premature ejaculation is a serious issue folks

If this is true , he is a traitor.

Well being a republican is technically illegal so...........

[The Nihilistic view]

The following scenario has just dawned on me, in the next 5 years the Queen could die and we all know who would take over from her and how (un)popular he is... with a republican Labour leader possibly still there... shit could get extremely real for the Monarchy/Republic debate. Nobody is dethroning Queen Elizabeth the 2nd I think that is pretty damn certain but king Charles the 3rd? He might just prompt republicans (Corbyn) into making a debate of it. I still think he would ultimately lose that debate and it would severely hurt his election chances if he ever made that a real issue even with Charles instead of Elizabeth but it would bring the issue into the limelight.

Given Prince Charles has a rating much higher than any politician, double most there is zero chance of any debate. Any attempt to start one would be quickly laughed out the room. He would have to cause a constitutional crisis of epic proportions for that to change. Nobody even cared about the letters outside of hardline republicans and they might have made some people approve of him more given the content of them.

[The Archregimancy]

Alex Salmond's 'victory speech' - more accurately, the speech he would have given had the independence referendum resulted in a 'yes' vote - has been published in full.

The text can be found here:

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/1375 ... h_in_full/

[SD_Film Artists]

Alex Salmond's 'victory speech' - more accurately, the speech he would have given had the independence referendum resulted in a 'yes' vote - has been published in full.

The text can be found here:

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/1375 ... h_in_full/

I see he's following General Eisenhower's example

[L Ron Cupboard]

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/15/eremy-corbyn-needs-spin-doctor-media-four-reasons

Good article on why Jeremy Corbyn needs a spin doctor.

I think it completely misunderstands Corbyn's appeal for a lot of people.

[L Ron Cupboard]

Given Prince Charles has a rating much higher than any politician, double most there is zero chance of any debate. Any attempt to start one would be quickly laughed out the room. He would have to cause a constitutional crisis of epic proportions for that to change. Nobody even cared about the letters outside of hardline republicans and they might have made some people approve of him more given the content of them.

If approval ratings affected anything the next king would be William.

[Val Halla]

Alex Salmond's 'victory speech' - more accurately, the speech he would have given had the independence referendum resulted in a 'yes' vote - has been published in full.

The text can be found here:

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/1375 ... h_in_full/

I'd have just gone "Yeaaaaah let's party!"

[Eastfield Lodge]

So, the Tories opened PMQ's with an implicit slam against Corbyn's not singing the national anthem.

[Ostroeuropa]

So, the Tories opened PMQ's with an implicit slam against Corbyn's not singing the national anthem.

Nobody likes the national anthem though, it's kind of shit.

They might like it on a meta-level, because it's kind of shit and our country is kind of shit in a lot of ways. Therein lies the smugness of british superiority.
We KNOW we're kind of shit. It's a big part of our identity. All those other countries suffer from the delusion they are great. (Even when they don't.)

Even our comedy revolves around this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k2AbqTBxao

[Chartist Socialist Republics]

Corbyn's new PMQ format will probably go down well with the public. However he needs to be more combative and prepared to counter Cameron's answers to prevent the PM from peddling his own political arguments.

[Hirota]

So, the Tories opened PMQ's with an implicit slam against Corbyn's not singing the national anthem.

Everything the tories or press tries to do to sling shit at Corbyn makes me like him more.

[Val Halla]

So, the Tories opened PMQ's with an implicit slam against Corbyn's not singing the national anthem.

Everything the tories or press tries to do to sling shit at Corbyn makes me like him more.

It's embarrassing that our mainstream media looks like satire

[Napkiraly]

Alex Salmond's 'victory speech' - more accurately, the speech he would have given had the independence referendum resulted in a 'yes' vote - has been published in full.

The text can be found here:

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/1375 ... h_in_full/

I'd have just gone "Yeaaaaah let's party!"

I would have just launched Operation Drink Myself to Oblivion In Despair

[The Serbian Empire]

Everything the tories or press tries to do to sling shit at Corbyn makes me like him more.

It's embarrassing that our mainstream media looks like satire

Then the US is a farce comedy.

[SD_Film Artists]

So, the Tories opened PMQ's with an implicit slam against Corbyn's not singing the national anthem.

Everything the tories or press tries to do to sling shit at Corbyn makes me like him more.

It's not a question of what Corbyn's opponents say, it's what he does (or the lack of it) which matters. Or to quote Mitchell and Webb-

Nazi 1: "Oh you haven't been listening to Allied propaganda, of course they're going to say we're the bad guys."

Nazi 2: "But they didn't get to design our uniforms.."


Yes NSG, we've just hit Godwin's Law.

[Napkiraly]

It's embarrassing that our mainstream media looks like satire

Then the US is a farce comedy.

It's been that way for at least the past 15-20 years.

[Hirota]

It's not a question of what Corbyn's opponents say,

It matters because it proves they are panicking. They don't know how to engage him and the groundswell of public opinion, so they sling shit.

it's what he does (or the lack of it) which matters.

In the longer term when policies and manifestos are published. Him not singing the anthem means absolutely nothing. If anything, it demonstrates a desire to stick to his principles in the face of tory shit slinging, which I admire.

[SD_Film Artists]

Him not singing the anthem means absolutely nothing.

If only that was the worst of it.

It matters because it proves they are panicking. They don't know how to engage him and the groundswell of public opinion, so they sling shit.

And if Labour came out with the old "Tories love bankers" etc etc, would you say that's a sign of panic too?

[Eastfield Lodge]

Corbyn's new PMQ format will probably go down well with the public. However he needs to be more combative and prepared to counter Cameron's answers to prevent the PM from peddling his own political arguments.

Literally every answer Cameron gave to Corbyn came with the caveat of 'this can only happen as long as our economy remains strong'. It was almost pitiful.

[The Nihilistic view]

Given Prince Charles has a rating much higher than any politician, double most there is zero chance of any debate. Any attempt to start one would be quickly laughed out the room. He would have to cause a constitutional crisis of epic proportions for that to change. Nobody even cared about the letters outside of hardline republicans and they might have made some people approve of him more given the content of them.

If approval ratings affected anything the next king would be William.

They are a reflection of how people feel which is how I was using it. Not sure why you posted that.

[Hirota]

And if Labour came out with the old "Tories love bankers" etc etc, would you say that's a sign of panic too?

Panic is the act of responding through unthinking behaviour. By definition if labour came out with the same old speil it wouldn't necessarily be panic.

I'd agree both are born from varying degrees of desperation though.