9/11

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Have you ever lost your loved ones to a goddamn terrorists? Cause that what happened to people on 9/11.

Have you (an innocent) ever lost your home and entire family (innocents) to an invading foreign power, in retribution for something you had nothing to do with? Because that's been happening in the hundreds of thousands, even millions, since the war on terror began.

[Crolacia]

Have you ever lost your loved ones to a goddamn terrorists? Cause that what happened to people on 9/11.

Have you (an innocent) ever lost your home and entire family (innocents) to an invading foreign power, in retribution for something you had nothing to do with? Because that's been happening in the hundreds of thousands, even millions, since the war on terror began.

Dis.

[Vassenor]

Have you ever lost your loved ones to a goddamn terrorists? Cause that what happened to people on 9/11.

Have you (an innocent) ever lost your home and entire family (innocents) to an invading foreign power, in retribution for something you had nothing to do with? Because that's been happening in the hundreds of thousands, even millions, since the war on terror began.

Yup. That pretty much sums up how "Oppression Olympics" this is getting.

[Apollinis]

Have you ever lost your loved ones to a goddamn terrorists? Cause that what happened to people on 9/11.

I had no idea that people lost loved ones to terrorists on 9/11.

Lots of people, all over the world, have lost their loved ones to terrorists. I get the importance of 9/11 to those directly affected by it, but it's not some kind of utterly sacred moment in human history which can never be discussed, its anniversary is even less so and in fact is the ideal time to discuss its causes and consequences, and it is not the worst thing ever to happen. It's not even the worst thing ever to happen in the United States.

[Chestaan]

Offered peace terms?

And Germany offered a peace treaty with France and Britain shortly after annexing Poland, on the condition they could keep Poland.

This is why the Allies wanted unconditional surrender, the conditions were simply unnacceptable. IIRC the Japanese conditions included immunity from war crimes and being allowed to keep captured territories.

They'd have no reason not to go to war, quick conquer someone else's land, then call for peace with no consequence whatsoever.

Read it again. Japan agreed to enter talks before the second bomb and just after Russia declared war. It was Russia's declaration of war that forced Japan into unconditional surrender.

But we digress, to avoid derailing I suggest that we agree to disagree or you can start another thread to discuss this issue.

I suggest you give this a good read.

Like I said, I'm more than happy to discuss this topic, but not in this thread.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

This one?

No jokes on this day, please.

What was the last pizza delivery to the Twin towers?

Two large planes.

[BlazingAngel]

Have you ever lost your loved ones to a goddamn terrorists? Cause that what happened to people on 9/11.

Have you (an innocent) ever lost your home and entire family (innocents) to an invading foreign power, in retribution for something you had nothing to do with? Because that's been happening in the hundreds of thousands, even millions, since the war on terror began.

No, but I've seen people who lost their. People who were suppose to have a life but it was virtually destroyed on that one fateful day. If you're not an American, get out. Now, the question has been turned, have you lost anyone from war?

[Vassenor]

Have you (an innocent) ever lost your home and entire family (innocents) to an invading foreign power, in retribution for something you had nothing to do with? Because that's been happening in the hundreds of thousands, even millions, since the war on terror began.

No, but I've seen people who lost their. People who were suppose to have a life but it was virtually destroyed on that one fateful day. If you're not an American, get out. Now, the question has been turned, have you lost anyone from war?

Were you even listening when I pointed out that you don't get to dictate the terms of the discussion?

[Alyakia]

Have you (an innocent) ever lost your home and entire family (innocents) to an invading foreign power, in retribution for something you had nothing to do with? Because that's been happening in the hundreds of thousands, even millions, since the war on terror began.

No, but I've seen people who lost their. People who were suppose to have a life but it was virtually destroyed on that one fateful day. If you're not an American, get out. Now, the question has been turned, have you lost anyone from war?

what if i'm not american but i know americans who got killed by islamists

do i stand in the corner

[Librica]

Have you (an innocent) ever lost your home and entire family (innocents) to an invading foreign power, in retribution for something you had nothing to do with? Because that's been happening in the hundreds of thousands, even millions, since the war on terror began.

No, but I've seen people who lost their. People who were suppose to have a life but it was virtually destroyed on that one fateful day. If you're not an American, get out. Now, the question has been turned, have you lost anyone from war?

[Wisconsin9]

Rest in peace, to the 2,996 Americans that died in 9/11.

And rest in peace to the 1,445,590 Iraqis who died in the U.S. invasion for something they didn't do.

It was actually 2,605 Americans who died. There were 372 foreign fatalities, 391 if you count the terrorists.

Have you (an innocent) ever lost your home and entire family (innocents) to an invading foreign power, in retribution for something you had nothing to do with? Because that's been happening in the hundreds of thousands, even millions, since the war on terror began.

No, but I've seen people who lost their. People who were suppose to have a life but it was virtually destroyed on that one fateful day. If you're not an American, get out. Now, the question has been turned, have you lost anyone from war?

No you fucking do not get to do that. 9/11 affected the entire world. People from 90 countries died in the attacks, and hundreds of thousands of people died or lost their homes or loved ones during the invasions we launched because of it. They suffered too, AND YOU DO NOT GET TO IGNORE THAT SUFFERING JUST BECAUSE IT HAPPENED TO PEOPLE IN OTHER COUNTRIES!

[Justin States 3]

How did everything that you guys posted earlier had nothing to do with 9/11? Sure Japan deserved the bombing, sure Germany get raped by Soviet Russia but come on! This is a remembrance page, not a chat room about politic and other natural disasters.
What is wrong with you people?

Nothing is wrong with us. So...how about asking your self the same question?

[Mysterious Stranger 2]

Have you (an innocent) ever lost your home and entire family (innocents) to an invading foreign power, in retribution for something you had nothing to do with? Because that's been happening in the hundreds of thousands, even millions, since the war on terror began.

No, but I've seen people who lost their. People who were suppose to have a life but it was virtually destroyed on that one fateful day. If you're not an American, get out. Now, the question has been turned, have you lost anyone from war?

Lol. Yes, the best response to a disaster is to become a jingoistic begot.

[BlazingAngel]

No, but I've seen people who lost their. People who were suppose to have a life but it was virtually destroyed on that one fateful day. If you're not an American, get out. Now, the question has been turned, have you lost anyone from war?

Were you even listening when I pointed out that you don't get to dictate the terms of the discussion?

Yes I did, in facts, I read all the posted that were in this discussion and understood it. Were you not listening what this thread is suppose to be about?

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Have you (an innocent) ever lost your home and entire family (innocents) to an invading foreign power, in retribution for something you had nothing to do with? Because that's been happening in the hundreds of thousands, even millions, since the war on terror began.

No, but I've seen people who lost their. People who were suppose to have a life but it was virtually destroyed on that one fateful day. If you're not an American, get out. Now, the question has been turned, have you lost anyone from war?

Even if I wasn't an American (which I am), I'd still have the right to be here, because this is an open forum, and you don't get to tell people to fuck off because you don't like what they're saying.

There have been thousand of Middle Eastern families torn apart because of the war on terror. There have been bloodlines fucking eliminated. Children scared of blue skies because that's when the drones fly.

Excuse me if I find imperialistic nationalism/patriotism rather disgusting.

[Atelia]

I dont particularly like America or the West as a whole. I respect the fact that people died most of whom were innocent, but you need to bloody stop talking about it every year, It serves no purpose by this point and the more you seem to bring it up, the more people that believe it was a plot backed by the American government (Atleast where I live).

[Hyfling]

And Germany offered a peace treaty with France and Britain shortly after annexing Poland, on the condition they could keep Poland.

This is why the Allies wanted unconditional surrender, the conditions were simply unnacceptable. IIRC the Japanese conditions included immunity from war crimes and being allowed to keep captured territories.

They'd have no reason not to go to war, quick conquer someone else's land, then call for peace with no consequence whatsoever.

Have you ever lost your loved ones to a goddamn terrorists? Cause that what happened to people on 9/11.

Was too young to remember it, I was only three.

I think I can vaguely remember seeing footage of the towers on fire on the TV, probably not live, but from the weeks following the attack. Later on, I sort of just learned what had happened and didn't really give it much thought after.

However, seeing 102 Minutes that Changed the World last night, how truly horrible it must have been, especially to see it unfolding like that...

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

No, but I've seen people who lost their. People who were suppose to have a life but it was virtually destroyed on that one fateful day. If you're not an American, get out. Now, the question has been turned, have you lost anyone from war?

what if i'm not american but i know americans who got killed by islamists

do i stand in the corner

Obviously you don't matter cuz you aren't American.

[Vassenor]

Were you even listening when I pointed out that you don't get to dictate the terms of the discussion?

Yes I did, in facts, I read all the posted that were in this discussion and understood it. Were you not listening what this thread is suppose to be about?

When has this thread stopped being about the events of 9/11 and its historical context?

[Librica]

Were you even listening when I pointed out that you don't get to dictate the terms of the discussion?

Were you not listening what this thread is suppose to be about?

Planes accidentally crashing into buildings?

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

Were you even listening when I pointed out that you don't get to dictate the terms of the discussion?

Yes I did, in facts, I read all the posted that were in this discussion and understood it. Were you not listening what this thread is suppose to be about?

Here's a clue- it's not about you.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

No you fucking do not get to do that. 9/11 affected the entire world. People from 90 countries died in the attacks, and hundreds of thousands of people died or lost their homes or loved ones during the invasions we launched because of it. They suffered too, AND YOU DO NOT GET TO IGNORE THAT SUFFERING JUST BECAUSE IT HAPPENED TO PEOPLE IN OTHER COUNTRIES!

Not only does he get to do that, he's trying to force the rest of us to do so as well.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

I dont particularly like America or the West as a whole. I respect the fact that people died most of whom were innocent, but you need to bloody stop talking about it every year, It serves no purpose by this point and the more you seem to bring it up, the more people that believe it was a plot backed by the American government (Atleast where I live).

Right?

Honestly, every time it gets brought up around me, I only grow more adamant about how Middle Easterners have suffered far more than us because of it.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

Have you ever lost your loved ones to a goddamn terrorists? Cause that what happened to people on 9/11.

Was too young to remember it, I was only three.

I think I can vaguely remember seeing footage of the towers on fire on the TV, probably not live, but from the weeks following the attack. Later on, I sort of just learned what had happened and didn't really really give it much thought after.

However, seeing 102 Minutes that Changed the World last night, how truly horrible it must have been, especially to see it unfolding like that...

And I was nine- all I remember was that I was in school when we were all told to have a moment of silence for no explained reason, and only learned about the attack when I came home two hours latter.

[BlazingAngel]

Yes I did, in facts, I read all the posted that were in this discussion and understood it. Were you not listening what this thread is suppose to be about?

When has this thread stopped being about the events of 9/11 and its historical context?

Ever since people started to bring up George Bush, politic and Japan. Too many bullshit in this page and it like, nobody give a fuck about other people suffering. I'm sorry for saying it but it true.