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Postby Idzequitch » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:31 pm

Tejada fractured his leg. These injuries to second basemen due to sliding are getting ridiculous.
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Postby Gim » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:31 pm

Idzequitch wrote:Tejada fractured his leg. These injuries to second basemen due to sliding are getting ridiculous.


Yeah, Pittsburgh lost in the Wild Card match, due to injury to 2B Kang.
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Postby Frenline Delpha » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:40 pm

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Idzequitch wrote:Tejada fractured his leg. These injuries to second basemen due to sliding are getting ridiculous.


Yeah, Pittsburgh lost in the Wild Card match, due to injury to 2B Kang.

Sure. That's the ONLY reason. :roll:
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Postby Gim » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:42 pm

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Yeah, Pittsburgh lost in the Wild Card match, due to injury to 2B Kang.

Sure. That's the ONLY reason. :roll:


No, but that's the primary reason. :)
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Postby Idzequitch » Sat Oct 10, 2015 10:25 pm

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Frenline Delpha wrote:Sure. That's the ONLY reason. :roll:


No, but that's the primary reason. :)

Arrieta is the primary reason. That and the Pirates inability to bat against him.
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Postby Gim » Sat Oct 10, 2015 10:32 pm

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No, but that's the primary reason. :)

Arrieta is the primary reason. That and the Pirates inability to bat against him.


Well, he is a big reason as well, but game would have been 0-0 tied, had it not been for the defensive weakness of the Pirates.
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Postby Idzequitch » Sat Oct 10, 2015 10:35 pm

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Idzequitch wrote:Arrieta is the primary reason. That and the Pirates inability to bat against him.


Well, he is a big reason as well, but game would have been 0-0 tied, had it not been for the defensive weakness of the Pirates.
Arrieta was great; don't get me wrong. I have utmost respect for the guy.

The Pirates aren't a very strong defensive team. That was true both with Kang, and without.
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Postby Gim » Sat Oct 10, 2015 10:39 pm

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Well, he is a big reason as well, but game would have been 0-0 tied, had it not been for the defensive weakness of the Pirates.
Arrieta was great; don't get me wrong. I have utmost respect for the guy.

The Pirates aren't a very strong defensive team. That was true both with Kang, and without.


Yes, you're right, but Kang would've helped. Pirates brought him to the team for a reason.
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Postby Idzequitch » Sat Oct 10, 2015 10:47 pm

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Idzequitch wrote:The Pirates aren't a very strong defensive team. That was true both with Kang, and without.


Yes, you're right, but Kang would've helped. Pirates brought him to the team for a reason.

I suggested nothing to the contrary, except that a different 2nd baseman would not have saved the Pirates.
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Postby Gim » Sat Oct 10, 2015 10:50 pm

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Yes, you're right, but Kang would've helped. Pirates brought him to the team for a reason.

I suggested nothing to the contrary, except that a different 2nd baseman would not have saved the Pirates.


Okay, maybe it was Cole's fault, rather than the absence of Kang Jung-Ho, although Kang's really not a bad player at all.
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Postby Idzequitch » Sat Oct 10, 2015 10:56 pm

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Idzequitch wrote:I suggested nothing to the contrary, except that a different 2nd baseman would not have saved the Pirates.


Okay, maybe it was Cole's fault, rather than the absence of Kang Jung-Ho, although Kang's really not a bad player at all.

Here's the thing. Instances where you can blame a win or a loss entirely on one player and few and far between. It's a team game, won and lost by teams. The Pirates' shortcoming was a team issue, and to try to pin that loss on any one player is honestly erroneous.

And finally, I never said Kang was a bad player, so please stop pretending that I did.
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Postby Gim » Sat Oct 10, 2015 10:58 pm

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Okay, maybe it was Cole's fault, rather than the absence of Kang Jung-Ho, although Kang's really not a bad player at all.

Here's the thing. Instances where you can blame a win or a loss entirely on one player and few and far between. It's a team game, won and lost by teams. The Pirates' shortcoming was a team issue, and to try to pin that loss on any one player is honestly erroneous.

And finally, I never said Kang was a bad player, so please stop pretending that I did.


Sorry, I was emphasizing that Kang is not a bad player, not hinting that you were pretending that he wasn't.
I should have chosen the wording more carefully. :hug:
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Postby San Llera » Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:11 pm

"e) If, in the judgment of the umpire, a base runner willfully and deliberately interferes with a batted ball or a fielder in the act of fielding a batted ball with the obvious intent to break up a double play, the ball is dead. The umpire shall call the runner out for interference and also call out the batter-runner because of the action of his teammate. In no event may bases be run or runs scored because of such action by a runner."

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Postby Gim » Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:12 pm

San Llera wrote:"e) If, in the judgment of the umpire, a base runner willfully and deliberately interferes with a batted ball or a fielder in the act of fielding a batted ball with the obvious intent to break up a double play, the ball is dead. The umpire shall call the runner out for interference and also call out the batter-runner because of the action of his teammate. In no event may bases be run or runs scored because of such action by a runner."

MLB has a lot of explaining to do.


When did a controversy related to this happen?
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Postby San Llera » Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:15 pm

Gim wrote:
San Llera wrote:"e) If, in the judgment of the umpire, a base runner willfully and deliberately interferes with a batted ball or a fielder in the act of fielding a batted ball with the obvious intent to break up a double play, the ball is dead. The umpire shall call the runner out for interference and also call out the batter-runner because of the action of his teammate. In no event may bases be run or runs scored because of such action by a runner."

MLB has a lot of explaining to do.


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Postby Gim » Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:16 pm

San Llera wrote:
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Tonight.


Oh, that's how Tejada broke his fibula.
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Postby Idzequitch » Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:17 pm

San Llera wrote:"e) If, in the judgment of the umpire, a base runner willfully and deliberately interferes with a batted ball or a fielder in the act of fielding a batted ball with the obvious intent to break up a double play, the ball is dead. The umpire shall call the runner out for interference and also call out the batter-runner because of the action of his teammate. In no event may bases be run or runs scored because of such action by a runner."

MLB has a lot of explaining to do.

Indeed. And they need greater penalties for doing so, such as fines or suspensions. Second basemen have become vulnerable to this style of play.
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Postby Schiltzberg » Sun Oct 11, 2015 10:14 am

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Sacara wrote:Cubs win against Cardinals, 6-3

Cubs play at home against the Cardinals, series tied at 1-1, Arrieta set to pitch against Michael Wacha on Monday.

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Postby Schiltzberg » Sun Oct 11, 2015 10:15 am

Gim wrote:
San Llera wrote:Tonight.


Oh, that's how Tejada broke his fibula.

Oh yeah, wtf was up with that slide? That was really messed up. He literally didn't even touch the base; he was only going for Tejada's legs.
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Postby Eastern Equestria » Sun Oct 11, 2015 10:23 am

San Llera wrote:"e) If, in the judgment of the umpire, a base runner willfully and deliberately interferes with a batted ball or a fielder in the act of fielding a batted ball with the obvious intent to break up a double play, the ball is dead. The umpire shall call the runner out for interference and also call out the batter-runner because of the action of his teammate. In no event may bases be run or runs scored because of such action by a runner."

MLB has a lot of explaining to do.


This is far from the only rule that umpires generally don't give a shit about. See "neighborhood plays" and MLB official rule 8.04

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Postby Schiltzberg » Sun Oct 11, 2015 11:12 am

It would be cool if the Rangers could win tonight and knock out a quality team.
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Postby Gim » Sun Oct 11, 2015 11:14 am

Schiltzberg wrote:It would be cool if the Rangers could win tonight and knock out a quality team.


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Postby Schiltzberg » Sun Oct 11, 2015 11:24 am

Oh, I finally get why the Cubs are doing so well! Dave Ross is an old goat, and they let him into Wrigley Field, so the curse has been reversed!
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Postby Gim » Sun Oct 11, 2015 11:31 am

Schiltzberg wrote:Oh, I finally get why the Cubs are doing so well! Dave Ross is an old goat, and they let him into Wrigley Field, so the curse has been reversed!


Don't jinx it, man. :p
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Postby Schiltzberg » Sun Oct 11, 2015 11:32 am

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Schiltzberg wrote:Oh, I finally get why the Cubs are doing so well! Dave Ross is an old goat, and they let him into Wrigley Field, so the curse has been reversed!


Don't jinx it, man. :p

Okay.
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