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The Flame Dawn
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Postby The Flame Dawn » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:07 pm

To be honest, this thread included Europeans and Africans but forgot about Asians. While I myself am personally not familiar with African history, aside from the Egyptian Empire and the Zulu Empire. I am partially offended that a thread which exclaims that people are ignoring black history, which is as significant as anyone else's, but forgets to even acknowledge Asians (and the Native Americans).

Personal Opinion so I don't mind any criticism.
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Postby Kar-Esseria » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:07 pm

Jochistan wrote:Is there a black supremacist equivalent to stormfront?


OP would probably know.

If not, OP would probably make one.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:07 pm

I do agree African history is severly downplayed in history, but this op is ridiculous.
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Postby Mysterious Stranger 2 » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:07 pm

Jochistan wrote:Is there a black supremacist equivalent to stormfront?

It's usually called black separatism, actually, and while I don't know about websites specifically, the Nation of Islam would probably be the closest equivalent.

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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:08 pm

NeuPolska wrote:All this China stuff sounds about as legit as those Illuminati theories.


Or his theory that anything worthwhile in history came from Africa or from Africans.

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:09 pm

Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
NeuPolska wrote:All this China stuff sounds about as legit as those Illuminati theories.


Or his theory that anything worthwhile in history came from Africa or from Africans.

Ok now that I'll argue
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Postby NeuPolska » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:10 pm

Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
NeuPolska wrote:All this China stuff sounds about as legit as those Illuminati theories.


Or his theory that anything worthwhile in history came from Africa or from Africans.

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Postby Salus Maior » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:10 pm

The Flame Dawn wrote:To be honest, this thread included Europeans and Africans but forgot about Asians. While I myself am personally not familiar with African history, aside from the Egyptian Empire and the Zulu Empire. I am partially offended that a thread which exclaims that people are ignoring black history, which is as significant as anyone else's, but forgets to even acknowledge Asians (and the Native Americans).

Personal Opinion so I don't mind any criticism.


Well, Native American history is difficult to trace because they never kept records, or even had writing outside of the Mesoamerican civs like the Aztecs and the South American Incas.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:10 pm

Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
NeuPolska wrote:All this China stuff sounds about as legit as those Illuminati theories.


Or his theory that anything worthwhile in history came from Africa or from Africans.


Technically the OP would be correct, as we DID all come from Africa (broadly speaking). But don't limit it to white people, please! The great African invention of the Inca Empire needs love too!
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Postby Mysterious Stranger 2 » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:12 pm

Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
NeuPolska wrote:All this China stuff sounds about as legit as those Illuminati theories.


Or his theory that anything worthwhile in history came from Africa or from Africans.

See, this. This is the thing.

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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:13 pm

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Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
Or his theory that anything worthwhile in history came from Africa or from Africans.


Technically the OP would be correct, as we DID all come from Africa (broadly speaking). But don't limit it to white people, please! The great African invention of the Inca Empire needs love too!


Well, if that were the case, as most of us can probably trace our ancestry back into the sea, then everything in Human Civilization have been created by Merfolks.

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:13 pm

Maybe I'm biased by years of love towards West African culture, but they made great acheivments.
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Postby Jumalariik » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:14 pm

NeuPolska wrote:I'll have you know I took an AP European History course and passed with an A.

And I do plenty of my own reading up on history because as you'll see in my sig I like this kind of shit.

And I assure you the claims you're making are preposterous.

I did the same without studying the course lol
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Postby Mysterious Stranger 2 » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:15 pm

Jumalariik wrote:
NeuPolska wrote:I'll have you know I took an AP European History course and passed with an A.

And I do plenty of my own reading up on history because as you'll see in my sig I like this kind of shit.

And I assure you the claims you're making are preposterous.

I did the same without studying the course lol
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Postby Sumabaw » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:15 pm

I'm not racist.

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Postby The Flame Dawn » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:15 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
The Flame Dawn wrote:To be honest, this thread included Europeans and Africans but forgot about Asians. While I myself am personally not familiar with African history, aside from the Egyptian Empire and the Zulu Empire. I am partially offended that a thread which exclaims that people are ignoring black history, which is as significant as anyone else's, but forgets to even acknowledge Asians (and the Native Americans).

Personal Opinion so I don't mind any criticism.


Well, Native American history is difficult to trace because they never kept records, or even had writing outside of the Mesoamerican civs like the Aztecs and the South American Incas.


True, which is part of the reason why I didn't refer to the Native Americans all that much (sorry).

I myself have always been fascinated by the people of Asia, in the Middle East (because the religion of Islam fascinates me), South East Asia (because of the uniqueness of their culture and similarities to the Inca, Mayan, and Aztec People [I think]), and of course the Far East (with the power of china, eastern philosophers, and how the Far East reacted to "Westerners")
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Postby Benuty » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:15 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtmb8sYyorM

If Afro-Centrism is so great then why is the Joker white?
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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:17 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:Maybe I'm biased by years of love towards West African culture, but they made great acheivments.


There's a huge leap from saying, "West African Culture is fascinating and achieved many great achievements" and "Plato was a black man, and so was Charlemagne, Confucius, and al-Khwārizmī."

Perhaps I am overstating the OP's case, but I don't feel that it is by much.

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Postby Salus Maior » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:17 pm

The Flame Dawn wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Well, Native American history is difficult to trace because they never kept records, or even had writing outside of the Mesoamerican civs like the Aztecs and the South American Incas.


True, which is part of the reason why I didn't refer to the Native Americans all that much (sorry).

I myself have always been fascinated by the people of Asia, in the Middle East (because the religion of Islam fascinates me), South East Asia (because of the uniqueness of their culture and similarities to the Inca, Mayan, and Aztec People [I think]), and of course the Far East (with the power of china, eastern philosophers, and how the Far East reacted to "Westerners")



Then you should take an Asian class, 'tis easy enough to do. I myself am in a Chinese history class this semester and it's my favorite class.
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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:18 pm

Benuty wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtmb8sYyorM

If Afro-Centrism is so great then why is the Joker white?

Because Batman's black?
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Postby Paledonn » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:19 pm

Jesus was Jewish. Also Greeks aren't black. And Africa hasn't exactly been the center of history. While lots happened and was discovered there, Europe, the Middle East, and Asia all seem to have them beat I mean, Imperialism, Monotheism, Guns, International wars, democracy, etc.

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Postby Urran » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:19 pm

Europeans were black? I'm black? I must be an albino....
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Postby NeuPolska » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:19 pm

Jumalariik wrote:
NeuPolska wrote:I'll have you know I took an AP European History course and passed with an A.

And I do plenty of my own reading up on history because as you'll see in my sig I like this kind of shit.

And I assure you the claims you're making are preposterous.

I did the same without studying the course lol
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I literally just sat there and listened to lectures the whole time. Everyone else was sitting there writing notes and stuff and by the end of the year they were reviewing their notes from the previous week and meanwhile I still remembered the type of arrow the English longbow archers used to penetrate armor (we talked about it in like the first week or two). The bodkin arrow 8)
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:20 pm

Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Maybe I'm biased by years of love towards West African culture, but they made great acheivments.


There's a huge leap from saying, "West African Culture is fascinating and achieved many great achievements" and "Plato was a black man, and so was Charlemagne, Confucius, and al-Khwārizmī."

Perhaps I am overstating the OP's case, but I don't feel that it is by much.

And I said that in an above post, but it seemed like you were saying they never acheived anything important
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Postby The Flame Dawn » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:22 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
The Flame Dawn wrote:
True, which is part of the reason why I didn't refer to the Native Americans all that much (sorry).

I myself have always been fascinated by the people of Asia, in the Middle East (because the religion of Islam fascinates me), South East Asia (because of the uniqueness of their culture and similarities to the Inca, Mayan, and Aztec People [I think]), and of course the Far East (with the power of china, eastern philosophers, and how the Far East reacted to "Westerners")



Then you should take an Asian class, 'tis easy enough to do. I myself am in a Chinese history class this semester and it's my favorite class.


Only a sophomore in high school, which is why I'm a bit shaky on some subjects of history. Learning World History now! *has mixed feelings about that last bit*

But if I had the option I would take any Asian class.
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