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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:49 pm

Billugslovakc wrote:Guys he's a troll, lets just pack up, take our informed views elsewhere and let this thread die.

Too late. We're already committed.
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Postby The Hoplitian People » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:49 pm

Arlenton wrote:
The Siverian Republic wrote:I have nothing against this thread, but only two choices? Either Racist, or Afro-centric? At least have another "other" option.

If it's not Afro-centric, it is 100% racist, bigot.

Now that is the thinking of a bigot.
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Postby Salus Maior » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:49 pm

Mysterious Stranger 2 wrote:You know, I expected to disagree with this, but I actually agree with everything OP just said. How odd.


While it's true that Jesus and Mary weren't white, nor the Egyptians, you can't seriously believe what he's saying?
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:49 pm

Billugslovakc wrote:
Equatorial Empire wrote:So in those pictures they have dark skin and "African" hair? Looks black to me.


Image Okay, i think we have a troll on our hands, good job buddy.

First, knock it off with the picspam. Secondly, and this goes for everyone, if you think someone is trolling, report it in Moderation. Troll-naming is itself a warnable offense in these parts.
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Postby Kar-Esseria » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:50 pm

NeuPolska wrote:Hey, Kar! Never thought I'd see you in NSG


I actually frequent it quite regularly.

In particular, this post enraged me at it's very sight. I am a total history buff/geek/nerd, I love the subject of history and am always willing to learn more about it. I'd describe myself as a amateur historian.

And that is why this is so unsightly to me. There is nothing in this world I despise more than historical revisionism. Lies trying to be fed as truth, trying to deceive people into rethinking the history that we know is true, the history we have proven and known for years. It absolutely disgusts me, whats worse is when it's nonsensical, racist, bullshit like this.
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Postby The Siverian Republic » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:50 pm

Arlenton wrote:
The Siverian Republic wrote:I have nothing against this thread, but only two choices? Either Racist, or Afro-centric? At least have another "other" option.

If it's not Afro-centric, it is 100% racist, bigot.

I am of African Descent, so im not racist nor a bigot. Im sure many of the people here that voted racist had no other option to choose from.
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Postby The Wolven League » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:50 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Billugslovakc wrote:


(Image) Okay, i think we have a troll on our hands, good job buddy.

First, knock it off with the picspam. Secondly, and this goes for everyone, if you think someone is trolling, report it in Moderation. Troll-naming is itself a warnable offense in these parts.

...you are on a bloggy, biased thread and not doing anything about it?
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Postby Jochistan » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:52 pm

The Egyptians were brown. but probably not black, which is why in their art they depicted themselves (copper skinned) different from Nubians and Kushites, who were black. (who were their successors in a way once, and advanced on their own)

The greek philosophers were fucking greeks.

Mary and Jesus were middle eastern.

The Moors did not bring Europe out of the dark ages. that was actually the europeans after various reformations to religious law. and booty brought back from the crusades. The Moors were more advanced for a time, yes. but they did not have much to do with Europe expanding technology and sanitation-wize.

The Moors were not exclusively black either, but a collection of Arabs, Berbers, Jews and Europeans. The Berbers are the only group thats black out of those.

There were many great african empires, such as the Kushites, Zimbabwe, Benin, Aksum, Ghana, Mali and the Songhai. But they did not define or improve in any real way the great western empires and cultures Such as the Greeks, Romans, Celts, Charlemagne's Empire, The Norse, England, France, Byzantines, Russia and all the rest.
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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:52 pm

My view of history tends to be Sino-centric, as I maintain that almost everything invented, almost every event in history can be traced back to China.

For example, the Beatles-

They wrote Songs.

Song is an Imperial Dynasty of China.

China.

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Postby Arlenton » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:52 pm

The Siverian Republic wrote:
Arlenton wrote:If it's not Afro-centric, it is 100% racist, bigot.

I am of African Descent, so im not racist nor a bigot. Im sure many of the people here that voted racist had no other option to choose from.

Then you are a traitor to your own race. You are basically a white male right now.

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Postby Kar-Esseria » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:53 pm

The Siverian Republic wrote:
Arlenton wrote:If it's not Afro-centric, it is 100% racist, bigot.

I am of African Descent, so im not racist nor a bigot. Im sure many of the people here that voted racist had no other option to choose from.


I voted racist despite the fact I'm a egalitarian.

If accepting the history that we know is true and proven makes me racist, then I'll embrace the label. I'd rather be labelled a racist than a historical revisionist.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:53 pm

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Farnhamia wrote:First, knock it off with the picspam. Secondly, and this goes for everyone, if you think someone is trolling, report it in Moderation. Troll-naming is itself a warnable offense in these parts.

...you are on a clearly troll thread and don't do anything about it?

How is it trolling? The Afro-Centric view of history has been around for quite a while. Proposing it isn't trolling. Yes, I'm giving a little leeway in the matter of "if you don't agree you're racist" but just a little. Presenting an unpopular idea is not trolling.
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Postby The Siverian Republic » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:53 pm

Arlenton wrote:
The Siverian Republic wrote:I am of African Descent, so im not racist nor a bigot. Im sure many of the people here that voted racist had no other option to choose from.

Then you are a traitor to your own race. You are basically a white male right now.

What????? I think not. That is so wrong!
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Postby Arlenton » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:53 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:I am a proud racist, sexist, homophobe.

Wow...

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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:54 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:I am a proud racist, sexist, homophobe.


Racist against whom, sexist against whom, and homophobic against whom.

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Postby NeuPolska » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:54 pm

Kar-Esseria wrote:
NeuPolska wrote:Hey, Kar! Never thought I'd see you in NSG


I actually frequent it quite regularly.

In particular, this post enraged me at it's very sight. I am a total history buff/geek/nerd, I love the subject of history and am always willing to learn more about it. I'd describe myself as a amateur historian.

And that is why this is so unsightly to me. There is nothing in this world I despise more than historical revisionism. Lies trying to be fed as truth, trying to deceive people into rethinking the history that we know is true, the history we have proven and known for years. It absolutely disgusts me, whats worse is when it's nonsensical, racist, bullshit like this.

Then I guess this is the one time we've been on the same thread at the same time.

But yeah, I agree with you, just not with as much conviction.

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Postby Benuty » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:54 pm

Arlenton wrote:
The Siverian Republic wrote:I am of African Descent, so im not racist nor a bigot. Im sure many of the people here that voted racist had no other option to choose from.

Then you are a traitor to your own race. :eyebrow: You are basically a white male right now.

Why not another type?

Instead of Americana Television default?
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Postby Arlenton » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:54 pm

The Siverian Republic wrote:
Arlenton wrote:Then you are a traitor to your own race. You are basically a white male right now.

What????? I think not. That is so wrong!

Then you are on the wrong side of history.

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Postby The Wolven League » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:54 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:...you are on a clearly troll thread and don't do anything about it?

How is it trolling? The Afro-Centric view of history has been around for quite a while. Proposing it isn't trolling. Yes, I'm giving a little leeway in the matter of "if you don't agree you're racist" but just a little. Presenting an unpopular idea is not trolling.

..how does one not see it as trolling? He literally stated that the Greeks were black and the OP seems very bloggy.
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Postby The Ben Boys » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:54 pm

Apparently I have to come out to my family as a racist. Why does this kind of stuff always happen around Thanksgiving dinners?


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Postby Yedmnrutika Gavr » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:55 pm

i agree to some extent that certain cultural ideas other people have tried to pass off as their own but i can say that isnt the case with elvis. in his interviews he gave credit to african performances and styles as the inspiration for his music. he said, "rock 'n' roll has been around for many years. it used to be called rhythm and blues". furthermore most textbooks and even the most uncitable of sources (wikipedia xd) correctly state the influence for jazz and other types of music as originating from african styles.

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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:55 pm

The Wolven League wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:How is it trolling? The Afro-Centric view of history has been around for quite a while. Proposing it isn't trolling. Yes, I'm giving a little leeway in the matter of "if you don't agree you're racist" but just a little. Presenting an unpopular idea is not trolling.

..how does one not see it as trolling? He literally stated that the Greeks were black and the OP seems very bloggy.


Or, it could be interpreted as a view- one that is wildly ahistorical, and just plain wrong on every level, but still a view being put forth.

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Postby The Liberated Territories » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:55 pm

Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:I am a proud racist, sexist, homophobe.


Racist against whom, sexist against whom, and homophobic against whom.


Against everyone. I believe in equal opportunity for everyone to be insulted.
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Postby Arlenton » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:55 pm

The Wolven League wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:How is it trolling? The Afro-Centric view of history has been around for quite a while. Proposing it isn't trolling. Yes, I'm giving a little leeway in the matter of "if you don't agree you're racist" but just a little. Presenting an unpopular idea is not trolling.

..how does one not see it as trolling? He literally stated that the Greeks were black and the OP seems very bloggy.

The Greeks identified as African-American. Does that go against your bigoted conservative views or something?
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