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Postby Equatorial Empire » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:25 pm

The Wolven League wrote:
Equatorial Empire wrote:Did you know that many jews are black? And yes Egyptians were black they are tan now because of foreign invasions by Europeans and Arabs and others. But the ancients didn't call Egypt the "black land " for nothing.

"Black land"

Source.

A minute on Google yields the following:

www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris- ... ent-egypt/

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Postby The Wolven League » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:25 pm

Equatorial Empire wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:"Black land"

Source.

A minute on Google yields the following:

http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/ses ... ent-egypt/

They called it that because of the black mud on the Nile river bank.
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Postby The Hoplitian People » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:26 pm

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Postby The Serbian Empire » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:26 pm

Cybraxia wrote:
Arlenton wrote:You don't need black skin to be African-American, or "black". Just like you don't need female/male genitals to be female/male.

Your'e on the wrong side of history, bigot.


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Postby Ganos Lao » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:26 pm

Why does it even matter that Jesus Christ was black?

God's probably shaking His head (for argument's sake, people), wondering why people are focusing on Christ's skin color rather than His message, you know, the reason for Him coming down to Earth?

But I guess must be "racist" for not buying into what pretty much amounts to "hey, let's be racist back at the guys who were racist towards us lol" like that will actually solve anything. Alas, it's just another shitty philosophy to throw on the shit heap that so many people seem desperate to throw themselves headlong into, just hoping one of 'em will actually work.

Aside from that, the OP clearly doesn't realize that he's too late; NS Summer ended a while ago. Don't get too endeared to him now, fellas. The mods will be here at some point to put an end to him, methinks.
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Postby Equatorial Empire » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:26 pm

Billugslovakc wrote:I'm pretty sure Jesus was of Middle eastern origin, but there is no way he was black, not trying to be offensive or anything, apologies if i am.

Prove that black people didn't used to live in the middle east.

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Postby Turkiistan » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:26 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Turkiistan wrote:According to your sources Jesus is a Jew, which isn't Black.
*boom*

You don't need black skin to be African-American, or "black". Just like you don't need female/male genitals to be female/male.

Your'e on the wrong side of history, bigot.

Actually you need Female gentials to be a Female. That's why your called Female. Thanks for calling me a bigot out of the blue.

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Postby Arana » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:27 pm

Equatorial Empire wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:"Black land"

Source.

A minute on Google yields the following:

http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/ses ... ent-egypt/

Another on wikipedia yields a much better answer:

The ancient Egyptian name of the country was (Couldn't register the symbols), which means black ground or black soil, referring to the fertile black soils of the Nile flood plains, distinct from the deshret (⟨dšṛt⟩), or "red land" of the desert.[20] This name is commonly vocalised as Kemet, but was probably pronounced [kuːmat] in ancient Egyptian.[21] The name is realised as kēme and kēmə in the Coptic stage of the Egyptian language, and appeared in early Greek as Χημία (Khēmía).[22] Another name was ⟨tꜣ-mry⟩ "land of the riverbank".[23] The names of Upper and Lower Egypt were Ta-Sheme'aw (⟨tꜣ-šmꜥw⟩) "sedgeland" and Ta-Mehew (⟨tꜣ mḥw⟩) "northland", respectively.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:27 pm

Equatorial Empire wrote:Many jews are black even to this day.


There are, but that does not mean that the majority of Jews are black or that Jesus was black. He was, more than likely, an Arab or whatever native ethnic group was residing in the Levant at that time.
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Postby Salus Maior » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:27 pm

Arcturus Novus wrote:This OP is making me want to die. Not following the (actually very shaky) idea of afrocentricism does not make one racist. And why the hell would Mary and Jesus be black if they were from Judea? They were ethnically Jewish.

The Wolven League wrote:"Black land"

Source.

An old name for Egypt was Kem'et (km.t). It literally means "black". Though that can also be interpreted to mean fertile, "black" soil, corresponding with the ancient Egyptian Black Land/Red Land. It's possible that ancient Egyptians were black pre-Arabian invasions and pre-Ptolemy but we have no real way of knowing this.


How about their own paintings?

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Postby Luxew » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:27 pm

Ganos Lao wrote:Why does it even matter that Jesus Christ was black?

God's probably shaking His head (for argument's sake, people), wondering why people are wondering why the heck people are focusing on Christ's skin color rather than His message.

But I must be "racist" for not buying into what pretty much amounts to "hey, let's be racist back at the guys who were racist towards us lol" like that will actually solve anything. Alas, it's just another shitty philosophy to throw on the shit heap that so many people seem desperate to throw themselves headlong into, just hoping one of 'em will actually work.

Aside from that, the OP clearly doesn't realize that he's too late; NS Summer ended a while ago. Don't get too endeared to him now, fellas. The mods will be here at some point to put an end to him, methinks.

Summer doesn't scientifically end until later this month, Ganos :P
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Postby Arlenton » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:28 pm

Cybraxia wrote:
Arlenton wrote:You don't need black skin to be African-American, or "black". Just like you don't need female/male genitals to be female/male.

Your'e on the wrong side of history, bigot.


>Equating "transracialness" to transgender people

*looks at your sig*

Ah, you're one of those people.

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Postby Arcturus Novus » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:28 pm

Equatorial Empire wrote:
Turkiistan wrote:According to your sources Jesus is a Jew, which isn't Black.
*boom*

Many jews are black even to this day.

...what?

Turkiistan wrote:
Arlenton wrote:You don't need black skin to be African-American, or "black". Just like you don't need female/male genitals to be female/male.

Your'e on the wrong side of history, bigot.

Actually you need Female gentials to be a Female. That's why your called Female. Thanks for calling me a bigot out of the blue.

One, I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm. Two, they're right about the genitals thing (even if it was meant as a jest), but this isn't a thread for transgender issues.
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Postby Salus Maior » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:29 pm

Equatorial Empire wrote:
Billugslovakc wrote:I'm pretty sure Jesus was of Middle eastern origin, but there is no way he was black, not trying to be offensive or anything, apologies if i am.

Prove that black people didn't used to live in the middle east.


How about you prove that they did?
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Postby Lavan Tiri » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:29 pm

Equatorial Empire wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:We dismiss your evidence because there is evidence that Europeans have always been white, that Mary and Jesus were Jewish, and that the Egyptians were not completely black, they were usually tan.

Did you know that many jews are black? And yes Egyptians were black they are tan now because of foreign invasions by Europeans and Arabs and others. But the ancients didn't call Egypt the "black land " for nothing.


No, they most certainly didn't. Egypt was in, old times, called "the black land", because when the Nile floods, it deposits lots and lots of fertile, dark soil on the banks, making the land very arable to the decidedly not black people who lived there.

Please, check your facts. Then, check that you actually know what said facts are.
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Postby Arlenton » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:29 pm

Turkiistan wrote:
Arlenton wrote:You don't need black skin to be African-American, or "black". Just like you don't need female/male genitals to be female/male.

Your'e on the wrong side of history, bigot.

Actually you need Female gentials to be a Female. That's why your called Female. Thanks for calling me a bigot out of the blue.

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Postby Mesrane » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:29 pm

Equatorial Empire wrote:
Billugslovakc wrote:I'm pretty sure Jesus was of Middle eastern origin, but there is no way he was black, not trying to be offensive or anything, apologies if i am.

Prove that black people didn't used to live in the middle east.

You sir, have a problem.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:30 pm

Turkiistan wrote:
Arlenton wrote:You don't need black skin to be African-American, or "black". Just like you don't need female/male genitals to be female/male.

Your'e on the wrong side of history, bigot.

Actually you need Female gentials to be a Female. That's why your called Female. Thanks for calling me a bigot out of the blue.

So a post-op transwoman is female but pre-op are not?
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Postby Rock Lobsters » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:31 pm

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Turkiistan wrote:Actually you need Female gentials to be a Female. That's why your called Female. Thanks for calling me a bigot out of the blue.

Go back to stormfront!

I think he was talking about actual Sex, not the Gender thing. FFS, why is the LGBT thing so damned confusing.
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Postby Lavan Tiri » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:32 pm

Equatorial Empire wrote:
Billugslovakc wrote:I'm pretty sure Jesus was of Middle eastern origin, but there is no way he was black, not trying to be offensive or anything, apologies if i am.

Prove that black people didn't used to live in the middle east.


Prove that Greeks are black.

And that because black people live in the Mid-East, means Christ was automatically black.
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Postby The Greater Lebanon » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:32 pm

Equatorial Empire wrote:
Billugslovakc wrote:I'm pretty sure Jesus was of Middle eastern origin, but there is no way he was black, not trying to be offensive or anything, apologies if i am.

Prove that black people didn't used to live in the middle east.


Black people surley did come into the Middle East especially during the Arab slave trade, their descendants today are called the Zenj but they are mixed Afro-Semetic and are very small in percentage, they had a slave revolt during the abbasid period but were defeated.

Hebrews, Phoenicians, Canaanites, Amorites, Arameans, Assyrians, Babylonians, chaldeans were never ever black. Even that pathetic argument that Carthage was black is failed, Carthage was led by a semetic elite, yes it had many black African soldiers and sailors but it always identified as Semite.
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Postby ConnorR » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:32 pm

Cybraxia wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:Are you saying Jesus, Mary, the Europeans, and Greeks and Egyptians were black?

Is this guy trolling or serious?


Poe's law is in full effect. I've seen people like this, and some were trolling, and others weren't.

Jesus and Mary were not black, they were Jewish. Europeans were always white, as were the Greeks. The Egyptians at the very least could be a mix of races, as they are in North Africa.

There is a case to be made that mary and joseph were semites, which is closer to modern arabs than whites, and many jews were expelled. Hence why jews appear more white now adays, when previously they were darker. Still not black and OP is still a fool.
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Postby NeuPolska » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:32 pm

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Turkiistan wrote:Actually you need Female gentials to be a Female. That's why your called Female. Thanks for calling me a bigot out of the blue.

So a post-op transwoman is female but pre-op are not?

Seems about right, that would match the general definition of female. You may be female mentally but you're not actually female until you have the parts to boot.

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Postby Nordonovik » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:33 pm

Hold your suspense, it gets even better with such fantastical claims in history as:

* That black Egyptians (Nubians) constructed all of the pyramids through telekinesis, had the power to fly and harnessed electricity
* Claiming the ancient Kenyans had calculated the speed of light
* That Africans traveled to the Aztec Empire and enlightened them
*That the Vikings, Queen Elizabeth I, Hannibal, and Cleopatra were black
* That the Romans and Greeks were taught everything they knew by Sub-Saharan Africans
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Postby Free Wexford » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:33 pm

So because there were some black people in the middle east. All the important figures through out history must have been black? That would make you racist for believing the black people are more likely to do good things than white people. The only racist here is yourself. Bigotry knows no race and you proof it.
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