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Postby Staythefout » Fri Sep 18, 2015 9:05 pm

I'd have mccain win in 08. 8)
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Postby Jacobania » Fri Sep 18, 2015 9:11 pm

I would've taught Homo Erectus how to read and write.
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Postby Forum-Rper » Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:29 pm

Make it so Incest is required by the Constitution of America.

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Postby Finland SSR » Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:43 pm

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Postby Arenthian Dominion » Sat Sep 19, 2015 12:39 am

If I could change one thing about history, i'd likely have made it so the British Empire never declined, thus never collapsing. The Empire would still exist today.
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Postby L Ron Cupboard » Sat Sep 19, 2015 12:51 am

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Postby Meryuma » Sat Sep 19, 2015 1:16 am

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iirc 500-800 was a "dark age", but not in an emotionally negative sense. Rather, it was a dark age in that literacy was low, and as such we're "in the dark" about what was happening then.

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Postby Old Tyrannia » Sat Sep 19, 2015 4:33 am

I'd probably refrain from changing history at all, for fear of inadvertently making everything worse. In the spirit of the thread, however, I'd like to make it so that King Charles I won the English Civil War, or better yet was able to come to some sort of agreement with Parliament so that the war never actually happens.
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Postby Wolfmanne2 » Sat Sep 19, 2015 4:45 am

Conscentia wrote:
Protestant England and Germany wrote:I'd prevent the Rwandan Genocide

I'm surprised that you are literally the first person to the say that.

My Dad always like to go on about how he was at business conference that proclaimed Rwanda to be the 'Switzerland of Africa'. Two weeks before the genocide. How Rwanda could had been different had the genocide not have occurred.

Old Tyrannia wrote:I'd probably refrain from changing history at all, for fear of inadvertently making everything worse. In the spirit of the thread, however, I'd like to make it so that King Charles I won the English Civil War, or better yet was able to come to some sort of agreement with Parliament so that the war never actually happens.

Hmm, the stuff I could do with English history.

Personally, if I had to alter English history, I'd allow a plot to seat Mary, Queen of Scots, on the throne of England, to succeed. It would be interesting to see how a unified Catholic England and Scotland would had proceeded. Granted a civil war would follow, but all that would change is that the English Civil War will have occurred far earlier than it did and that it would be more religious in nature.
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Postby Conscentia » Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:23 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:I'd probably refrain from changing history at all, for fear of inadvertently making everything worse. In the spirit of the thread, however, I'd like to make it so that King Charles I won the English Civil War, or better yet was able to come to some sort of agreement with Parliament so that the war never actually happens.

You could just say that'd you reverse what you did if it isn't a net improvement.

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Postby Genivaria » Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:44 am

Wolfmanne2 wrote:
Conscentia wrote:I'm surprised that you are literally the first person to the say that.

My Dad always like to go on about how he was at business conference that proclaimed Rwanda to be the 'Switzerland of Africa'. Two weeks before the genocide. How Rwanda could had been different had the genocide not have occurred.

Old Tyrannia wrote:I'd probably refrain from changing history at all, for fear of inadvertently making everything worse. In the spirit of the thread, however, I'd like to make it so that King Charles I won the English Civil War, or better yet was able to come to some sort of agreement with Parliament so that the war never actually happens.

Hmm, the stuff I could do with English history.

Personally, if I had to alter English history, I'd allow a plot to seat Mary, Queen of Scots, on the throne of England, to succeed. It would be interesting to see how a unified Catholic England and Scotland would had proceeded. Granted a civil war would follow, but all that would change is that the English Civil War will have occurred far earlier than it did and that it would be more religious in nature.

I'd have someone a bit less extreme then Cromwell become leader of the Commonwealth.

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Postby The Wolven League » Sat Sep 19, 2015 10:54 am

Genivaria wrote:
Wolfmanne2 wrote:My Dad always like to go on about how he was at business conference that proclaimed Rwanda to be the 'Switzerland of Africa'. Two weeks before the genocide. How Rwanda could had been different had the genocide not have occurred.


Hmm, the stuff I could do with English history.

Personally, if I had to alter English history, I'd allow a plot to seat Mary, Queen of Scots, on the throne of England, to succeed. It would be interesting to see how a unified Catholic England and Scotland would had proceeded. Granted a civil war would follow, but all that would change is that the English Civil War will have occurred far earlier than it did and that it would be more religious in nature.

I'd have someone a bit less extreme then Cromwell become leader of the Commonwealth.

A liberal democracy in the middle ages is something of a fantasy of mine.

That sounds highly implausible, but whatever :/
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Postby Conscentia » Sat Sep 19, 2015 11:57 am

Genivaria wrote:I'd have someone a bit less extreme then Cromwell become leader of the Commonwealth.

A liberal democracy in the middle ages is something of a fantasy of mine.

Perhaps in a city-state it'd be achievable, but without rapid travel or telecommunication maintaining a liberal democracy in the Medieval Period across a whole nation-state would be very difficult and perhaps infeasible.

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Postby The Hobbesian Metaphysician » Sat Sep 19, 2015 11:58 am

The Wolven League wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I'd have someone a bit less extreme then Cromwell become leader of the Commonwealth.

A liberal democracy in the middle ages is something of a fantasy of mine.

That sounds highly implausible, but whatever :/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Marino

Better than most of the "serene republics" of the time.
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Postby The Greater Lebanon » Sat Sep 19, 2015 2:25 pm

Space exploration would have continued even more after the American Apollo landings.
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Postby The Wolven League » Sat Sep 19, 2015 3:39 pm

The Greater Lebanon wrote:Space exploration would have continued even more after the American Apollo landings.

Which would waste most government funds on such projects.
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Postby The Hobbesian Metaphysician » Sat Sep 19, 2015 3:48 pm

The Wolven League wrote:
The Greater Lebanon wrote:Space exploration would have continued even more after the American Apollo landings.

Which would waste most government funds on such projects.

Still more efficient than what we get out of funding our public education.
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Postby The Greater Lebanon » Sat Sep 19, 2015 5:25 pm

The Wolven League wrote:
The Greater Lebanon wrote:Space exploration would have continued even more after the American Apollo landings.

Which would waste most government funds on such projects.


You dont think that the U.S. Should have continued? Sure it is an American program but really in the end it benefits all mankind. I always thought that pushing further into space was better on the long term for us humans. Whether it was the Russians or Americans or whoever.

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Postby Kahrdinuhlpuhf » Sat Sep 19, 2015 6:19 pm

Erase ash'ari thinking from existence.
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Postby Rusozak » Sat Sep 19, 2015 6:38 pm

I would have Poland, not Russia, become Eastern Europe's dominant power. Finally, Poland can into space.
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Postby Librica » Sat Sep 19, 2015 6:46 pm

Rusozak wrote:I would have Poland, not Russia, become Eastern Europe's dominant power. Finally, Poland can into space.
Did you the whole thing?

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Postby The Princes of the Universe » Sat Sep 19, 2015 6:52 pm

Rusozak wrote:I would have Poland, not Russia, become Eastern Europe's dominant power. Finally, Poland can into space.

What would you change to make this possible though?
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Postby Sun Wukong » Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:04 pm

The Princes of the Universe wrote:
Rusozak wrote:I would have Poland, not Russia, become Eastern Europe's dominant power. Finally, Poland can into space.

What would you change to make this possible though?

Kazan annexes Muscovy.

Mostly because "Kazan" is a cool name.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:05 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:
The Princes of the Universe wrote:What would you change to make this possible though?

Kazan annexes Muscovy.

Mostly because "Kazan" is a cool name.

It's no Nogai.

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Postby Sun Wukong » Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:10 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:Kazan annexes Muscovy.

Mostly because "Kazan" is a cool name.

It's no Nogai.

Does anyone else find it hilarious that the Muscovite Flag is literally killing the Kazan standard?

That's an impressive bit of spite when you say, "we hate this country so much we're putting murdering them on our flag."
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