Whitesplaining

[USS Monitor]

racial privilege? whitesplaining? u sound really butthurt and actually arrogant. many of the rights u have today are the direct result of non-africans choosing to march with mlk and a mostly "white" legislative body. it was in fact necessary and you are disgracing their sacrifice to say otherwise. that truth might sound condescending but at least indiscriminate.

That wasn't a helpful thing to post.

[Hyfling]

Which potential supports? You?
Cuz idk about you but it seems like what BLM did was successful in getting Bernie to talk about race and address the issues of the black demographic. That's victory, man.

1 step forward, 2 steps back.

[West Dixieland]

Only if I make blacksplaining a thing. For when I want to discredit someone's opinion on race alone.

[USS Monitor]

It is what you said. Telling people not to open fire with a machine gun is telling them how to conduct themselves.

Because using aggressive language is equivalent to slaughtering people.

Both are part of how people conduct themselves, and you didn't specify which you were talking about.

[Mavorpen]

Only if I make blacksplaining a thing. For when I want to discredit someone's opinion on race alone.

I doubt anyone's going to lose sleep over not discussing race with you.

[Hyfling]

Which potential supports? You?
Cuz idk about you but it seems like what BLM did was successful in getting Bernie to talk about race and address the issues of the black demographic. That's victory, man.

Right?

Like, seriously, the only people I've seen "turned away" from the BLM movement were people who were already against it.

Just seems to me support for BLM on this forum has declined markedly since the Sanders incident.

[USS Monitor]

It is what you said. Telling people not to open fire with a machine gun is telling them how to conduct themselves.

How about in the case where you are segregated and forced into ghettos in your own countries?

It might be justified depending on the conditions in the ghettos and how strictly enforced the segregation is, but PS didn't specify the severity of oppression he was talking about. My example of shooting up a mall because you don't like the security guards is entirely consistent with what he said, even if it's not what he had in mind.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

And they would probably know even less about how it works in the U.S.

If they're American originally? Or if they've been in the US for a long time?

Telling someone else, "That doesn't happen to you people," is not kosher, but talking about how to handle a particular form of discrimination when it is something you've had to deal with yourself is entirely reasonable, even if you aren't the same race and it didn't happen to you in the same place. Same as it's wrong for white people to tell black people what does or doesn't happen to them in the US, it's wrong to tell a white person they have no relevant experience just on the basis of their race without asking about their background. In both cases you're telling someone that you know more about their own life than they do.

Let's say a white man goes into some country with a reverse apartheid system. They have white people ghettoized, white people can intermarry with the exploiting race, white people are deprived of any gainful economic opportunity, white people are forced to learn the language of their oppressor, etc.

The white fella comes back to America, and tells people about his experience in that country. Does that mean he is an expert on all form of racial oppression, that he can speak about it in every instance- no, it really doesn't, because however horribly he suffers in that bizzarro country, his experience only permits him to speak about what happens in that country, the oppression of white people there, whereas he has no idea how black people are being oppressed here. So, let's say he makes the ignorant comment, 'I know discrimination, I've been to X country, and black people aren't oppressed in any way.' Having been away, and see a form of discrimination, he has no reason to be speaking about discrimination and oppression as it is practice here, another form.

[Geilinor]

If that's what they were trying to do, they did a pretty crap job of it.

Unless turning potential supporters away from their movement was the goal?

Perhaps this may be enlightening.

BLM won't be getting my support after recent events like that and the "pigs in a blanket".

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Only if I make blacksplaining a thing. For when I want to discredit someone's opinion on race alone.

The Confederate battle standard in your flag really makes your views on racial issues raaaather obvious... at least, easy to assume.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Perhaps this may be enlightening.

BLM won't be getting my support after recent events like that and the "pigs in a blanket".

Didn't know about that second one. Lulz. Good stuff.

[Tafhan]

So, you can't possibly understand a concept rooted in another culture because of the color of your skin? Bullshit.

[Geilinor]

BLM won't be getting my support after recent events like that and the "pigs in a blanket".

Didn't know about that second one. Lulz. Good stuff.

http://www.startribune.com/pigs-in-a-blanket-chant-at-minnesota-fair-riles-police/323479961/

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

How about in the case where you are segregated and forced into ghettos in your own countries?

It might be justified depending on the conditions in the ghettos and how strictly enforced the segregation is, but PS didn't specify the severity of oppression he was talking about. My example of shooting up a mall because you don't like the security guards is entirely consistent with what he said, even if it's not what he had in mind.

I don't know PS, with hir suspiciously Teutonic name, but I am going to guess that hir argument would be that the guard isn't oppressing you, he is just protecting valuables in the mall against any threat. That there are legal avenues if the guard is, in fact, harassing you. Et cetera.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Didn't know about that second one. Lulz. Good stuff.

http://www.startribune.com/pigs-in-a-blanket-chant-at-minnesota-fair-riles-police/323479961/

Yeah, I looked it up. That's pretty amusing.

[USS Monitor]

Only if I make blacksplaining a thing. For when I want to discredit someone's opinion on race alone.

It makes perfect sense for "blacksplaining" to be a word, but I don't trust you to use it responsibly. You'll probably just whip it out every time a black person has an opinion, even if they're talking about their own experience or telling you something backed by statistical evidence.

[Geilinor]

http://www.startribune.com/pigs-in-a-blanket-chant-at-minnesota-fair-riles-police/323479961/

Yeah, I looked it up. That's pretty amusing.

Sure, we'll see how amusing that is when someone kills a police officer - like some individuals have.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

So, you can't possibly understand a concept rooted in another culture because of the color of your skin? Bullshit.

The argument seems to be that you can't fully understand the experience of another race if you have never had that experience, and, therefore, have no basis on which to present to that race their own experience, rather, it makes that race silent by making having a member of the oppressing race speak for them, to them, tell them how they really are, etc.

[Salus Maior]

I believe the person that isn't reading is you.

There is no historical precedent to indicate superiority of the Caucasian race. Prior to the conquests of Gengis Khan and his successors, Middle-Eastern and Asian cultures were technologically and intellectually dominant. Europeans were simply the only ones left standing afterwards to fill the massive power vacuum.

And for the record, don't presume Marxism based on the fact that someone pointed out you're racist. It's terribly unprofessional.

It's not unprofessional, it's a known fact by those who haven't been brainwashed by Marxism or Cuckservatism. Remember the British, French and Spanish Empires? Yeah fucking beat the shit out of every native they saw. Thanks to S U P E R I O R T E C H N O L O G Y

Which was invented by other, non white cultures. Namely the Chinese.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Yeah, I looked it up. That's pretty amusing.

Sure, we'll see how amusing that is when someone kills a police officer - like some individuals have.

You do realize I am an anarchist, Geil?

[West Dixieland]

Only if I make blacksplaining a thing. For when I want to discredit someone's opinion on race alone.

The Confederate battle standard in your flag really makes your views on racial issues raaaather obvious... at least, easy to assume.

Honestly now, I'm only proud of my home region.
I absolutely do not judge based on ethnicity, merely culture and character.
But hell if I can talk, that'd be whitesplaining.

[Redsection]

Only if I make blacksplaining a thing. For when I want to discredit someone's opinion on race alone.

The Confederate battle standard in your flag really makes your views on racial issues raaaather obvious... at least, easy to assume.

and that my kids is called a stereotype.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

It's not unprofessional, it's a known fact by those who haven't been brainwashed by Marxism or Cuckservatism. Remember the British, French and Spanish Empires? Yeah fucking beat the shit out of every native they saw. Thanks to S U P E R I O R T E C H N O L O G Y

Which was invented by other, non white cultures. Namely the Chinese.

No, let's give credit where credit is due- the Europeans were able to make use of Chinese technology and provide critical innovations to make them effective as they were...partially because the rest of the world was busy trying to fend off the Mongols.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

The Confederate battle standard in your flag really makes your views on racial issues raaaather obvious... at least, easy to assume.

Honestly now, I'm only proud of my home region.
I absolutely do not judge based on ethnicity, merely culture and character.
But hell if I can talk, that'd be whitesplaining.

A white person talking is not necessarily whitesplaining.

I'm a Southern white without a Confederate battle standard in my flag, as well.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

The Confederate battle standard in your flag really makes your views on racial issues raaaather obvious... at least, easy to assume.

and that my kids is called a stereotype.

Eh... I wouldn't really call it a stereotype. Like, if you see someone waving an American flag, you can assume they're pro-America, right? Yeah.