Whitesplaining

[Jochistan]

Why do racists always think that the White race is not only superior, but perpetually imperilled by the most trivial things.

Calling me out on my racism...quick, protect our purest of pure Aryan blood!

I take offence at you calling me a racist

We get so many white nationalist/separatist/confederate/internalized racists here during the summer, it's hard to differentiate, at this point.

Calling every far right poster a stormfront user is the same as calling all far left posters communists. It's a dumb generalisation.

Not a marxist myself, but people call lefties tumblr users and libtards or libfags all the fuckin time. it's not really much better.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

No, they don't. These definitely not made up claims don't make you not racist either, interestingly enough.

That's my point. I was accused of being a racist, just because I have a problem with a culture that endorses criminal and offensive activity. That just coincidentally happens to be dominated by a particular race. That doesn't make someone a racist.

And if you think it's made up, go live in Detroit or Central Illinois for a few months.

Where do racist keep finding their black friends?

As to whether your problem with "a culture of offensiveness and criminality" which "happens to coincide with and be dominated by the culture of a race"- yes, yes it does mean that you are a racist.

[Librica (Ancient)]

That's my point. I was accused of being a racist, just because I have a problem with a culture that endorses criminal and offensive activity.

No, you weren't.

That just coincidentally happens to be dominated by a particular race. That doesn't make someone a racist.

Of course it does.

And if you think it's made up, go live in Detroit or Central Illinois for a few months.

No thanks, I'd rather not pack up my stuff for something as useless as entertaining a racist's ramblings about how degenerate black people are.

1. Actually I was. If you read the first response to my original post.

2. No. It doesn't. Culture =/= Race.

3. Black people are not degenerate. A large group within the race is choosing to act this way. It's not some mental defect like you make it sound.

[Mavorpen]

That's my point. I was accused of being a racist, just because I have a problem with a culture that endorses criminal and offensive activity. That just coincidentally happens to be dominated by a particular race. That doesn't make someone a racist.

And if you think it's made up, go live in Detroit or Central Illinois for a few months.

Where do racist keep finding their black friends?

As to whether your problem with "a culture of offensiveness and criminality" which "happens to coincide with and be dominated by the culture of a race"- yes, yes it does mean that you are a racist.

They go to Wal Mart and rent them from the "Civilized Black People" section.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

That's my point. I was accused of being a racist, just because I have a problem with a culture that endorses criminal and offensive activity. That just coincidentally happens to be dominated by a particular race. That doesn't make someone a racist.

And if you think it's made up, go live in Detroit or Central Illinois for a few months.

I live in South L.A. Close enough?

Lowest crime rate of any large city in this union.

[Mavorpen]

1. Actually I was. If you read the first response to my original post.

Which one, mine? Because, I didn't do that.

2. No. It doesn't. Culture =/= Race.

You were the one who made the explicit and conscious decision to tie race into it. You don't get to separate them upon your racism being exposed.

3. Black people are not degenerate.

What massive backpedaling there.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

That's my point. I was accused of being a racist, just because I have a problem with a culture that endorses criminal and offensive activity.

No, you weren't.

And there you go.

If you automatically assume people are going to call you a racist... well, mayhaps you should have a good little spell of introversion.

[Librica (Ancient)]

That's my point. I was accused of being a racist, just because I have a problem with a culture that endorses criminal and offensive activity. That just coincidentally happens to be dominated by a particular race. That doesn't make someone a racist.

And if you think it's made up, go live in Detroit or Central Illinois for a few months.

Where do racist keep finding their black friends?

As to whether your problem with "a culture of offensiveness and criminality" which "happens to coincide with and be dominated by the culture of a race"- yes, yes it does mean that you are a racist.

US Navy. Oh and my Wife's ex-supervisor who is living with us.

As I said, having an issue with a culture has nothing to do with race. If ALL black people followed this culture, it would be racist. But since ALL black people do not follow this culture it is therefore NOT RACIST.

[Washington Resistance Army]

No, they don't. These definitely not made up claims don't make you not racist either, interestingly enough.

That's my point. I was accused of being a racist, just because I have a problem with a culture that endorses criminal and offensive activity. That just coincidentally happens to be dominated by a particular race. That doesn't make someone a racist.

And if you think it's made up, go live in Detroit or Central Illinois for a few months.

That "culture" you seem to be on about is called poverty, funny how people with nothing turn to crime more than other groups. Before you go on telling me to go to either of those places I've been to the Wild Hundreds multiple times.

[Mavorpen]

Where do racist keep finding their black friends?

As to whether your problem with "a culture of offensiveness and criminality" which "happens to coincide with and be dominated by the culture of a race"- yes, yes it does mean that you are a racist.

US Navy. Oh and my Wife's ex-supervisor who is living with us.

As I said, having an issue with a culture has nothing to do with race. If ALL black people followed this culture, it would be racist. But since ALL black people do not follow this culture it is therefore NOT RACIST.

You can't tell us it has nothing to do with race when you made the explicit goal to tie this "culture" with black people, and then tried to mitigate it and convince us you aren't racist by saying "but don't worry, it isn't ALL black people."

[Eastern Equestria]

Sure, we'll see how amusing that is when someone kills a police officer - like some individuals have.

You do realize I am an anarchist, Geil?

Yeah, not really an excuse for openly referring to the celebration of a cold-blooded murder case as "amusing" and "good stuff".

No, they don't. These definitely not made up claims don't make you not racist either, interestingly enough.

That's my point. I was accused of being a racist, just because I have a problem with a culture that endorses criminal and offensive activity. That just coincidentally happens to be dominated by a particular race. That doesn't make someone a racist.

I love how you seem to believe that this "culture" of people embracing the only opportunities they were given sprung out of nowhere, and that black people's problems would all go away if they just dropped it.

[Librica (Ancient)]

No, you weren't.

And there you go.

If you automatically assume people are going to call you a racist... well, mayhaps you should have a good little spell of introversion.

It's from personal experience. I've worked with a lot of blacks in the last 3ish years. At one point this subject had actually come up when a worker approached me and asked why I thought white people enslaved the blacks. I responded that it doesn't matter anymore, because we're equals and that race is irrelevant. He started talking about police brutality and white on black racism and such. So I went on to talk about the offensive "culture". His response was like yours. "omg your a racist blah blah blah".

The reality is, that it IS causing an issue for blacks everywhere. Even the ones who don't follow this culture who have to deal with the consequences it leaves in it destructive wake.

Is it a race issue? No. Racism is an issue with a race in general. Not the culture it follows. If your black, and you have a job and are a decent well mannered citizen then you may as well be my best friend. If you sell drugs and have shoot outs in your drive way, then yeah I have a problem with you.

[The Black Forrest]

That's my point. I was accused of being a racist, just because I have a problem with a culture that endorses criminal and offensive activity. That just coincidentally happens to be dominated by a particular race. That doesn't make someone a racist.

And if you think it's made up, go live in Detroit or Central Illinois for a few months.

Where do racist keep finding their black friends?

Five and Dime? 7-11?

[Librica (Ancient)]

US Navy. Oh and my Wife's ex-supervisor who is living with us.

As I said, having an issue with a culture has nothing to do with race. If ALL black people followed this culture, it would be racist. But since ALL black people do not follow this culture it is therefore NOT RACIST.

You can't tell us it has nothing to do with race when you made the explicit goal to tie this "culture" with black people, and then tried to mitigate it and convince us you aren't racist by saying "but don't worry, it isn't ALL black people."

Actually I covered that when I implied that it's not just blacks that follow this culture. It's just dominantly tied to them which is irrelevant except in the matter of it making the ones that aren't apart of it look bad to police and other races.

[Mavorpen]

And there you go.

If you automatically assume people are going to call you a racist... well, mayhaps you should have a good little spell of introversion.

It's from personal experience. I've worked with a lot of blacks in the last 3ish years. At one point this subject had actually come up when a worker approached me and asked why I thought white people enslaved the blacks. I responded that it doesn't matter anymore, because we're equals and that race is irrelevant. He started talking about police brutality and white on black racism and such. So I went on to talk about the offensive "culture". His response was like yours. "omg your a racist blah blah blah"..

That's because you deflected this person's criticisms and arguments about racism with "LOL BLACK PEOPLE AND THEIR SHITTY CRIMINAL CULTURE!" You didn't want to address his argument and instead shifted the blame onto black people, telling us "just shut up and get civilized."

Yeah, if you're going to use the exact same arguments used against abolishing slavery and the civil rights movements, I don't see why you would be surprised at all at being called a racist.

[Mavorpen]

Actually I covered that when I implied that it's not just blacks that follow this culture. It's just dominantly tied to them which is irrelevant except in the matter of it making the ones that aren't apart of it look bad to police and other races.

So basically, it's irrelevant, but it's not really. It has nothing to do with race, except it does.

Come on now, at least own your racism.

[The Black Forrest]

Sure, we'll see how amusing that is when someone kills a police officer - like some individuals have.

You do realize I am an anarchist, Geil?

And that justifies it.....how?

[Librica (Ancient)]

It's from personal experience. I've worked with a lot of blacks in the last 3ish years. At one point this subject had actually come up when a worker approached me and asked why I thought white people enslaved the blacks. I responded that it doesn't matter anymore, because we're equals and that race is irrelevant. He started talking about police brutality and white on black racism and such. So I went on to talk about the offensive "culture". His response was like yours. "omg your a racist blah blah blah"..

That's because you deflected this person's criticisms and arguments about racism with "LOL BLACK PEOPLE AND THEIR SHITTY CRIMINAL CULTURE!" You didn't want to address his argument and instead shifted the blame onto black people, telling us "just shut up and get civilized."

Yeah, if you're going to use the exact same arguments used against abolishing slavery and the civil rights movements, I don't see why you would be surprised at all at being called a racist.

I responded that way because that culture is exactly what is causing the subject of his argument. So I actually did and correctly address his argument.

[Mavorpen]

I responded that way because that culture is exactly what is causing the subject of his argument. So I actually did and correctly address his argument.

No, you didn't. Rather, you made a claim that's a fundamental red herring. Either you're arguing blacks are inherently criminals, or you acknowledge this is bullshit and therefore there is an outside cause for this "culture." In which case, this person provided you with an explanation: racism. And you dodged it.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

Where do racist keep finding their black friends?

As to whether your problem with "a culture of offensiveness and criminality" which "happens to coincide with and be dominated by the culture of a race"- yes, yes it does mean that you are a racist.

US Navy. Oh and my Wife's ex-supervisor who is living with us.

As I said, having an issue with a culture has nothing to do with race. If ALL black people followed this culture, it would be racist. But since ALL black people do not follow this culture it is therefore NOT RACIST.

Culture is a byword for "Race", while still trying to absolve oneself of racism- culture, in this view, can be changed, so you can make the claim "Not all black people..." while making the most racist comments on black people. For example, "I'm not a racist, I am against a culture that promotes buckteeth and slinty-eyed-ness, now not all Asians follow this culture, but I am against a culture that happens to be Asian".

[Librica (Ancient)]

I responded that way because that culture is exactly what is causing the subject of his argument. So I actually did and correctly address his argument.

No, you didn't. Rather, you made a claim that's a fundamental red herring. Either you're arguing blacks are inherently criminals, or you acknowledge this is bullshit and therefore there is an outside cause for this "culture." In which case, this person provided you with an explanation: racism. And you dodged it.

Neither. Your clearly not understanding the difference between culture and race.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

No, you didn't. Rather, you made a claim that's a fundamental red herring. Either you're arguing blacks are inherently criminals, or you acknowledge this is bullshit and therefore there is an outside cause for this "culture." In which case, this person provided you with an explanation: racism. And you dodged it.

Neither. Your clearly not understanding the difference between culture and race.

You are the one that conflates the two, make racist generalisations, then claim that you were only talking about one. You are a racist, own up to it.

[Mavorpen]

No, you didn't. Rather, you made a claim that's a fundamental red herring. Either you're arguing blacks are inherently criminals, or you acknowledge this is bullshit and therefore there is an outside cause for this "culture." In which case, this person provided you with an explanation: racism. And you dodged it.

Neither. Your clearly not understanding the difference between culture and race.

Okay, so then you didn't address the argument. Got it. Let me know when you want to actually debate.

[Librica (Ancient)]

US Navy. Oh and my Wife's ex-supervisor who is living with us.

As I said, having an issue with a culture has nothing to do with race. If ALL black people followed this culture, it would be racist. But since ALL black people do not follow this culture it is therefore NOT RACIST.

Culture is a byword for "Race", while still trying to absolve oneself of racism- culture, in this view, can be changed, so you can make the claim "Not all black people..." while making the most racist comments on black people. For example, "I'm not a racist, I am against a culture that promotes buckteeth and slinty-eyed-ness, now not all Asians follow this culture, but I am against a culture that happens to be Asian".

Culture
1.the arts and other manifestations of human intellectual achievement regarded collectively:

This has nothing to do with race. A white man could adopt this culture and he'd still be white.

[The Black Forrest]

No, you didn't. Rather, you made a claim that's a fundamental red herring. Either you're arguing blacks are inherently criminals, or you acknowledge this is bullshit and therefore there is an outside cause for this "culture." In which case, this person provided you with an explanation: racism. And you dodged it.

Neither. Your clearly not understanding the difference between culture and race.

Now you have my curiosity. What is the difference?