Segregated Bathrooms: A Problem?

[Ashkera]

Well men and women require different things. I've never heard a woman complain that she never gets to use a urinal.

Men don't require urinals.

I think the point was that men don't always require sit-down toilets, so it's more efficient to let them have urinals and not just sit-down toilets.

[Mavorpen]

Oooh boy...with how twisted society has become, I'm sure this'll be law soon.

I suppose sex in public bathrooms will be easier to come across. Or Rape. But it'll be the straight "cisgender" peoples fault, definitely not the Tumblr movement with thousands of odd, weird psychologically influenced sexes that people make up to feel important about themselves.

Alternatively, I'm for *adding* a restroom for those few among the populace with box sexes, but I'd make it so *either* sex can use said restroom since people using it would be at a minimum.

What?

[Ifreann]

I'm all for combined public bathrooms, given that they are not also shower rooms or locker rooms.

It may be possible that if combined shower rooms and locker rooms were legal,

Where are they not legal?

[New Benian Republic]

Sexes and genders are different.

[New Benian Republic]

And why should you slow down one sex because the other takes longer?

[Jamzmania]

Absolutely no reason whatsoever to change it.

[Ifreann]

Absolutely no reason whatsoever to change it.

You choosing to ignore the reasons posted in this thread doesn't mean they don't exist.

[Jamzmania]

Absolutely no reason whatsoever to change it.

You choosing to ignore the reasons posted in this thread doesn't mean they don't exist.

Sorry. No *real* reason to change.

[Ifreann]

You choosing to ignore the reasons posted in this thread doesn't mean they don't exist.

Sorry. No *real* reason to change.

You could just address the reasons people have posted instead of trying to sweep them under the carpet in a single sentence.

[Jamzmania]

Sorry. No *real* reason to change.

You could just address the reasons people have posted instead of trying to sweep them under the carpet in a single sentence.

There reasons are "women take too long so we should force men to wait longer, too." It's not very convincing.

[Herrebrugh]

Sorry. No *real* reason to change.

You could just address the reasons people have posted instead of trying to sweep them under the carpet in a single sentence.

I'd actually love seeing a proper argument against desegretating bathrooms, simply because it'd give me a better reason to support keeping it as it is than "I just like it this way" >.>

[The East Asian Post-Apocalyptic Pact]

Where are they not legal?

Probably Japan http://soumunomori.com/forum/thread/trd-102112/.

[Ifreann]

You could just address the reasons people have posted instead of trying to sweep them under the carpet in a single sentence.

There reasons are "women take too long so we should force men to wait longer, too." It's not very convincing.

And all the other reasons posted in this 31 page thread?

[Jamzmania]

There reasons are "women take too long so we should force men to wait longer, too." It's not very convincing.

And all the other reasons posted in this 31 page thread?

Are also not convincing and/or non-issues. The simple fact is that there is no real reason to change the current system because the current system is fine enough for our purposes.

[The East Asian Post-Apocalyptic Pact]

I'd actually love seeing a proper argument against desegretating bathrooms, simply because it'd give me a better reason to support keeping it as it is than "I just like it this way" >.>

1. Tradition
2. Privacy
3. Some sanitational issues (Men masturbate, contact with women, etc)

You can argue for desegregating bathrooms on those three topics.

[Ifreann]

And all the other reasons posted in this 31 page thread?

Are also not convincing and/or non-issues.

Is this as thorough a refutation as we can expect from you?

[Ifreann]

I'd actually love seeing a proper argument against desegretating bathrooms, simply because it'd give me a better reason to support keeping it as it is than "I just like it this way" >.>

1. Tradition

Appealing to tradition is fallacious.

2. Privacy

A unisex bathroom has just as much privacy as a men's or women's bathroom.

3. Some sanitational issues (Men masturbate, contact with women, etc)

Women also masturbate, and no one should be masturbating in a public bathroom. I don't know what sanitary issue "contact with women" poses.

[The East Asian Post-Apocalyptic Pact]

Appealing to tradition is fallacious.

Citing this website:http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2014/04/11/sex_segregated_public_restrooms_an_outdated_relic_of_victorian_paternalism.html
Seperate sex-bathrooms have been around for a long time in the modern era. Unisex ones would probably have existed for longer, but seem to have been discontinued in the West.

A unisex bathroom has just as much privacy as a men's or women's bathroom.

Possibly true. However, privacy is subjective to many people. Some may be uncomfortable, and may not "get over it" as Dyakovo suggested earlier.

Women also masturbate, and no one should be masturbating in a public bathroom. I don't know what sanitary issue "contact with women" poses.

However, men can't get pregnant from whatever comes from women masturbating. It may be an issue if a women is using a product, such as a tampon, in a semen-contaminated enviroment. (Sorry to be explicit.) Also, people do whatever in the bathroom, and the principle of "no one should be masturbating in a public restroom" isn't followed by everyone.

Still want unisex bathrooms though.

[Herrebrugh]

I'd actually love seeing a proper argument against desegretating bathrooms, simply because it'd give me a better reason to support keeping it as it is than "I just like it this way" >.>

1. Tradition
2. Privacy
3. Some sanitational issues (Men masturbate, contact with women, etc)

You can argue for desegregating bathrooms on those three topics.

Thanks for giving examples of bad arguments, but I was looking for proper ones.

[The East Asian Post-Apocalyptic Pact]

Thanks for giving examples of bad arguments, but I was looking for proper ones.

Always willing to help.

[Ifreann]

Appealing to tradition is fallacious.

Citing this website:http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2014/04/11/sex_segregated_public_restrooms_an_outdated_relic_of_victorian_paternalism.html
Seperate sex-bathrooms have been around for a long time in the modern era. Unisex ones would probably have existed for longer, but seem to have been discontinued in the West.

Appealing to tradition is fallacious.

A unisex bathroom has just as much privacy as a men's or women's bathroom.

Possibly true. However, privacy is subjective to many people. Some may be uncomfortable, and may not "get over it" as Dyakovo suggested earlier.

People being uncomfortable using a bathroom shared by people of other genders does not mean that those bathrooms lack privacy. It just means they're uncomfortable in that situation. Some people are uncomfortable using public bathrooms at all.

Women also masturbate, and no one should be masturbating in a public bathroom. I don't know what sanitary issue "contact with women" poses.

However, men can't get pregnant from whatever comes from women masturbating.
It may be an issue if a women is using a product, such as a tampon, in a semen-contaminated enviroment. (Sorry to be explicit.)

Women aren't going to get pregnant from using a tampon in a bathroom in which a man masturbated. I'm a little surprised that anyone would think that could happen.

Also, people do whatever in the bathroom, and the principle of "no one should be masturbating in a public restroom" isn't followed by everyone.

I'm sure.

[Dyakovo]

You could just address the reasons people have posted instead of trying to sweep them under the carpet in a single sentence.

There reasons are "women take too long so we should force men to wait longer, too." It's not very convincing.

He said "thread" not "OP". Other reasons have been given.

[Dyakovo]

3. Some sanitational issues (Men masturbate, contact with women, etc)

Women also masturbate, and no one should be masturbating in a public bathroom. I don't know what sanitary issue "contact with women" poses.

Cooties
*nods*

[Ifreann]

Women also masturbate, and no one should be masturbating in a public bathroom. I don't know what sanitary issue "contact with women" poses.

Cooties
*nods*

Cooties are serious business.

[Jamzmania]

Are also not convincing and/or non-issues.

Is this as thorough a refutation as we can expect from you?

Perhaps you'd like to reiterate your oh-so-important reasons for tearing down the current, well-established system, a system accepted by the vast majority of people with few real problems that could be fixed by unisex bathrooms?