Segregated Bathrooms: A Problem?

[Alvecia]

Ah, I think I see how this discussion came about now. It wasn't really clear when I read through before.
Nicholia is opposed to unisex bathrooms because he does not believe they are more efficient?

NIcholia argues that we really need 4 or 5 kinds of bathrooms. I can locate the posts if you wish to read them.

He says we need male, female, transgender (also segregated in male and female) and a unisex bathroom. Of course, after, he goes on to say that he doesn't want unisex crowds because A) he sees all women as his mom, and B) he doesn't want anyone looking at his junk while he pees.

[Grand Nicholia]

Rather then sexism I would say it rests in Victorian morals. Time was restrooms where not segregated.

Indeed, I am given to understand that chamber pots and privies were unisex. Which would suggest the segregation originates after the industrial revolution.

Nope.

[Neutraligon]

You would have been better just asking how they did. Now you've made the statement that

I would like to know how you know this.

Well, simply, how is it sexism? It is not, because men are separated from women, so both cant cause harm to each other.

Tell me, where do most attacks happen? In places that are relatively not being used at the time of the attack, right? It is very rare for attacks to occur in heavily trafficked areas, and single unisex restrooms are more likely to be heavily trafficked that separate restrooms. The same holds for two separate restrooms that are unisex (ie restrooms that have simply had their signs changed to unisex). They are more likely to be heavily trafficked because people tend to even out lines (they go to the restroom that is not as heavily used).

Not all places have family restrooms.

But, in heavily trafficked places, more people are there that could join in fights, and start them.

It is worth pointing out that one can't prove a null hypothesis.

Segregated bathrooms can be explained as a symptom of sexism, rather than a cause of it.

You must have a tumblr, don't you?

Again though, until a certain point, more people tends to mean fewer attacks. People tend not to do their crimes where it can be easily witnessed.

[Grand Nicholia]

Ah, I think I see how this discussion came about now. It wasn't really clear when I read through before.
Nicholia is opposed to unisex bathrooms because he does not believe they are more efficient?

NIcholia argues that we really need 4 or 5 kinds of bathrooms. I can locate the posts if you wish to read them.

He says we need male, female, transgender (also segregated in male and female) and a unisex bathroom. Of course, after, he goes on to say that he doesn't want unisex crowds because A) he sees all women as his mom, and B) he doesn't want anyone looking at his junk while he pees.

That is far from the truth. I said AT MAXIMUM, it should FOUR. But, I suggest three.

[Conscentia]

Indeed, I am given to understand that chamber pots and privies were unisex. Which would suggest the segregation originates after the industrial revolution.

Nope.

That is not a refutation of my assertions.

[Neutraligon]

Rather then sexism I would say it rests in Victorian morals. Time was restrooms where not segregated.

As far as I'm aware, chamber pots and privies were unisex. Which would suggest the segregation originates after the industrial revolution.

So where the public restrooms. The roman restroom was apparently a place to socialize and were unisex.

[Conscentia]

It is worth pointing out that one can't prove a null hypothesis.
Segregated bathrooms can be explained as a symptom of sexism, rather than a cause of it.

You must have a tumblr, don't you?

Why would you think that?

[Alvecia]

NIcholia argues that we really need 4 or 5 kinds of bathrooms. I can locate the posts if you wish to read them.

He says we need male, female, transgender (also segregated in male and female) and a unisex bathroom. Of course, after, he goes on to say that he doesn't want unisex crowds because A) he sees all women as his mom, and B) he doesn't want anyone looking at his junk while he pees.

That is far from the truth. I said AT MAXIMUM, it should FOUR. But, I suggest three.

Buuut, 3 or 4 would be more inefficient. And now I've brought it full circle, [sarc] excellent. [/sarc]
At least I understand your point now. Disagree? Certainly. But understand.

[Italios]

NIcholia argues that we really need 4 or 5 kinds of bathrooms. I can locate the posts if you wish to read them.

He says we need male, female, transgender (also segregated in male and female) and a unisex bathroom. Of course, after, he goes on to say that he doesn't want unisex crowds because A) he sees all women as his mom, and B) he doesn't want anyone looking at his junk while he pees.

Hey, I don't want anyone looking at me while I pee, either, regardless of gender. All I want in a public bathroom is cleanliness, space, and separate stalls.

[Grand Nicholia]

Well, simply, how is it sexism? It is not, because men are separated from women, so both cant cause harm to each other.

But, in heavily trafficked places, more people are there that could join in fights, and start them.

You must have a tumblr, don't you?

Again though, until a certain point, more people tends to mean fewer attacks. People tend not to do their crimes where it can be easily witnessed.

But, people sometimes cannot control their sick urges.

[Alvecia]

Again though, until a certain point, more people tends to mean fewer attacks. People tend not to do their crimes where it can be easily witnessed.

But, people sometimes cannot control their sick urges.

Which would be more noticeable in a unisex bathroom with more traffic.

[Alvecia]

Hey, I don't want anyone looking at me while I pee, either, regardless of gender. All I want in a public bathroom is cleanliness, space, and separate stalls.

I think it was A) that threw me off mostly.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

That is far from the truth. I said AT MAXIMUM, it should FOUR. But, I suggest three.

Buuut, 3 or 4 would be more inefficient. And now I've brought it full circle, [sarc] excellent. [/sarc]
At least I understand your point now. Disagree? Certainly. But understand.

There you have it. Really, if you search this thread for his posts, you're either going to laugh at the stupid ideas or facepalm.

[Conscentia]

Hey, I don't want anyone looking at me while I pee, either, regardless of gender. All I want in a public bathroom is cleanliness, space, and separate stalls.

I concur.

[Grand Nicholia]

That is far from the truth. I said AT MAXIMUM, it should FOUR. But, I suggest three.

Buuut, 3 or 4 would be more inefficient. And now I've brought it full circle, [sarc] excellent. [/sarc]
At least I understand your point now. Disagree? Certainly. But understand.

Well, welcome to the thread. What can I get you? Water, over sensitive liberal tea, or way too religous nut soup? You will need, as you are stuck in this thread till 500 pages.

[Alvecia]

Buuut, 3 or 4 would be more inefficient. And now I've brought it full circle, [sarc] excellent. [/sarc]
At least I understand your point now. Disagree? Certainly. But understand.

There you have it. Really, if you search this thread for his posts, you're either going to laugh at the stupid ideas or facepalm.

I suspect the last two pages of his posts alone would be math.

[Grand Nicholia]

Buuut, 3 or 4 would be more inefficient. And now I've brought it full circle, [sarc] excellent. [/sarc]
At least I understand your point now. Disagree? Certainly. But understand.

There you have it. Really, if you search this thread for his posts, you're either going to laugh at the stupid ideas or facepalm.

And if you look at their posts, you will just laugh or wonder how many times they were dropped on their head.

[Alvecia]

Buuut, 3 or 4 would be more inefficient. And now I've brought it full circle, [sarc] excellent. [/sarc]
At least I understand your point now. Disagree? Certainly. But understand.

Well, welcome to the thread. What can I get you? Water, over sensitive liberal tea, or way too religous nut soup? You will need, as you are stuck in this thread till 500 pages.

What point are you trying to make?

[Conscentia]

There you have it. Really, if you search this thread for his posts, you're either going to laugh at the stupid ideas or facepalm.

I suspect the last two pages of his posts alone would be math.

NS doesn't require you to suspect. You can read every post anyone has ever failed to delete like some sort of wierdo-stalker.
search.php?author_id=652378&sr=posts

... not much maths by the way.

[Dyakovo]

I would like to know how you know this.

It is worth pointing out that one can't prove a null hypothesis.

Segregated bathrooms can be explained as a symptom of sexism, rather than a cause of it.

Yup. Personally, I wouldn't say that segregated restrooms cause sexism. It can, however, be argued that they reinforce it.

[Val Halla]

There you have it. Really, if you search this thread for his posts, you're either going to laugh at the stupid ideas or facepalm.

And if you look at their posts, you will just laugh or wonder how many times they were dropped on their head.

So disagreeing with you means you aren't intelligent?

Way to debate

[Grand Nicholia]

It is worth pointing out that one can't prove a null hypothesis.

Segregated bathrooms can be explained as a symptom of sexism, rather than a cause of it.

Yup. Personally, I wouldn't say that segregated restrooms cause sexism. It can, however, be argued that they reinforce it.

Really, what proof is there that has anything to do with sexism?

[Alvecia]

There you have it. Really, if you search this thread for his posts, you're either going to laugh at the stupid ideas or facepalm.

And if you look at their posts, you will just laugh or wonder how many times they were dropped on their head.

That seems unnecessarily insulting.

[Dyakovo]

Honestly, because I did a tax planning strategy for a convention center one time, I had a copy of the contractor's notes. He used 3 minutes as an average in the stall (5 minutes in the bathroom) to justify the number of bathrooms given the amount of seating in the facility.

I have no idea if that's universal. It's just the only number I had.

In any case, whether it's 1 minute or 3 minutes or 40 minutes, it still doesn't matter. Unisex bathrooms are more efficient from a usage standpoint than gender segregated bathrooms because there will be no one waiting in line to use the restroom while restrooms sit unused.

Ah, I think I see how this discussion came about now. It wasn't really clear when I read through before.
Nicholia is opposed to unisex bathrooms because he does not believe they are more efficient?

No, near as I can tell, he's opposed to unisex restrooms because all women are his mom, and he doesn't want his mom in the restroom with him...

[Grand Nicholia]

And if you look at their posts, you will just laugh or wonder how many times they were dropped on their head.

So disagreeing with you means you aren't intelligent?

Way to debate

Says you people. I mean, literally you said not agreeing with unisex bathroom is stupidity.