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Postby Galloism » Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:34 pm

Grand Nicholia wrote:Any, look at the time I must go. See you people tomorrow, where we can argue more.

Well, in order to argue more, you would have had to present logical arguments up til now, rather than simply saying "nuh uh" and screaming "the sky is falling".

Please come up with an argument so we can argue for the first time.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:35 pm

Grand Nicholia wrote:
Galloism wrote:Well, it just literally defies any kind of common sense - that's all.

To me, it's as bizarre as someone handing you a free all expense paid trip to Disneyland, finding out there are women on the plane, and deciding to hitchhike there instead of flying.

Not really, as some people only have problem with women bathroom wise.

Some people, however, have a problem with women on airplanes not wearing a sheet. That's how silly I find this objection - just as much as that.

I think people shouldn't have a problem with women period.

But I'm kind of funny like that.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:36 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Grand Nicholia wrote:Yes I would use a port-a-potty to having to share a bathroom with women, so would others. Problem?
They are good at unloading the lines together as people now have options. So while there may be a line to the Unisex, the two other bathrooms have a shorter line.
They are just as efficient, as mentioned above.
The three together would be at an okay price compared to a monstrous unisex bathroom with no other options.


I would rather shit behind some bushes than use a port-a-potty. Fuck that.

I can honestly say I've never taken a shit outside - I just hold it.

I have however urinated outside rather than use a portopotty, because oh god why wouldn't you for the love of god?
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Postby Gim » Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:36 pm

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Grand Nicholia wrote:Any, look at the time I must go. See you people tomorrow, where we can argue more.

Well, in order to argue more, you would have had to present logical arguments up til now, rather than simply saying "nuh uh" and screaming "the sky is falling".

Please come up with an argument so we can argue for the first time.


Well, he provided us with a pdf file(source)(?) on why transgender people are vulnerable.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:40 pm

Gim wrote:
Galloism wrote:Well, in order to argue more, you would have had to present logical arguments up til now, rather than simply saying "nuh uh" and screaming "the sky is falling".

Please come up with an argument so we can argue for the first time.


Well, he provided us with a pdf file(source)(?) on why transgender people are vulnerable.

Violence against transgender people is out of hand. It's just amazingly high and we need to take steps to combat it.

His report showed that, and we all knew that, but it DIDN'T have anything to do with what he claimed repeatedly, that unisex bathrooms will lead to more rapes and beatings and so forth than already occur. Just like Governor Faubus, he screams integration will lead to blood! BLOOD!

And, much like Governor Faubus, I suspect there will be a few scuffles here and there, and then nothing much will really happen.
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Postby Gim » Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:47 pm

Galloism wrote:
Gim wrote:
Well, he provided us with a pdf file(source)(?) on why transgender people are vulnerable.

Violence against transgender people is out of hand. It's just amazingly high and we need to take steps to combat it.

His report showed that, and we all knew that, but it DIDN'T have anything to do with what he claimed repeatedly, that unisex bathrooms will lead to more rapes and beatings and so forth than already occur. Just like Governor Faubus, he screams integration will lead to blood! BLOOD!

And, much like Governor Faubus, I suspect there will be a few scuffles here and there, and then nothing much will really happen.


Well, for him, we're at a temporary ceasefire. :D
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:51 am

Grand Nicholia wrote:...Well, don't expect me to leave. As, remember, I go by the saying, "You are not defeated, until you accept defeat." So I say I am winning...

If you're not going to acknowledge facts and accept simple, logical reasoning then you're not even competing. You're like someone trying to play chess without understanding the rules, and every time you're told that the horsies are called knights and they don't move like that you just say "I don't accept defeat! I am winning!" and keep on moving pieces around randomly.

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Postby May Mays » Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:47 am

Galloism wrote:
Gim wrote:
Well, he provided us with a pdf file(source)(?) on why transgender people are vulnerable.

Violence against transgender people is out of hand. It's just amazingly high and we need to take steps to combat it.

His report showed that, and we all knew that, but it DIDN'T have anything to do with what he claimed repeatedly, that unisex bathrooms will lead to more rapes and beatings and so forth than already occur. Just like Governor Faubus, he screams integration will lead to blood! BLOOD!

And, much like Governor Faubus, I suspect there will be a few scuffles here and there, and then nothing much will really happen.

Well I imagine a woman might think a fellow woman is in the stall next to her and ask for a tampon...
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Postby Galloism » Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:01 am

May Mays wrote:
Galloism wrote:Violence against transgender people is out of hand. It's just amazingly high and we need to take steps to combat it.

His report showed that, and we all knew that, but it DIDN'T have anything to do with what he claimed repeatedly, that unisex bathrooms will lead to more rapes and beatings and so forth than already occur. Just like Governor Faubus, he screams integration will lead to blood! BLOOD!

And, much like Governor Faubus, I suspect there will be a few scuffles here and there, and then nothing much will really happen.

Well I imagine a woman might think a fellow woman is in the stall next to her and ask for a tampon...

That's almost as weak as "oh my god, the bathroom attendant my use the WRONG PRONOUN! Oh the humanity!"
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:10 am

Galloism wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
I would rather shit behind some bushes than use a port-a-potty. Fuck that.

I can honestly say I've never taken a shit outside - I just hold it.

I have however urinated outside rather than use a portopotty, because oh god why wouldn't you for the love of god?


I haven't had to in years, quite thankfully; because apparently there's a TON of restrooms everywhere here in Dallas. While I was in El Salvador however I had to once or twice.

And I generally do urinate outside than use a port-a-potty; except when it is in grassland.
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Postby Galloism » Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:20 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Galloism wrote:I can honestly say I've never taken a shit outside - I just hold it.

I have however urinated outside rather than use a portopotty, because oh god why wouldn't you for the love of god?


I haven't had to in years, quite thankfully; because apparently there's a TON of restrooms everywhere here in Dallas. While I was in El Salvador however I had to once or twice.

And I generally do urinate outside than use a port-a-potty; except when it is in grassland.

...

How tall is the grass in said grassland is a relevant question.
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Postby Chessmistress » Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:24 am

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Gim wrote:
Well, he provided us with a pdf file(source)(?) on why transgender people are vulnerable.

Violence against transgender people is out of hand. It's just amazingly high and we need to take steps to combat it.


Sources about such rampant violence?
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Postby Galloism » Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:27 am

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Galloism wrote:Violence against transgender people is out of hand. It's just amazingly high and we need to take steps to combat it.


Sources about such rampant violence?

First link from Google.
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Postby Razkatto » Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:31 am

Third Wave Feminism asking the pertinent questions eh? Meanwhile women in the middle East are being decapitated for reporting the adultery of their husbands, a crime which under sharia law requires the execution of the adulterer, however due to the backwardness of the people of the middle east, they don't actually follow the facets of their religion and only bastardize an inherently violent ideology and rob it of any morality it may have promoted. Of course the Euro-American Feminists say nothing of it because they only care about not being called racist for demonizing a culture that exists for the sole purpose of demonizing itself. But I digress. For fear of offending the more tender hearted among us, I will say no more. Just take what I've said and think about it a bit.
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Razkatto wrote:Third Wave Feminism asking the pertinent questions eh? Meanwhile women in the middle East are being decapitated for reporting the adultery of their husbands, a crime which under sharia law requires the execution of the adulterer, however due to the backwardness of the people of the middle east, they don't actually follow the facets of their religion and only bastardize an inherently violent ideology and rob it of any morality it may have promoted. Of course the Euro-American Feminists say nothing of it because they only care about not being called racist for demonizing a culture that exists for the sole purpose of demonizing itself. But I digress. For fear of offending the more tender hearted among us, I will say no more. Just take what I've said and think about it a bit.


Uhhh...

If you want me to cry "you're right! What a bunch of hypocrites!" I won't do that.

I will say however, that you are right, but then again most people, if not all people, only care about that which affects them. Caring more about what affects them in daily life, and less and less as the degree of influence in their lives go.

Caring about women in the middle east is not the concern of people in America. I mean, we feel sympathy, and we wish we could help out, but we know we can't unless we go down there. And not many of us are going to.
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Razkatto wrote:Third Wave Feminism asking the pertinent questions eh?

Infected Mushroom isn't an anythingth wave feminist.

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Razkatto wrote:Third Wave Feminism asking the pertinent questions eh? Meanwhile women in the middle East are being decapitated for reporting the adultery of their husbands, a crime which under sharia law requires the execution of the adulterer, however due to the backwardness of the people of the middle east, they don't actually follow the facets of their religion and only bastardize an inherently violent ideology and rob it of any morality it may have promoted. Of course the Euro-American Feminists say nothing of it because they only care about not being called racist for demonizing a culture that exists for the sole purpose of demonizing itself. But I digress. For fear of offending the more tender hearted among us, I will say no more. Just take what I've said and think about it a bit.

Just because some problems are smaller than others does not mean they aren't problems that should be addressed.
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Postby Galloism » Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:42 am

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Grand Nicholia wrote:...Well, don't expect me to leave. As, remember, I go by the saying, "You are not defeated, until you accept defeat." So I say I am winning...

If you're not going to acknowledge facts and accept simple, logical reasoning then you're not even competing. You're like someone trying to play chess without understanding the rules, and every time you're told that the horsies are called knights and they don't move like that you just say "I don't accept defeat! I am winning!" and keep on moving pieces around randomly.

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Razkatto wrote:Third Wave Feminism asking the pertinent questions eh? Meanwhile women in the middle East are being decapitated for reporting the adultery of their husbands, a crime which under sharia law requires the execution of the adulterer, however due to the backwardness of the people of the middle east, they don't actually follow the facets of their religion and only bastardize an inherently violent ideology and rob it of any morality it may have promoted. Of course the Euro-American Feminists say nothing of it because they only care about not being called racist for demonizing a culture that exists for the sole purpose of demonizing itself. But I digress. For fear of offending the more tender hearted among us, I will say no more. Just take what I've said and think about it a bit.

Just because some problems are smaller than others does not mean they aren't problems that should be addressed.

I never said that they should not be addressed, it would just seem that according to western morality, the issue of the value of human female life should be addressed before such tomfoolery as subtle "Misogyny" and "Segregation of the sexes" perceived by an oversensitive minority.
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Razkatto wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Just because some problems are smaller than others does not mean they aren't problems that should be addressed.

I never said that they should not be addressed, it would just seem that according to western morality, the issue of the value of human female life should be addressed before such tomfoolery as subtle "Misogyny" and "Segregation of the sexes" perceived by an oversensitive minority.


First, considering Transgendered individuals are attacked and killed here in the US, this is a matter of a person's life. Second as has been mentioned people tend to work to fix things in their own backyard (ie things that affect them and their loved ones) before they change things that affect others.
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Alvecia wrote:Just because some problems are smaller than others does not mean they aren't problems that should be addressed.

I never said that they should not be addressed, it would just seem that according to western morality, the issue of the value of human female life should be addressed before such tomfoolery as subtle "Misogyny" and "Segregation of the sexes" perceived by an oversensitive minority.

Why should we only address something that we can't directly change before addressing something that we can directly change, instead of, you know, doing both?
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Razkatto wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Just because some problems are smaller than others does not mean they aren't problems that should be addressed.

I never said that they should not be addressed, it would just seem that according to western morality, the issue of the value of human female life should be addressed before such tomfoolery as subtle "Misogyny" and "Segregation of the sexes" perceived by an oversensitive minority.

Oh, I thought you were doing another "lolfeminists" bit, but you're doing the fallacy of relative privation.

Well, if you think it's more important to talk about threat's to women's life than to talk about unisex bathrooms then what are you doing here spending time talking about what we are talking about? Shouldn't you be spending your time on more important things? Or are you an over-sensitive minority engaging in tomfoolery?

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Neutraligon wrote:
Razkatto wrote:I never said that they should not be addressed, it would just seem that according to western morality, the issue of the value of human female life should be addressed before such tomfoolery as subtle "Misogyny" and "Segregation of the sexes" perceived by an oversensitive minority.


First, considering Transgendered individuals are attacked and killed here in the US, this is a matter of a person's life. Second as has been mentioned people tend to work to fix things in their own backyard (ie things that affect them and their loved ones) before they change things that affect others.

Murder is already illegal and punishable by death. What more is there to do? Kill their families?
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:07 am

Razkatto wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
First, considering Transgendered individuals are attacked and killed here in the US, this is a matter of a person's life. Second as has been mentioned people tend to work to fix things in their own backyard (ie things that affect them and their loved ones) before they change things that affect others.

Murder is already illegal and punishable by death. What more is there to do? Kill their families?

Make more bathrooms unisex to protect trans people, maybe.

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Postby Razkatto » Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:09 am

Ifreann wrote:
Razkatto wrote:I never said that they should not be addressed, it would just seem that according to western morality, the issue of the value of human female life should be addressed before such tomfoolery as subtle "Misogyny" and "Segregation of the sexes" perceived by an oversensitive minority.

Oh, I thought you were doing another "lolfeminists" bit, but you're doing the fallacy of relative privation.

Well, if you think it's more important to talk about threat's to women's life than to talk about unisex bathrooms then what are you doing here spending time talking about what we are talking about? Shouldn't you be spending your time on more important things? Or are you an over-sensitive minority engaging in tomfoolery?

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