Segregated Bathrooms: A Problem?

[Grand Nicholia]

Because I have my own preferences. And Unisex bathrooms aren't one of them. I know, a person doesn't want to use a unisex bathroom! So shocking!
*Angry mobs knocks on door*
*I turn around*
"Hello?"
"Burn the heathen!"
(Just joking around. But you acted really really shocked that I wouldn't want to use a unisex bathroom. Like you didn't already know.)

I'm just shocked you'd pick a portopotty over a properly plumbed indoor unisex bathroom.

I'm not shocked you find unisex bathrooms distasteful - it's a bit of a new concept from your perspective. I'm surprised you find them more distasteful than a portopotty. There's very few things more distasteful than a portopotty.

That is the only thing more distasteful than a port-a-potty for me.

[Grand Nicholia]

I'm just shocked you'd pick a portopotty over a properly plumbed indoor unisex bathroom.

I'm not shocked you find unisex bathrooms distasteful - it's a bit of a new concept from your perspective. I'm surprised you find them more distasteful than a portopotty. There's very few things more distasteful than a portopotty.

An outhouse full of black widow spiders?

Burn that outhouse with fire, then shoot at the ashes with a an automatic. But that is unrelated, moving on.

[Gim]

I'm just shocked you'd pick a portopotty over a properly plumbed indoor unisex bathroom.

I'm not shocked you find unisex bathrooms distasteful - it's a bit of a new concept from your perspective. I'm surprised you find them more distasteful than a portopotty. There's very few things more distasteful than a portopotty.

That is the only thing more distasteful than a port-a-potty for me.

Why hate unisex bathrooms?

[Dyakovo]

That is the only thing more distasteful than a port-a-potty for me.

Why hate unisex bathrooms?

Because all women are his mom.
*nods*

[Grand Nicholia]

That is the only thing more distasteful than a port-a-potty for me.

Why hate unisex bathrooms?

MUltiple reasons already stated. But I digress, I will say that I do not like htem as the put the transgender in danger of the bigots, forces the people who do not want to share a bathroom with the opposite sex to share one, etc.

[Grand Nicholia]

Why hate unisex bathrooms?

Because all women are his mom.
*nods*

Unrelated.

[Galloism]

Only that it's like complaining that you might get a little grease on your hands working on your car so you opt to instead dive into a vat of liquefied cow manure.

Not really. Just that I don't like unisex bathrooms.

You apparently dislike them more than portopotties, which is just shocking to me.

No, it's less efficient, because by eliminating the gender of the bathrooms, all the lines could be reduced to zero.

In order for the unisex to do that, it would have to monstrous!

Or just occupy the same space as the previous bathrooms but be unisex so there's no load balancing issues.

Hey, if you can make up giant floor-occupying unisex bathrooms, I can make up the number of female bathrooms in the building.

Unrelated.

If by "ok price" you mean "more expensive by roughly 50%".

Why do you keep saying "monstrous"? The unisex bathroom would now be the size of the two gendered bathrooms and occupy the same floor space.

It's like if a person decides to knock out a wall and make their living room and dining room one big space so they can fit a pool table, screaming "it's huge, WHY IS IT SO HUGE!!! YOU CAN'T INCREASE ROOM SIZES IN THE SAME BUILDING BY NOT HAVING WALLS! ITS MADNESS!!!"

I already addressed this. It would have to monstrous to have no lines.

Maybe, but it would reduce lines at gender-uneven events even at the same size as current bathrooms, because all facilities could be utilized until the line was satisfied. Right now, maximum capacity can be reached at as little as 50% capacity.

For example, let's suppose we had gender segregated buses. Each bus, hypothetically, has 40 seats. The front 20 belong to women, and the back 20 belong to men. On most days, this wouldn't be a problem, as men and women make up roughly 50% of the population individually.

But today is not most days. Today, there is a feminist convention in town, which adds thousands of extra women to the bus routes, and a few hundred men.

So the bus comes to the bus stop, and there's 20 men and 40 women waiting to be transported to the convention. No problem - the bus takes all the men and half the women.

The next bus comes, now there's 15 men and 65 women. Now the gender segregated bus takes 15 men and 20 women, which leaves 5 empty seats for the trip downtown.

The next bus comes - now there's 5 men and 90 women. The bus takes 5 men and 20 women, leaving the other 15 seats empty, and goes downtown.

This continues ad nauseum.

Now, how much more efficient would it be for all the buses to allow all genders to sit anywhere they please? Would it not take fewer buses to do the same job?

[Gim]

Why hate unisex bathrooms?

MUltiple reasons already stated. But I digress, I will say that I do not like htem as the put the transgender in danger of the bigots, forces the people who do not want to share a bathroom with the opposite sex to share one, etc.

Danger as in rape or verbal harassment?

[Galloism]

I'm just shocked you'd pick a portopotty over a properly plumbed indoor unisex bathroom.

I'm not shocked you find unisex bathrooms distasteful - it's a bit of a new concept from your perspective. I'm surprised you find them more distasteful than a portopotty. There's very few things more distasteful than a portopotty.

An outhouse full of black widow spiders?

Umm... what's the outside temperature, how often is the outhouse used, and do I have antivenom at my local hospital?

[Galloism]

I'm just shocked you'd pick a portopotty over a properly plumbed indoor unisex bathroom.

I'm not shocked you find unisex bathrooms distasteful - it's a bit of a new concept from your perspective. I'm surprised you find them more distasteful than a portopotty. There's very few things more distasteful than a portopotty.

That is the only thing more distasteful than a port-a-potty for me.

That's just amazing to me. Flat out fucking amazing.

Like, I literally can't believe that a woman being in close proximity to you while you poop while a visual barrier blocks everyone else from you is more distasteful than a portopotty.

[Grand Nicholia]

Not really. Just that I don't like unisex bathrooms.

You apparently dislike them more than portopotties, which is just shocking to me.

In order for the unisex to do that, it would have to monstrous!

Or just occupy the same space as the previous bathrooms but be unisex so there's no load balancing issues.

Unrelated.


I already addressed this. It would have to monstrous to have no lines.

Maybe, but it would reduce lines at gender-uneven events even at the same size as current bathrooms, because all facilities could be utilized until the line was satisfied. Right now, maximum capacity can be reached at as little as 50% capacity.

For example, let's suppose we had gender segregated buses. Each bus, hypothetically, has 40 seats. The front 20 belong to women, and the back 20 belong to men. On most days, this wouldn't be a problem, as men and women make up roughly 50% of the population individually.

But today is not most days. Today, there is a feminist convention in town, which adds thousands of extra women to the bus routes, and a few hundred men.

So the bus comes to the bus stop, and there's 20 men and 40 women waiting to be transported to the convention. No problem - the bus takes all the men and half the women.

The next bus comes, now there's 15 men and 65 women. Now the gender segregated bus takes 15 men and 20 women, which leaves 5 empty seats for the trip downtown.

The next bus comes - now there's 5 men and 90 women. The bus takes 5 men and 20 women, leaving the other 15 seats empty, and goes downtown.

This continues ad nauseum.

Now, how much more efficient would it be for all the buses to allow all genders to sit anywhere they please? Would it not take fewer buses to do the same job?

We are talking about bathrooms not buses, but I digress.
In your scenario, I would have more buses on duty. If that is not available, i would borrow buses from a nearby township to encompass the amount of women coming.
Also, a monstrous bathroom would cost more than three small ones.

[Grand Nicholia]

MUltiple reasons already stated. But I digress, I will say that I do not like htem as the put the transgender in danger of the bigots, forces the people who do not want to share a bathroom with the opposite sex to share one, etc.

Danger as in rape or verbal harassment?

A verbal harassment and beatings, possibly rape.

[Galloism]

You apparently dislike them more than portopotties, which is just shocking to me.



Or just occupy the same space as the previous bathrooms but be unisex so there's no load balancing issues.


Maybe, but it would reduce lines at gender-uneven events even at the same size as current bathrooms, because all facilities could be utilized until the line was satisfied. Right now, maximum capacity can be reached at as little as 50% capacity.

For example, let's suppose we had gender segregated buses. Each bus, hypothetically, has 40 seats. The front 20 belong to women, and the back 20 belong to men. On most days, this wouldn't be a problem, as men and women make up roughly 50% of the population individually.

But today is not most days. Today, there is a feminist convention in town, which adds thousands of extra women to the bus routes, and a few hundred men.

So the bus comes to the bus stop, and there's 20 men and 40 women waiting to be transported to the convention. No problem - the bus takes all the men and half the women.

The next bus comes, now there's 15 men and 65 women. Now the gender segregated bus takes 15 men and 20 women, which leaves 5 empty seats for the trip downtown.

The next bus comes - now there's 5 men and 90 women. The bus takes 5 men and 20 women, leaving the other 15 seats empty, and goes downtown.

This continues ad nauseum.

Now, how much more efficient would it be for all the buses to allow all genders to sit anywhere they please? Would it not take fewer buses to do the same job?

We are talking about bathrooms not buses, but I digress.
In your scenario, I would have more buses on duty. If that is not available, i would borrow buses from a nearby township to encompass the amount of women coming.

Really? You'd spend more fuel, hire more drivers, and ultimately be less efficient so you can tell people where to sit?

That's absurd.

Also, a monstrous bathroom would cost more than three small ones.

If it occupies the same floor space, logically it would cost less because of fewer walls, unless you're making your bathrooms so large you run into freestanding structure problems.

[Grand Nicholia]

That is the only thing more distasteful than a port-a-potty for me.

That's just amazing to me. Flat out fucking amazing.

Like, I literally can't believe that a woman being in close proximity to you while you poop while a visual barrier blocks everyone else from you is more distasteful than a portopotty.

I have a different opinion! WOW! SO SURPRISING.
*Angry mob knocks on door, again*
*I open door*
"Hello Again?"
"This time actually burn the heathen!"

[Galloism]

That's just amazing to me. Flat out fucking amazing.

Like, I literally can't believe that a woman being in close proximity to you while you poop while a visual barrier blocks everyone else from you is more distasteful than a portopotty.

I have a different opinion! WOW! SO SURPRISING.
*Angry mob knocks on door, again*
*I open door*
"Hello Again?"
"This time actually burn the heathen!"

Well, it just literally defies any kind of common sense - that's all.

To me, it's as bizarre as someone handing you a free all expense paid trip to Disneyland, finding out there are women on the plane, and deciding to hitchhike there instead of flying.

[Grand Nicholia]

We are talking about bathrooms not buses, but I digress.
In your scenario, I would have more buses on duty. If that is not available, i would borrow buses from a nearby township to encompass the amount of women coming.

Really? You'd spend more fuel, hire more drivers, and ultimately be less efficient so you can tell people where to sit?

That's absurd.

Also, a monstrous bathroom would cost more than three small ones.

If it occupies the same floor space, logically it would cost less because of fewer walls, unless you're making your bathrooms so large you run into freestanding structure problems.

You did leave your scenario open for interpretation.
Also, what about taking down those walls? Also, your dream bathroom would have to be gigantic to be able to clear 500 people in 25 minutes.

[Gim]

Danger as in rape or verbal harassment?

A verbal harassment and beatings, possibly rape.

I think rape is the least of the concerns. Verbal harassment does not seem bogus to me. Do you have sources for that?

[Grand Nicholia]

A verbal harassment and beatings, possibly rape.

I think rape is the least of the concerns. Verbal harassment does not seem bogus to me. Do you have sources for that?

http://www.avp.org/storage/documents/Training%20and%20TA%20Center/FORGE_Transgender_Violence_Fast_Facts.pdf

[Galloism]

Really? You'd spend more fuel, hire more drivers, and ultimately be less efficient so you can tell people where to sit?

That's absurd.

If it occupies the same floor space, logically it would cost less because of fewer walls, unless you're making your bathrooms so large you run into freestanding structure problems.

You did leave your scenario open for interpretation.
Also, what about taking down those walls?

As I said, retrofitting previous structures probably isn't practical. Simply changing the signs is sufficient.

[Grand Nicholia]

I have a different opinion! WOW! SO SURPRISING.
*Angry mob knocks on door, again*
*I open door*
"Hello Again?"
"This time actually burn the heathen!"

Well, it just literally defies any kind of common sense - that's all.

To me, it's as bizarre as someone handing you a free all expense paid trip to Disneyland, finding out there are women on the plane, and deciding to hitchhike there instead of flying.

Not really, as some people only have problem with women bathroom wise.

[Grand Nicholia]

You did leave your scenario open for interpretation.
Also, what about taking down those walls?

As I said, retrofitting previous structures probably isn't practical. Simply changing the signs is sufficient.

Says the person one bathroom can clear 500 people in 25 minutes.

[Grand Nicholia]

Any, look at the time I must go. See you people tomorrow, where we can argue more.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Ew. Just... ew. You'd rather use a port-a-potty than share a bathroom with a woman?

That's sick.

I would rather take a shit in a unisex bathroom where the stall walls have been stolen and the other people in the bathroom are Mike Tyson, the woman from Murder She Wrote, and a gay male hooker giving a blow job to Donald Trump.


Yes they can, but they are more expensive, less efficient, and less effective at load balancing.

Yes I would use a port-a-potty to having to share a bathroom with women, so would others. Problem?
They are good at unloading the lines together as people now have options. So while there may be a line to the Unisex, the two other bathrooms have a shorter line.
They are just as efficient, as mentioned above.
The three together would be at an okay price compared to a monstrous unisex bathroom with no other options.

I would rather shit behind some bushes than use a port-a-potty. Fuck that.

[Gim]

I think rape is the least of the concerns. Verbal harassment does not seem bogus to me. Do you have sources for that?

http://www.avp.org/storage/documents/Training%20and%20TA%20Center/FORGE_Transgender_Violence_Fast_Facts.pdf

I didn't find any information on bathroom, unless you are considering it to be a part of "public venue".

[Galloism]

As I said, retrofitting previous structures probably isn't practical. Simply changing the signs is sufficient.

Says the person one bathroom can clear 500 people in 25 minutes.

That would have to be a rather large bathroom. Last I heard, the typical person takes 5 minutes in a bathroom, of which 3 is occupied in a stall and or urinal (i'm using averages here - urinal is obviously faster, while stall is slower). This was a number of years ago when I was assisting in plotting the building of a structure for a tax client. Effectively, since public bathrooms operate like assembly lines during times of peak load, this means that for time tracking purposes, 3 minutes per person is your target number. This means that 3 stalls/urinals means that 1 person will be served every minute.

So to serve 500 people in 25 minutes would be a substantially large bathroom - roughly 20 people per minute, or 60 stalls/urinals.

That would be a rather huge bathroom. That's probably too large for a bathroom.

Happy? I said it. But that doesn't override the inefficiencies gained by going unisex in the same floor space we have now. Which I already pointed out to you.