Segregated Bathrooms: A Problem?

[Galloism]

You said gendered bathrooms already exist. This is true, and given the costs of construction and remodeling, it's probably not reasonable to redesign the space unless you were going to do a major remodel anyway, which is why I've suggested in this thread just making both bathrooms unisex. It's cheap, it's easy, it solves load balancing issues, it solves transgender issues, and it solves minor child issues.

Well, in what I said, I was talking about a giant women's line, but if you want to go with men's that's fine too.

Hypothetically, there is no shorter men's line. All the men's bathrooms have giant lines, and all the women's bathrooms are basically empty.

Well, we evaluate some things, and open up some employee only bathrooms.

Usually there's only one employee only bathroom with one stall at smaller venues, and at larger venues, there's only a very limited amount.

It would not be enough to ease the load.

You just said "space". How am I supposed to argue with that?

Argue with this:

Rumpelstiltskin.

You're smart , too smart.

Thank you.

And if the next venue is half a mile? Or hell, let's make it easy, 500 feet. You going to make a woman who desperately needs to pee walk 500 feet to hopefully find a bathroom without a line at some place that may or may not be open, and may or may not have a line, when there's an unused restroom five feet away?

Only if the other store is CLOSE! 500 miles is not close! I am talking about a mall, or similar.

Malls aren't the only places in existence (and usually malls don't have near the bathroom issues a convention center, football stadium, or theater does, as restrooms tend to be used sporadically, as opposed to all at once).

That's cruel. You know walking makes you have to pee more, right?

Addressed.

Sure, but as long as the bathrooms are gendered, if the clientelle is not evenly split by gender, you're going to have lines at ALL the men's bathrooms and none of the women's, or vice versa. It doesn't matter if there are 2 bathrooms of 500 bathrooms, you'll still have the same problem. Half of the bathrooms will have huge lines, and half of them will be empty, because you are artificially adjusting the load onto only half of the facilities.

So? Very raely will that happen. Lets say this is an office building. 60% percent men. There are 1,000 workers and 120 bathrooms. For some reason, all men's bathrooms have 20 men at them. Now let's say, they decided to add 1 unisex bathroom. thus reducing every line to 10. This shows that these three bathrooms can coexist. No need to get rid of mens and womens.

That's a hell of a lot of bathrooms for an office building. You'd never have a line ever, but it would be the most expensive plumbing job in history for a building that size. And the hell is the size of that unisex bathroom, given that there are 2400 people waiting in line to use the men's bathroom and it can accommodate 1200 of them?

There's usually 1 toilet (urinal or stall) for every 35-40 employees, give or take.

https://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadis ... &p_id=9790

[Nilla Wayfarers]

Mhm. Click where it says "wrote" in my post.
I didn't say anything you quoted there.
Try again.

It shows up as I quoted your post exactly. This is odd.

No, I mean here:

You said gendered bathrooms already exist. This is true, and given the costs of construction and remodeling, it's probably not reasonable to redesign the space unless you were going to do a major remodel anyway, which is why I've suggested in this thread just making both bathrooms unisex. It's cheap, it's easy, it solves load balancing issues, it solves transgender issues, and it solves minor child issues.

Well, in what I said, I was talking about a giant women's line, but if you want to go with men's that's fine too.

Hypothetically, there is no shorter men's line. All the men's bathrooms have giant lines, and all the women's bathrooms are basically empty.

Well, we evaluate some things, and open up some employee only bathrooms.

You just said "space". How am I supposed to argue with that?

Argue with this:

Rumpelstiltskin.

You're smart , too smart.

And if the next venue is half a mile? Or hell, let's make it easy, 500 feet. You going to make a woman who desperately needs to pee walk 500 feet to hopefully find a bathroom without a line at some place that may or may not be open, and may or may not have a line, when there's an unused restroom five feet away?

Only if the other store is CLOSE! 500 feet is not close! I am talking about a mall, or similar.

That's cruel. You know walking makes you have to pee more, right?

Addressed.

Sure, but as long as the bathrooms are gendered, if the clientelle is not evenly split by gender, you're going to have lines at ALL the men's bathrooms and none of the women's, or vice versa. It doesn't matter if there are 2 bathrooms of 500 bathrooms, you'll still have the same problem. Half of the bathrooms will have huge lines, and half of them will be empty, because you are artificially adjusting the load onto only half of the facilities.

So? Very raely will that happen. Lets say this is an office building. 60% percent men. There are 1,000 workers and 120 bathrooms. For some reason, all men's bathrooms have 20 men at them. Now let's say, they decided to add 1 unisex bathroom. thus reducing every line to 10. This shows that these three bathrooms can coexist. No need to get rid of mens and womens.

Your post doesn't say who you're quoting here.

[Grand Nicholia]

Usually there's only one employee only bathroom with one stall at smaller venues, and at larger venues, there's only a very limited amount.

It would not be enough to ease the load.

Then maybe call in some mobile toilets. (Port-a-Potties.)

Thank you.

Your welcome, I guess?

Malls aren't the only places in existence (and usually malls don't have near the bathroom issues a convention center, football stadium, or theater does, as restrooms tend to be used sporadically, as opposed to all at once).

While mall bathrooms are not all used all at once, they get decently crowded. And I think we are having a discussion already on what you mentioned.

That's cruel. You know walking makes you have to pee more, right?

Addressed.

That's a hell of a lot of bathrooms for an office building. You'd never have a line ever, but it would be the most expensive plumbing job in history for a building that size. And the hell is the size of that unisex bathroom, given that there are 2400 people waiting in line to use the men's bathroom and it can accommodate 1200 of them?

There's usually 1 toilet (urinal or stall) for every 35-40 employees, give or take.

https://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadis ... &p_id=9790

It was unrealistic on purpose to demonstrate something else. That these three bathroom types can coexist.

[Grand Nicholia]

It shows up as I quoted your post exactly. This is odd.

No, I mean here:

Well, we evaluate some things, and open up some employee only bathrooms.


You're smart , too smart.


Only if the other store is CLOSE! 500 feet is not close! I am talking about a mall, or similar.


Addressed.


So? Very raely will that happen. Lets say this is an office building. 60% percent men. There are 1,000 workers and 120 bathrooms. For some reason, all men's bathrooms have 20 men at them. Now let's say, they decided to add 1 unisex bathroom. thus reducing every line to 10. This shows that these three bathrooms can coexist. No need to get rid of mens and womens.

Your post doesn't say who you're quoting here.

I am quoting Gallo there.

[Galloism]

Usually there's only one employee only bathroom with one stall at smaller venues, and at larger venues, there's only a very limited amount.

It would not be enough to ease the load.

Then maybe call in some mobile toilets. (Port-a-Potties.)

Ew. Just... ew. You'd rather use a port-a-potty than share a bathroom with a woman?

That's sick.

I would rather take a shit in a unisex bathroom where the stall walls have been stolen and the other people in the bathroom are Mike Tyson, the woman from Murder She Wrote, and a gay male hooker giving a blow job to Donald Trump.

Thank you.

Your welcome, I guess?

Malls aren't the only places in existence (and usually malls don't have near the bathroom issues a convention center, football stadium, or theater does, as restrooms tend to be used sporadically, as opposed to all at once).

While mall bathrooms are not all used all at once, they get decently crowded. And I think we are having a discussion already on what you mentioned.

Addressed.

It was unrealistic on purpose to demonstrate something else. That these three bathroom types can coexist.

Yes they can, but they are more expensive, less efficient, and less effective at load balancing.

[Nilla Wayfarers]

No, I mean here:

Your post doesn't say who you're quoting here.

I am quoting Gallo there.

Well, good for you. You still ignored:

Your "math" is simply elementy problems with big loopholes I can jump through.

Elementary? And what did you ever say that was "so right?"

No, racial segregation DOES NOT make sense.

But

yes, it does make sense.

So are your other statements as shaky?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

If the unisex bathroom option wasn't available, I would rather soil myself than use a nasty port-o-potty. Ew.

[Grand Nicholia]

I am quoting Gallo there.

Well, good for you. You still ignored:

Elementary? And what did you ever say that was "so right?"

But

So are your other statements as shaky?

Okay, you confused me. I thought by, "DOes it make sense?" you ment does your argument make sense, not that if racial segregation make sense.
On the math one, I just proved his loopholes.

[Gim]

If the unisex bathroom option wasn't available, I would rather soil myself than use a nasty port-o-potty. Ew.

What about the women's?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

If the unisex bathroom option wasn't available, I would rather soil myself than use a nasty port-o-potty. Ew.

What about the women's?

Lets say there wasn't a gendered bathroom option, yeah, I rather soil myself than use a disease ridden port-o-potty.

[Gim]

What about the women's?

Lets say there wasn't a gendered bathroom option, yeah, I rather soil myself than use a disease ridden port-o-potty.

Can't you just be one with nature and do it outside?

[Nilla Wayfarers]

Well, good for you. You still ignored:

Okay, you confused me. I thought by, "DOes it make sense?" you ment does your argument make sense, not that if racial segregation make sense.
On the math one, I just proved his loopholes.

And on the math one, he just disproved what you thought were loopholes. Read the italics.

[Galloism]

Well, good for you. You still ignored:

Okay, you confused me. I thought by, "DOes it make sense?" you ment does your argument make sense, not that if racial segregation make sense.
On the math one, I just proved his loopholes.

By creating a hypothetical building with a entire floor dedicated to a 1200 person unisex bathroom?

Ok. If that makes you feel better.

[Grand Nicholia]

Then maybe call in some mobile toilets. (Port-a-Potties.)

Ew. Just... ew. You'd rather use a port-a-potty than share a bathroom with a woman?

That's sick.

I would rather take a shit in a unisex bathroom where the stall walls have been stolen and the other people in the bathroom are Mike Tyson, the woman from Murder She Wrote, and a gay male hooker giving a blow job to Donald Trump.

Your welcome, I guess?


While mall bathrooms are not all used all at once, they get decently crowded. And I think we are having a discussion already on what you mentioned.


It was unrealistic on purpose to demonstrate something else. That these three bathroom types can coexist.

Yes they can, but they are more expensive, less efficient, and less effective at load balancing.

Yes I would use a port-a-potty to having to share a bathroom with women, so would others. Problem?
They are good at unloading the lines together as people now have options. So while there may be a line to the Unisex, the two other bathrooms have a shorter line.
They are just as efficient, as mentioned above.
The three together would be at an okay price compared to a monstrous unisex bathroom with no other options.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Lets say there wasn't a gendered bathroom option, yeah, I rather soil myself than use a disease ridden port-o-potty.

Can't you just be one with nature and do it outside?

You miss the point, kid. GN there said he'd rather shit in a port-o-sickhole than use a unisex bathroom.

[Galloism]

Ew. Just... ew. You'd rather use a port-a-potty than share a bathroom with a woman?

That's sick.

I would rather take a shit in a unisex bathroom where the stall walls have been stolen and the other people in the bathroom are Mike Tyson, the woman from Murder She Wrote, and a gay male hooker giving a blow job to Donald Trump.


Yes they can, but they are more expensive, less efficient, and less effective at load balancing.

Yes I would use a port-a-potty to having to share a bathroom with women, so would others. Problem?

Only that it's like complaining that you might get a little grease on your hands working on your car so you opt to instead dive into a vat of liquefied cow manure.

They are good at unloading the lines together as people now have options. So while there may be a line to the Unisex, the two other bathrooms have a shorter line.
They are just as efficient, as mentioned above.

No, it's less efficient, because by eliminating the gender of the bathrooms, all the lines could be reduced to zero.

Hey, if you can make up giant floor-occupying unisex bathrooms, I can make up the number of female bathrooms in the building.

The three together would be at an okay price compared to a monstrous unisex bathroom with no other options.

If by "ok price" you mean "more expensive by roughly 50%".

Why do you keep saying "monstrous"? The unisex bathroom would now be the size of the two gendered bathrooms and occupy the same floor space.

It's like if a person decides to knock out a wall and make their living room and dining room one big space so they can fit a pool table, screaming "it's huge, WHY IS IT SO HUGE!!! YOU CAN'T INCREASE ROOM SIZES IN THE SAME BUILDING BY NOT HAVING WALLS! ITS MADNESS!!!"

[Gim]

Can't you just be one with nature and do it outside?

You miss the point, kid. GN there said he'd rather shit in a port-o-sickhole than use a unisex bathroom.

Maybe he feels uncomfortable. I don't know.

[Grand Nicholia]

Can't you just be one with nature and do it outside?

You miss the point, kid. GN there said he'd rather shit in a port-o-sickhole than use a unisex bathroom.

Because I have my own preferences. And Unisex bathrooms aren't one of them. I know, a person doesn't want to use a unisex bathroom! So shocking!
*Angry mobs knocks on door*
*I turn around*
"Hello?"
"Burn the heathen!"
(Just joking around. But you acted really really shocked that I wouldn't want to use a unisex bathroom. Like you didn't already know.)

[Gim]

You miss the point, kid. GN there said he'd rather shit in a port-o-sickhole than use a unisex bathroom.

Because I have my own preferences. And Unisex bathrooms aren't one of them. I know, a person doesn't want to use a unisex bathroom! So shocking!
*Angry mobs knocks on door*
*I turn around*
"Hello?"
"Burn the heathen!"
(Just joking around. But you acted really really shocked that I wouldn't want to use a unisex bathroom. Like you didn't already know.)

I mean, there are some people who find unisex bsthrooms uncomfortable. Do you agree?

[Galloism]

You miss the point, kid. GN there said he'd rather shit in a port-o-sickhole than use a unisex bathroom.

Because I have my own preferences. And Unisex bathrooms aren't one of them. I know, a person doesn't want to use a unisex bathroom! So shocking!
*Angry mobs knocks on door*
*I turn around*
"Hello?"
"Burn the heathen!"
(Just joking around. But you acted really really shocked that I wouldn't want to use a unisex bathroom. Like you didn't already know.)

I'm just shocked you'd pick a portopotty over a properly plumbed indoor unisex bathroom.

I'm not shocked you find unisex bathrooms distasteful - it's a bit of a new concept from your perspective. I'm surprised you find them more distasteful than a portopotty. There's very few things more distasteful than a portopotty.

[Grand Nicholia]

Only that it's like complaining that you might get a little grease on your hands working on your car so you opt to instead dive into a vat of liquefied cow manure.

Not really. Just that I don't like unisex bathrooms.

No, it's less efficient, because by eliminating the gender of the bathrooms, all the lines could be reduced to zero.

In order for the unisex to do that, it would have to monstrous!

Hey, if you can make up giant floor-occupying unisex bathrooms, I can make up the number of female bathrooms in the building.

Unrelated.

If by "ok price" you mean "more expensive by roughly 50%".

Why do you keep saying "monstrous"? The unisex bathroom would now be the size of the two gendered bathrooms and occupy the same floor space.

It's like if a person decides to knock out a wall and make their living room and dining room one big space so they can fit a pool table, screaming "it's huge, WHY IS IT SO HUGE!!! YOU CAN'T INCREASE ROOM SIZES IN THE SAME BUILDING BY NOT HAVING WALLS! ITS MADNESS!!!"

I already addressed this. It would have to monstrous to have no lines.

[Gim]

Because I have my own preferences. And Unisex bathrooms aren't one of them. I know, a person doesn't want to use a unisex bathroom! So shocking!
*Angry mobs knocks on door*
*I turn around*
"Hello?"
"Burn the heathen!"
(Just joking around. But you acted really really shocked that I wouldn't want to use a unisex bathroom. Like you didn't already know.)

I'm just shocked you'd pick a portopotty over a properly plumbed indoor unisex bathroom.

I'm not shocked you find unisex bathrooms distasteful - it's a bit of a new concept from your perspective. I'm surprised you find them more distasteful than a portopotty. There's very few things more distasteful than a portopotty.

Unfortunately, we cannot force him to use the unisex bsthroom.

[Grand Nicholia]

Because I have my own preferences. And Unisex bathrooms aren't one of them. I know, a person doesn't want to use a unisex bathroom! So shocking!
*Angry mobs knocks on door*
*I turn around*
"Hello?"
"Burn the heathen!"
(Just joking around. But you acted really really shocked that I wouldn't want to use a unisex bathroom. Like you didn't already know.)

I mean, there are some people who find unisex bsthrooms uncomfortable. Do you agree?

Yes I do.

[Dyakovo]

What about the women's?

Lets say there wasn't a gendered bathroom option, yeah, I rather soil myself than use a disease ridden port-o-potty.

Eh... Assuming that the people who rented the porta-potty schedules servicing appropriately, they're not that bad...

[The Serbian Empire]

Because I have my own preferences. And Unisex bathrooms aren't one of them. I know, a person doesn't want to use a unisex bathroom! So shocking!
*Angry mobs knocks on door*
*I turn around*
"Hello?"
"Burn the heathen!"
(Just joking around. But you acted really really shocked that I wouldn't want to use a unisex bathroom. Like you didn't already know.)

I'm just shocked you'd pick a portopotty over a properly plumbed indoor unisex bathroom.

I'm not shocked you find unisex bathrooms distasteful - it's a bit of a new concept from your perspective. I'm surprised you find them more distasteful than a portopotty. There's very few things more distasteful than a portopotty.

An outhouse full of black widow spiders?