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Pro-Choice or Pro-Life?

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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:23 pm

Stellonia wrote:Fine. I'll ask a question to the pro-choicers here, and I want a clear answer: Is a fetus inside its mother's womb an assailant against its mother? Why or why not?

Yes, because it causes complications.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:26 pm

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Stellonia wrote:Exactly! You concede that an abortion differs from defending oneself, or others, from a crime.

Wat


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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:38 pm

Stellonia wrote:Fine. I'll ask a question to the pro-choicers here, and I want a clear answer: Is a fetus inside its mother's womb an assailant against its mother? Why or why not?


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Postby The V O I D » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:16 pm

Guys, don't beat the dead horse; it's suffered enough damage.
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Postby Zoice » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:49 pm

The V O I D wrote:Guys, don't beat the dead horse; it's suffered enough damage.

The horse isn't a person.
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:54 pm

Zoice wrote:
The V O I D wrote:Guys, don't beat the dead horse; it's suffered enough damage.

The horse isn't a person.

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Postby Ted Cruz 4 2016 » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:57 pm

I am pro-life and by the way, I will cease the funding of Planned Parenthood.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:59 pm

Ted Cruz 4 2016 wrote:I am pro-life and by the way, I will cease the funding of Planned Parenthood.

Planned Parenthood doesn't need to be defunded. Women need the healthcare.
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Postby The V O I D » Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:03 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Ted Cruz 4 2016 wrote:I am pro-life and by the way, I will cease the funding of Planned Parenthood.

Planned Parenthood doesn't need to be defunded. Women need the healthcare.


Plus, it isn't all about abortion. PP also gives contraceptives, among other services, to people.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:04 pm

The V O I D wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Planned Parenthood doesn't need to be defunded. Women need the healthcare.


Plus, it isn't all about abortion. PP also gives contraceptives, among other services, to people.

Exactly.
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Postby The Comboverlord » Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:07 pm

Ted Cruz 4 2016 wrote:I am pro-life and by the way, I will cease the funding of Planned Parenthood.

Ted, you're a nice man, but you are the single biggest liar in this race. I'm going to crush you, and I'll actually end funding for Planned Parenthood. And Mexico will pay for it.
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Postby Stellonia » Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:20 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Ted Cruz 4 2016 wrote:I am pro-life and by the way, I will cease the funding of Planned Parenthood.

Planned Parenthood doesn't need to be defunded. Women need the healthcare.

Is Planned Parenthood really the only organization that can provide the healthcare it specializes in?
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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:21 pm

Ted Cruz 4 2016 wrote:I am pro-life and by the way, I will cease the funding of Planned Parenthood.

Govt funding to PP doesn't go to funding abortions. Also, why are you pro-life?
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Postby Alvecia » Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:22 pm

Stellonia wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Planned Parenthood doesn't need to be defunded. Women need the healthcare.

Is Planned Parenthood really the only organization that can provide the healthcare it specializes in?

Do there need to be other if PP does what it does?
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Postby Geilinor » Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:23 pm

Stellonia wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Planned Parenthood doesn't need to be defunded. Women need the healthcare.

Is Planned Parenthood really the only organization that can provide the healthcare it specializes in?

No, but they are the largest and most well-known.
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Postby The V O I D » Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:23 pm

Stellonia wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Planned Parenthood doesn't need to be defunded. Women need the healthcare.

Is Planned Parenthood really the only organization that can provide the healthcare it specializes in?


No, but it's better to stick with what's already there than to try and make some other organization and shut PP down, or to fund some other organization only to find out it doesn't do as well.

Also, Stellonia, did you see the arguments on the previous page? Or choose to ignore them because your argument was butchered?
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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:27 pm

The V O I D wrote:
Stellonia wrote:Is Planned Parenthood really the only organization that can provide the healthcare it specializes in?


No, but it's better to stick with what's already there than to try and make some other organization and shut PP down, or to fund some other organization only to find out it doesn't do as well.

Also, Stellonia, did you see the arguments on the previous page? Or choose to ignore them because your argument was butchered?

That's what he does.
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Postby The V O I D » Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:30 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
No, but it's better to stick with what's already there than to try and make some other organization and shut PP down, or to fund some other organization only to find out it doesn't do as well.

Also, Stellonia, did you see the arguments on the previous page? Or choose to ignore them because your argument was butchered?

That's what he does.


I noticed that, but I'm just curious as to his consistency.
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Postby Razgriskm » Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:41 pm

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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:46 pm

Razgriskm wrote:
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I support the right to consume alcohol and tobacco products. Thank you for reaffirming my stance on abortion.
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Postby Vorond » Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:50 pm

Razgriskm wrote:
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Postby Godular » Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:06 pm

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Wow. Not even copypasta. Yer really plumbing the depths of originality here.
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Postby Zoice » Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:16 pm

Razgriskm wrote:
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Hooray, false analogies! *Highfives*
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Postby Geilinor » Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:18 pm

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Alvecia wrote:Nope. Doesn't need to be.
"I don't feel like" it is good enough.

Nein.

Oh, well. Society will do it, anyway.

But the West doesn't really need mass abortion and population control... Its India who needs it. AID's is aleardy doing the job in Africa(sadly) and China has achieved zero population growth and has slowed its population growth greatly. India was just an epic fail in family planning...

China went too far and has a population that's aging too early and India's birth rate isn't that high. It's Nigeria that needs more family planning.
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Postby Razgriskm » Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:36 pm

Zoice wrote:
Razgriskm wrote:
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Hooray, false analogies! *Highfives*


¯\_(ツ)_/¯ it's getting hard not to shit post when all the debate is over "Lol its not human science says so" instead of the moral grounds the act stands on, because its not like some people perceive a pregnancy as the best possible thing to happen to someone, because its not like it passes on your blood and allows the legacy of you and your family to live on.

Some people prefer to have a fully libertarian world, even if it means taking liberty from the unborn. I'll scuttle back under my roleplay forum rock I guess, can't help it if I apparently completely disagree with a user base on a website known for:
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