NationStates

Benuty wrote:

Polar Svalbard wrote:Texas legally cannot secede.

Though it could break up into five different states if permitted.

...that would be awesome.

There'd be so much infighting over who gets to keep then name Texas that the rest of the world wouldn't hear a peep from them for decades...

Man, Texans are such hypocrites. First they absolutely demand that the U.S. takes them in, tricking them into a war with another country just to be finally taken in, and now they want independence again? Gawd, make up your flippin' mind Texas.

North America Inc wrote:Didn't the Civil War teach us anything!

It taught us the true value of an abortion as described in the Terminator.

North America Inc wrote:Didn't the Civil War teach us anything!

It taught stupid motherfuckers the concept of secession...I suppose that's not what you were shooting for though.

Bentrada wrote:Well, if this petition gets enough signatures and the Supreme Court sees it, I'm sure they'll just let the second largest state (by population, area, and GDP) just become its own nation.

The Supreme Court wouldn't necessarily be involved.

Ifreann wrote:

North America Inc wrote:Didn't the Civil War teach us anything!

Apparently it taught Texans to ask nicely instead of just declaring themselves seceded.

Now, I am just waiting for Fort Sumter to be fired upon.

Valrifell wrote:Man, Texans are such hypocrites. First they absolutely demand that the U.S. takes them in, tricking them into a war with another country just to be finally taken in, and now they want independence again? Gawd, make up your flippin' mind Texas.

To be fair that generation is dead so this new one hasn't lived in the environment those Texans did.

American Imperial Union wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/texas-secessionists-launch-petition-drive-vote-break-away-012823002.html

Think of that! What is they actually manage it?

Supreme Court ruling about gay marriage nullified.

Texas has nuclear weapons in its territory. Would Texan soldiers in the federal army defect?

Can the rest of the south go with it? At least Oklahoma?

Libertarian paradise, or conservative utopia?

I know I would be moving.

Pal.
Pal...
No.
You want to move to a country with rabid nationalistic frenzy, rampant racism, and piss poor civil rights, try Sudan.

Texas would need to be granted the right to secede from Congress, something which nobody (except for maybe the Democrats perhaps, as it would be a net loss for the Republicans) would ever consider supporting.

Isn't there always one group or another starting some kind of dumb secession petition over there?

Ifreann wrote:

Bentrada wrote:Well, if this petition gets enough signatures and the Supreme Court sees it, I'm sure they'll just let the second largest state (by population, area, and GDP) just become its own nation.

The Supreme Court wouldn't necessarily be involved.

Okay, then who would? The President? Congress? Both?

Revolutious wrote:

American Imperial Union wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/texas-secessionists-launch-petition-drive-vote-break-away-012823002.html

Think of that! What is they actually manage it?

Supreme Court ruling about gay marriage nullified.

Texas has nuclear weapons in its territory. Would Texan soldiers in the federal army defect?

Can the rest of the south go with it? At least Oklahoma?

Libertarian paradise, or conservative utopia?

I know I would be moving.

Pal.
Pal...
No.
You want to move to a country with rabid nationalistic frenzy, rampant racism, and piss poor civil rights, try Sudan.

Or you could just try any white suburb in Minnesota, or Michigan.

Cinnabarra wrote:I don't know if someone from Texas who also happens to be in the US army would defect.They swore to serve their country after all, right?

Which would be their country at that point, though? *Strokes chin* Hmmmm....

Bentrada wrote:Well, if this petition gets enough signatures and the Supreme Court sees it, I'm sure they'll just let the second largest state (by population, area, and GDP) just become its own nation.

I do hope they've learned from Texas v. White.

Benuty wrote:

Valrifell wrote:Man, Texans are such hypocrites. First they absolutely demand that the U.S. takes them in, tricking them into a war with another country just to be finally taken in, and now they want independence again? Gawd, make up your flippin' mind Texas.

To be fair that generation is dead so this new one hasn't lived in the environment those Texans did.

All they know is the ebil Washington government taking away their religious freedoms by allowing all monogamous pairings to establish marriage contracts nationwide.

TREASON!!!

To the FEMA concentration camps with you!

Juristonia wrote:Isn't there always one group or another starting some kind of dumb secession petition over there?

Yes. Almost all identifying with the same ideology

As a native-born Texan who still lives in the state, Texas secession is- to be blunt- an utterly stupid idea. There's no real reason for Texas to secede, it's illegal under US law, we'd get our asses handed to us if we tried, and there'd be no serious benefits even if we did succeed at seceding. The argument basically consists of some mixture of the "muh states rights" and "gubmint be treadin on me" and soforth that was used to justify Texas seceding in 1861, minus the "muh slavery" bit- though if the OP is any evidence then "muh homophobia" appears to have replaced it.

As for those of you from outside the state, the number of secessionists here is much lower than you'd expect. Having lived in the state for my entire life, I haven't met any actual Texan secessionists in the real world; I've only ever seen them online. The last time there was a big petition-for-independence push, the number of people who signed it amounted to less than two percent of the state's population, and most of the signatories weren't actually Texans.

Revolutious wrote:

American Imperial Union wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/texas-secessionists-launch-petition-drive-vote-break-away-012823002.html

Think of that! What is they actually manage it?

Supreme Court ruling about gay marriage nullified.

Texas has nuclear weapons in its territory. Would Texan soldiers in the federal army defect?

Can the rest of the south go with it? At least Oklahoma?

Libertarian paradise, or conservative utopia?

I know I would be moving.

Pal.
Pal...
No.
You want to move to a country with rabid nationalistic frenzy, rampant racism, and piss poor civil rights, try Sudan.

Are you seriously trying to compare Texas with Sudan? Seriously?

Pal, no. Don't even try to back up your point either.

Imperial Esplanade wrote:

Revolutious wrote:Pal.
Pal...
No.
You want to move to a country with rabid nationalistic frenzy, rampant racism, and piss poor civil rights, try Sudan.

Are you seriously trying to compare Texas with Sudan? Seriously?

Pal, no. Don't even try to back up your point either.

He's saying that Texas is better than Sudan. It's a comparison, but one which doesn't aim to demean Texas.

Revolutious wrote:

American Imperial Union wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/texas-secessionists-launch-petition-drive-vote-break-away-012823002.html

Think of that! What is they actually manage it?

Supreme Court ruling about gay marriage nullified.

Texas has nuclear weapons in its territory. Would Texan soldiers in the federal army defect?

Can the rest of the south go with it? At least Oklahoma?

Libertarian paradise, or conservative utopia?

I know I would be moving.

Pal.
Pal...
No.
You want to move to a country with rabid nationalistic frenzy, rampant racism, and piss poor civil rights, try Sudan.

I don't like Greg Abbott but he's not exactly Omar al-Bashir.

Bentrada wrote:

Ifreann wrote:The Supreme Court wouldn't necessarily be involved.

Okay, then who would? The President? Congress? Both?

Congress.

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Imperial Esplanade wrote:

Revolutious wrote:Pal.
Pal...
No.
You want to move to a country with rabid nationalistic frenzy, rampant racism, and piss poor civil rights, try Sudan.

Are you seriously trying to compare Texas with Sudan? Seriously?

Pal, no. Don't even try to back up your point either.

He seems to be comparing a hypothetical independent Texas with Sudan.

Ruridova wrote:

Revolutious wrote:Pal.
Pal...
No.
You want to move to a country with rabid nationalistic frenzy, rampant racism, and piss poor civil rights, try Sudan.

I don't exactly like Greg Abbott but he's not exactly Omar al-Bashir.

Besides that is the other Abbot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Abbott

Benuty wrote:

Ruridova wrote:I don't exactly like Greg Abbott but he's not exactly Omar al-Bashir.

Besides that is the other Abbot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Abbott

We have our own Abbott, unfortunately. He's not much better.

Ifreann wrote:

Imperial Esplanade wrote:
Are you seriously trying to compare Texas with Sudan? Seriously?

Pal, no. Don't even try to back up your point either.

He seems to be comparing a hypothetical independent Texas with Sudan.

Once again, Sudan is on an entirely different- and far worse- level.

Benuty wrote:

Revolutious wrote:Pal.
Pal...
No.
You want to move to a country with rabid nationalistic frenzy, rampant racism, and piss poor civil rights, try Sudan.

Or you could just try any white suburb in Minnesota, or Michigan.

Come to Northern Ireland, we've been known to have an explosive national identity problem

Benuty wrote:

Revolutious wrote:Pal.
Pal...
No.
You want to move to a country with rabid nationalistic frenzy, rampant racism, and piss poor civil rights, try Sudan.

Or you could just try any white suburb in Minnesota, or Michigan.

Because only working class whites not on the coast can be racists.