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Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:13 pm**

Ifreann wrote:The petition for a death star had more hope of achieving its goal.

Even though you need more resources than are available on Earth to actually build said Death Star.

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:14 pm**

You're a fool if you believe no state can just secede, why do they need permission to? That being said, we're not stupid. We won't secede from America because there won't be enough support for it. If Hilary miraculously wins the presidency of joe Biden does, then we would probably seriously consider it.

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:14 pm**

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The petition for a death star had more hope of achieving its goal.

Even though you need more resources than are available on Earth to actually build said Death Star.

Why not build a laser on the Moon, and dub it the "MURDER MOON!"

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:15 pm**

Seriously, the guy who wrote the OP should really take down the American flag he's using. I'm not big on patriotism in general, but their's something almost depraved about flying that flag while advocating secession.

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:15 pm**

American Imperial Union wrote:For me personally, it has less to do with Texas or even secession.

It's more of a rabid distaste and anger at what I percieve as liberal attempts to force their ideology down our throats through the federal government.

That's also why im so quick to suggest starving out cities or using nuclear weapons. A strike back, if you will, at the liberals who have been so effective in their efforts in the judiciary and legislative branches.

I feel no move can be immoral, no move too extreme in order to strike back. To put the liberal efforts in this country back and create a revolutionary situation where all the efforts of the liberals are defeated and all their "progress" completely erased, and those who have supported it dealt with.

Secession would be a great opportunity to create a conservative nation, so that both sides can have their little utopias and be left to their own designs. Of course there's an element of defiance. Id rather live in an independent Texas than spend more time than I must in a country I must share with the liberal ideology.

This amuses me immensely.

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:16 pm**

My god. If Texas keeps this up, there will be a time where people can actually say "At this point, Texas has launched more petitions for secession than North Korea made empty threats towards South Korea."

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:17 pm**

Dragonia Re Xzua wrote:My god. If Texas keeps this up, there will be a time where people can actually say "At this point, Texas has launched more petitions for secession than North Korea made empty threats towards South Korea."

Even though Texas doesn't even have control over the missiles stationed on their territory.

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:18 pm**

Dragonia Re Xzua wrote:My god. If Texas keeps this up, there will be a time where people can actually say "At this point, Texas has launched more petitions for secession than North Korea made empty threats towards South Korea."

Depending on who becomes our next president that maybe very soon

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:18 pm**

Fartsniffage wrote:
American Imperial Union wrote:For me personally, it has less to do with Texas or even secession.

It's more of a rabid distaste and anger at what I percieve as liberal attempts to force their ideology down our throats through the federal government.

That's also why im so quick to suggest starving out cities or using nuclear weapons. A strike back, if you will, at the liberals who have been so effective in their efforts in the judiciary and legislative branches.

I feel no move can be immoral, no move too extreme in order to strike back. To put the liberal efforts in this country back and create a revolutionary situation where all the efforts of the liberals are defeated and all their "progress" completely erased, and those who have supported it dealt with.

Secession would be a great opportunity to create a conservative nation, so that both sides can have their little utopias and be left to their own designs. Of course there's an element of defiance. Id rather live in an independent Texas than spend more time than I must in a country I must share with the liberal ideology.

This amuses me immensely.

I know. I'm sad I can't properly address it all in time because I'm at the airport.

Edit: wait, maybe I can if the plane has wifi...

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:20 pm**

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The petition for a death star had more hope of achieving its goal.

Even though you need more resources than are available on Earth to actually build said Death Star.

Hah! As if stupid things like it being physically impossible ever stopped us Americans! DEATH STAR 2016!

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:21 pm**

Tigeria wrote:You're a fool if you believe no state can just secede, why do they need permission to? That being said, we're not stupid. We won't secede from America because there won't be enough support for it. If Hilary miraculously wins the presidency of joe Biden does, then we would probably seriously consider it.

American Imperial Union thinks it can be done. You just have to systematically and cruelly exterminate millions of Americans, according to him. You know, for Jesus and stuff. Jesus preached total destruction of all that stands in your way constantly, so it is theologically sound.

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:21 pm**

American Imperial Union wrote:For me personally, it has less to do with Texas or even secession.

It's more of a rabid distaste and anger at what I percieve as liberal attempts to force their ideology down our throats through the federal government.

If by that you mean "expect you to adhere to a common set of laws that respect at least a 20th., if not a 21st. century understanding of human rights, then yes.

That's also why im so quick to suggest starving out cities or using nuclear weapons. A strike back, if you will, at the liberals who have been so effective in their efforts in the judiciary and legislative branches.

You would support mass murder out of spite towards people for daring to have different political values than you. That says everything I need to know about your character, or rather fundamental lack thereof.

I feel no move can be immoral, no move too extreme in order to strike back.

Then you have no sense of morality whatsoever.

To put the liberal efforts in this country back and create a revolutionary situation where all the efforts of the liberals are defeated and all their "progress" completely erased, and those who have supported it dealt with.

Its not often I say this in a political debate but:

I sincerely believe that you are an evil human being.

That or a liar/troll.

Secession would be a great opportunity to create a conservative nation, so that both sides can have their little utopias and be left to their own designs. Of course there's an element of defiance. Id rather live in an independent Texas than spend more time than I must in a country I must share with the liberal ideology.

Considering you just all but said you want liberals exterminated, don't give me this bullshit about both sides having a utopia.

What you want is a dictatorship that imposes your ideals on the people of America and murders anyone who isn't like you. And that makes you evil.

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:22 pm**

Tigeria wrote:
Dragonia Re Xzua wrote:My god. If Texas keeps this up, there will be a time where people can actually say "At this point, Texas has launched more petitions for secession than North Korea made empty threats towards South Korea."

Depending on who becomes our next president that maybe very soon

What would an election be without empty claims that you'll leave the country if your preferred candidate doesn't win?

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:23 pm**

The balkens wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:Even though you need more resources than are available on Earth to actually build said Death Star.

Why not build a laser on the Moon, and dub it the "MURDER MOON!"

That's no battle station, it's a moon!

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:24 pm**

The Romulan Republic wrote:What you want is a dictatorship that imposes your ideals on the people of America and murders anyone who isn't like you. And that makes you evil.

NOOOO! I wanted to pick that apart piece by piece! We are officially no longer friends.

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:24 pm**

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Tigeria wrote:You're a fool if you believe no state can just secede, why do they need permission to? That being said, we're not stupid. We won't secede from America because there won't be enough support for it. If Hilary miraculously wins the presidency of joe Biden does, then we would probably seriously consider it.

American Imperial Union thinks it can be done. You just have to systematically and cruelly exterminate millions of Americans, according to him. You know, for Jesus and stuff. Jesus preached total destruction of all that stands in your way constantly, so it is theologically sound.

His post is a waste of time to respond to. All I need to know is he's willing to murder innocent people who think for themselves.

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:24 pm**

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Tigeria wrote:Depending on who becomes our next president that maybe very soon

What would an election be without empty claims that you'll leave the country if your preferred candidate doesn't win?

Can't they just go to Canada? I've heard the arctic wilderness is beautiful this time of the year.

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:24 pm**

The Romulan Republic wrote:
American Imperial Union wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/texas-secessionists-launch-petition-drive-vote-break-away-012823002.html

Think of that! What is they actually manage it?

Supreme Court ruling about gay marriage nullified.

Texas has nuclear weapons in its territory. Would Texan soldiers in the federal army defect?

Can the rest of the south go with it? At least Oklahoma?

Libertarian paradise, or conservative utopia?

I know I would be moving.

1. Its not realistic. Texas won't go for it. And if they did, the Federal government wouldn't permit it. Texas having nuclear weapons would only mean that the Civil War MK II might be a nuclear war, which would end in either global ruin or China or Russia taking America's place as the dominant superpower if they were smart enough to stay out of it.

2. If US soldiers defected to such a state, they would be betraying their country, their oaths, and their duty.

2. That you would support this for the sake of basically recreating the Confederacy and taking marriage away from gay people is despicable. You dare to display an American flag while seeking to secede from and tear apart the US for the sake of your prejudice. Do you have no shame for your hypocrisy?

3. Such as state would be about as far from utopia or paradise as it gets. It would be a fucking theocracy with nuclear weapons. But maybe that's your idea of paradise. If so, I am sincerely glad you have no political power.

Pretty sure most people, including conservatives oppose both segregation and slavery. Women suffrage is strongly supported as well, by both parties. Im not prejudiced, I don't care about the whole gay thing. Marriage shouldn't be a government business, it's a church business.

I would prefer Russia over the Feds. And maybe it would be a Shit hole, but at least the remaining states would be like a liberal utopia for you. So what's the problem? You get your utopia, we get ours.

It's representative of my nationstates nation, an empire of all north America. And im too lazy to make my own.

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:24 pm**

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Tigeria wrote:
Depending on who becomes our next president that maybe very soon

What would an election be without empty claims that you'll leave the country if your preferred candidate doesn't win?

I swear, if Obama introduces universal healthcare, I'll move to Canada!

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:25 pm**

Communes of Europe wrote:
The balkens wrote:Why not build a laser on the Moon, and dub it the "MURDER MOON!"

That's no battle station, it's a moon!

Shyamalan plot twist!

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:25 pm**

Kheiastan wrote:
Polar Svalbard wrote:Texas legally cannot secede.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-determination
The United Nations disagrees.

The US doesn't normally listen to the UN. Why would they start doing so when there biggest state wants to secede?

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:26 pm**

Tigeria wrote:You're a fool if you believe no state can just secede, why do they need permission to? That being said, we're not stupid. We won't secede from America because there won't be enough support for it. If Hilary miraculously wins the presidency of joe Biden does, then we would probably seriously consider it.

I hope you at least have the decency not to pretend that you give a damn about democracy, like the Confederate hypocrites who were fine with elections until they lost.

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:26 pm**

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:What would an election be without empty claims that you'll leave the country if your preferred candidate doesn't win?

Can't they just go to Canada? I've heard the arctic wilderness is beautiful this time of the year.

Nah, going to Canada would require actual effort. Much easier to just whinge online.

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:26 pm**

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Tigeria wrote:
Depending on who becomes our next president that maybe very soon

What would an election be without empty claims that you'll leave the country if your preferred candidate doesn't win?

Right? just like the empty claims the entire south made just before the civil war

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:29 pm**

The Romulan Republic wrote:
Tigeria wrote:You're a fool if you believe no state can just secede, why do they need permission to? That being said, we're not stupid. We won't secede from America because there won't be enough support for it. If Hilary miraculously wins the presidency of joe Biden does, then we would probably seriously consider it.

I hope you at least have the decency not to pretend that you give a damn about democracy, like the Confederate hypocrites who were fine with elections until they lost.

I do give a damn about democracy, I'm just saying that just because you say secession is illegal, doesn't mean it's avoidable. It could happen. Also I'd prefer Texas to stay in America.

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