Texas secessionists launch petition drive

[Gauthier]

Isn't this the same State of Texas that cracked down on a bunch of secessionists clowns calling itself The Republic of Texas?

[Benuty]

Congress won't. And you'd have to be out of your mind to even consider using one on the same continent as yourself.

Especially against another nuclear power.

Don't worry the Yellowstone Super Volcano will kill everyone anyway.

[American Imperial Union]

Not if Congress consents.

Oh, and nukes.

Which they don't control nor have access to the launch codes

I thought launch codes were just to confirm the legitimacy of the order, not permit the actual use of said weapons. Besides, do bombs themselves on airforce facilities have that protection? Nothing enhanced interrogation techniques can't handle. And just the threat of nukes might make the feds think twice.

Would the feds launch a retaliatory strike against what they consider their own territory? Not helping their argument or winning any friends. And we've tested nukes in America before, we didn't turn into a wasteland.

Not all nukes are tsar Bomba

[Lauranienne]

Which they don't control nor have access to the launch codes

I thought launch codes were just to confirm the legitimacy of the order, not permit the actual use of said weapons. Besides, do bombs themselves on airforce facilities have that protection? Nothing enhanced interrogation techniques can't handle. And just the threat of nukes might make the feds think twice.

Only the president of the US has the launch codes, and the launch codes are the only way to gain the ability to fire the nukes

[The balkens]

Which they don't control nor have access to the launch codes

I thought launch codes were just to confirm the legitimacy of the order, not permit the actual use of said weapons. Besides, do bombs themselves on airforce facilities have that protection? Nothing enhanced interrogation techniques can't handle. And just the threat of nukes might make the feds think twice.

Try getting launch orders then.

[New Ogunquit]

Especially against another nuclear power.

Don't worry the Yellowstone Super Volcano will kill everyone anyway.

That's the spirit!

[Benuty]

Which they don't control nor have access to the launch codes

I thought launch codes were just to confirm the legitimacy of the order, not permit the actual use of said weapons. Besides, do bombs themselves on airforce facilities have that protection? Nothing enhanced interrogation techniques can't handle. And just the threat of nukes might make the feds think twice.

Ah yes the lives of millions coming to an instantly horrifying conclusion, and millions more dying of radiation, burns, and other horrible maladies. Say hello to Winston Churchill for me since I plan on being underground.

[Deuxtete]

Hmmm being a native Detroiter I don't recall roadblocks ...I'm betting you don't either.

Because maybe they didn't want residents from the motor city coming into their neighborhood?

From possibly the flimsiest of reasons ever.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015 ... sse-pointe

Lol I lived at alter road and Jefferson avenue, drove up lakeshore drive everyday to work...nice bit of fake news there.

Grosse point is one of the wealthiest zipcodes in the nation...and its microscopic. There were no fucking road blocks...you fucking people will make up anything, then contrive it into "suburbs" as if inkster, Dearborn, Southfield, oakpark, ecorse, wyandotte, mount Clemens, warren, were all the exact same as Grosse point which is barely the size of a neighborhood.
While you're indicting them, then count their violent crime rate for all suburbs too, since you're not really concerned with facts.

[The Alexanderians]

Texas legally cannot secede.

*sigh*Everywhere in the world anytime there is a succession movement someone has to say "But they can not into legal leavings!" Oh well? Like whether it's legal or not really isn't going to stop someone. The American Civil War and the American Revolution both were illegal. The Baltics were illegal. Any number of moments in history have illegal successions. Of course it's going to be illegal! What else would it be? What nation would have it that any territory could secede at their leisure? Examples like former British possessions were done either through outside pressure, a referendum, or looong winded political movements.

So no kidding it would be illegal, but who cares? It's a question of will they or won't they not of are they allowed to? Actually kind of like "Who will stop me" as opposed to "Who will let me?". The answer here is the rest of the states, but the fact that Texas has nukes all they need to do is get a hold of them and threaten retaliation. Big bada boom they succeed.

Now if that doesn't occur you can be sure they would be pounded back into submission but it will likely take a long time and even if successful the way current politics work there certainly won't be a reconstruction era for this war. Creating tensions for years to come. Might even end up being the Americans' version of Chechnya. In any of these cases I can't see a good outcome only less crappy ones.

[American Imperial Union]

I thought launch codes were just to confirm the legitimacy of the order, not permit the actual use of said weapons. Besides, do bombs themselves on airforce facilities have that protection? Nothing enhanced interrogation techniques can't handle. And just the threat of nukes might make the feds think twice.

Ah yes the lives of millions coming to an instantly horrifying conclusion, and millions more dying of radiation, burns, and other horrible maladies. Say hello to Winston Churchill for me since I plan on being underground.

The feds arent stupid enough to instigate nuclear war or risk it by invading the Republic of Texas. And you don't need orders if you seize the nuclear weapons themselves.

[The balkens]

Ah yes the lives of millions coming to an instantly horrifying conclusion, and millions more dying of radiation, burns, and other horrible maladies. Say hello to Winston Churchill for me since I plan on being underground.

The feds arent stupid enough to instigate nuclear war or risk it by invading the Republic of Texas. And you don't need orders if you seize the nuclear weapons themselves.

No risk in invading something that doesnt exist.

[Lauranienne]

Ah yes the lives of millions coming to an instantly horrifying conclusion, and millions more dying of radiation, burns, and other horrible maladies. Say hello to Winston Churchill for me since I plan on being underground.

The feds arent stupid enough to instigate nuclear war or risk it by invading the Republic of Texas. And you don't need orders if you seize the nuclear weapons themselves.

If you seize the weapons, congratulations! You know have no way to fire them, so you win a missile of deadly material that you can't even use!

[New Ogunquit]

Ah yes the lives of millions coming to an instantly horrifying conclusion, and millions more dying of radiation, burns, and other horrible maladies. Say hello to Winston Churchill for me since I plan on being underground.

The feds arent stupid enough to instigate nuclear war or risk it by invading the Republic of Texas. And you don't need orders if you seize the nuclear weapons themselves.

1) It hasn't even done that yet, get over yourself it's not its own Republic.
2) Texas is a backwards state, but I'm pretty sure they're smart enough not to use nuclear weapons either.

[Benuty]

Because maybe they didn't want residents from the motor city coming into their neighborhood?

From possibly the flimsiest of reasons ever.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015 ... sse-pointe

Lol I lived at alter road and Jefferson avenue, drove up lakeshore drive everyday to work...nice bit of fake news there.

Grosse point is one of the wealthiest zipcodes in the nation...and its microscopic. There were no fucking road blocks...you fucking people will make up anything, then contrive it into "suburbs" as if inkster, Dearborn, Southfield, oakpark, ecorse, wyandotte, mount Clemens, warren, were all the exact same as Grosse point which is barely the size of a neighborhood.
While you're indicting them, then count their violent crime rate for all suburbs too, since you're not really concerned with facts.

All of which is hardly relevant since you by all accounts don't exist outside my perceived imagination. For all I know someone could be simulating me simulating you among this simulated forum amongst this simulated world. Either way the horrors of existence burden your shattered consciousness to to the hereafter, and please do say goodbye to Hal 9000 for me. I have had such a lovely time, but October 23rd, 2077 has come, and your time is up for the Chinese are coming.

Also congratulations on searching my entire history to determine that generalized statement since you are a simulation it is to be expected of you.

[Ruridova]

Will cities secede from Texas?

Doubtful, considering they are surrounded by Texas. Making it rather unpracticable. Requiring Texas for all their resources, and those resources not locally acquired would have to pass through Texas. It's far more likely that those opposed to secession will just pack up and move. Just like the loyalists after the revolution.

I live in Texas. Specifically, I live in Dallas. The stereotype of Texan is backward far-rightist red dog Republican "fuck the gubmint" conspiracy theorist with a small arsenal and a minimal vocabulary. That stereotype has some basis in the rural areas of the state, but it doesn't apply whatsoever to the leftist areas of the state.

Leftists in Texas, you say? Yes, we exist. We live in the cities- Austin, Houston, Dallas, Fort Worth, San Antonio, El Paso, and the like. Minority populations here- blacks and Hispanics predominantly, but there's an increasingly large immigrant community from East Asia, the Middle East, and Africa- often vote leftist as well, generally because of the attitudes that some Texas rightists have towards people who aren't white Anglo-Saxon Protestants.

While there may be support for secession in rural areas, I haven't seen a trace of it in Texas' major urban centers. A war of secession would ruin the Texas economy and would place leftists in an overwhelmingly rightist self-declared nation. There's no way that urban Texans would tolerate that situation. Trust me- I am one, I live among them, I interact with them everyday. We make jokes about the concept of Texas seceding; it's a joke proposal to us, not a serious thing we might support or tolerate. It's almost guaranteed that cities and urban counties would remain loyal to the United States because secession offers us nothing. And trust me, the entire population of all of Texas' major population centers aren't going to just pack up and leave. It's just not happening. Texan cities would remain within the United States, and we wouldn't give it a second thought.

[American Imperial Union]

Will cities secede from Texas?

Doubtful, considering they are surrounded by Texas. Making it rather unpracticable. Requiring Texas for all their resources, and those resources not locally acquired would have to pass through Texas. It's far more likely that those opposed to secession will just pack up and move. Just like the loyalists after the revolution.

I live in Texas. Specifically, I live in Dallas. The stereotype of Texan is backward far-rightist red dog Republican "fuck the gubmint" conspiracy theorist with a small arsenal and a minimal vocabulary. That stereotype has some basis in the rural areas of the state, but it doesn't apply whatsoever to the leftist areas of the state.

Leftists in Texas, you say? Yes, we exist. We live in the cities- Austin, Houston, Dallas, Fort Worth, San Antonio, El Paso, and the like. Minority populations here- blacks and Hispanics predominantly, but there's an increasingly large immigrant community from East Asia, the Middle East, and Africa- often vote leftist as well, generally because of the attitudes that some Texas rightists have towards people who aren't white Anglo-Saxon Protestants.

While there may be support for secession in rural areas, I haven't seen a trace of it in Texas' major urban centers. A war of secession would ruin the Texas economy and would place leftists in an overwhelmingly rightist self-declared nation. There's no way that urban Texans would tolerate that situation. Trust me- I am one, I live among them, I interact with them everyday. We make jokes about the concept of Texas seceding; it's a joke proposal to us, not a serious thing we might support or tolerate. It's almost guaranteed that cities and urban counties would remain loyal to the United States because secession offers us nothing. And trust me, the entire population of all of Texas' major population centers aren't going to just pack up and leave. It's just not happening. Texan cities would remain within the United States, and we wouldn't give it a second thought.

Then we'll cut resources and starve them out.

[Lauranienne]

I live in Texas. Specifically, I live in Dallas. The stereotype of Texan is backward far-rightist red dog Republican "fuck the gubmint" conspiracy theorist with a small arsenal and a minimal vocabulary. That stereotype has some basis in the rural areas of the state, but it doesn't apply whatsoever to the leftist areas of the state.

Leftists in Texas, you say? Yes, we exist. We live in the cities- Austin, Houston, Dallas, Fort Worth, San Antonio, El Paso, and the like. Minority populations here- blacks and Hispanics predominantly, but there's an increasingly large immigrant community from East Asia, the Middle East, and Africa- often vote leftist as well, generally because of the attitudes that some Texas rightists have towards people who aren't white Anglo-Saxon Protestants.

While there may be support for secession in rural areas, I haven't seen a trace of it in Texas' major urban centers. A war of secession would ruin the Texas economy and would place leftists in an overwhelmingly rightist self-declared nation. There's no way that urban Texans would tolerate that situation. Trust me- I am one, I live among them, I interact with them everyday. We make jokes about the concept of Texas seceding; it's a joke proposal to us, not a serious thing we might support or tolerate. It's almost guaranteed that cities and urban counties would remain loyal to the United States because secession offers us nothing. And trust me, the entire population of all of Texas' major population centers aren't going to just pack up and leave. It's just not happening. Texan cities would remain within the United States, and we wouldn't give it a second thought.

Then we'll cut resources and starve them out.

I'm pretty sure the US would just do a Dallas version of the Berlin Airlift, of course it wouldn't be necessary as the US military would rip your one apart in days

[The Forsworn Knights]

I live in Texas. Specifically, I live in Dallas. The stereotype of Texan is backward far-rightist red dog Republican "fuck the gubmint" conspiracy theorist with a small arsenal and a minimal vocabulary. That stereotype has some basis in the rural areas of the state, but it doesn't apply whatsoever to the leftist areas of the state.

Leftists in Texas, you say? Yes, we exist. We live in the cities- Austin, Houston, Dallas, Fort Worth, San Antonio, El Paso, and the like. Minority populations here- blacks and Hispanics predominantly, but there's an increasingly large immigrant community from East Asia, the Middle East, and Africa- often vote leftist as well, generally because of the attitudes that some Texas rightists have towards people who aren't white Anglo-Saxon Protestants.

While there may be support for secession in rural areas, I haven't seen a trace of it in Texas' major urban centers. A war of secession would ruin the Texas economy and would place leftists in an overwhelmingly rightist self-declared nation. There's no way that urban Texans would tolerate that situation. Trust me- I am one, I live among them, I interact with them everyday. We make jokes about the concept of Texas seceding; it's a joke proposal to us, not a serious thing we might support or tolerate. It's almost guaranteed that cities and urban counties would remain loyal to the United States because secession offers us nothing. And trust me, the entire population of all of Texas' major population centers aren't going to just pack up and leave. It's just not happening. Texan cities would remain within the United States, and we wouldn't give it a second thought.

Then we'll cut resources and starve them out.

Someone mentioned Texas getting a private gold stockpile, but I recall gold failing for a certain American country once apon a time.

[Benuty]

I live in Texas. Specifically, I live in Dallas. The stereotype of Texan is backward far-rightist red dog Republican "fuck the gubmint" conspiracy theorist with a small arsenal and a minimal vocabulary. That stereotype has some basis in the rural areas of the state, but it doesn't apply whatsoever to the leftist areas of the state.

Leftists in Texas, you say? Yes, we exist. We live in the cities- Austin, Houston, Dallas, Fort Worth, San Antonio, El Paso, and the like. Minority populations here- blacks and Hispanics predominantly, but there's an increasingly large immigrant community from East Asia, the Middle East, and Africa- often vote leftist as well, generally because of the attitudes that some Texas rightists have towards people who aren't white Anglo-Saxon Protestants.

While there may be support for secession in rural areas, I haven't seen a trace of it in Texas' major urban centers. A war of secession would ruin the Texas economy and would place leftists in an overwhelmingly rightist self-declared nation. There's no way that urban Texans would tolerate that situation. Trust me- I am one, I live among them, I interact with them everyday. We make jokes about the concept of Texas seceding; it's a joke proposal to us, not a serious thing we might support or tolerate. It's almost guaranteed that cities and urban counties would remain loyal to the United States because secession offers us nothing. And trust me, the entire population of all of Texas' major population centers aren't going to just pack up and leave. It's just not happening. Texan cities would remain within the United States, and we wouldn't give it a second thought.

Then we'll cut resources and starve them out.

You know the Germans tried that at Leningrad, and it was morally abhorrent. So why try to repeat history?

[Polar Svalbard]

I live in Texas. Specifically, I live in Dallas. The stereotype of Texan is backward far-rightist red dog Republican "fuck the gubmint" conspiracy theorist with a small arsenal and a minimal vocabulary. That stereotype has some basis in the rural areas of the state, but it doesn't apply whatsoever to the leftist areas of the state.

Leftists in Texas, you say? Yes, we exist. We live in the cities- Austin, Houston, Dallas, Fort Worth, San Antonio, El Paso, and the like. Minority populations here- blacks and Hispanics predominantly, but there's an increasingly large immigrant community from East Asia, the Middle East, and Africa- often vote leftist as well, generally because of the attitudes that some Texas rightists have towards people who aren't white Anglo-Saxon Protestants.

While there may be support for secession in rural areas, I haven't seen a trace of it in Texas' major urban centers. A war of secession would ruin the Texas economy and would place leftists in an overwhelmingly rightist self-declared nation. There's no way that urban Texans would tolerate that situation. Trust me- I am one, I live among them, I interact with them everyday. We make jokes about the concept of Texas seceding; it's a joke proposal to us, not a serious thing we might support or tolerate. It's almost guaranteed that cities and urban counties would remain loyal to the United States because secession offers us nothing. And trust me, the entire population of all of Texas' major population centers aren't going to just pack up and leave. It's just not happening. Texan cities would remain within the United States, and we wouldn't give it a second thought.

Then we'll cut resources and starve them out.

So the minority, will withstand attacks from the majority? You know the ones that have the majority population, military, and money. The US can Airlift supplies, or will bust right through whatever halfassed blockade a bunch of overglorified rednecks can construct

[Benuty]

Then we'll cut resources and starve them out.

I'm pretty sure the US would just do a Dallas version of the Berlin Airlift

Probably considering an American city starving doesn't look good to the public.

[New Ogunquit]

Then we'll cut resources and starve them out.

You know the Germans tried that at Leningrad, and it was morally questionable. So why try to repeat history?

Because Texas will then annex the south, Midwest, and Alaska, finally forming the republic of Jesusland.

[Benuty]

You know the Germans tried that at Leningrad, and it was morally questionable. So why try to repeat history?

Because Texas will then annex the south, Midwest, and Alaska, finally forming the republic of Jesusland.

That map has changed a lot since it was made though.

[New Ogunquit]

Because Texas will then annex the south, Midwest, and Alaska, finally forming the republic of Jesusland.

That map has changed a lot since it was made though.

Sarah Palin will be prime minister for life.

[Benuty]

That map has changed a lot since it was made though.

Sarah Palin will be prime minister for life.

Not if the wildlife have anything to say about it.