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by Gauthier » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:17 pm
by Benuty » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:17 pm
Imperial Esplanade wrote:The Forsworn Knights wrote:1 The United States federal military is not permitted to under any circumstances take action against united states citizens.
2 Texas would not be able to use their nukes, due to their not possessing the launch codes.
3 Their economy would collapse.
4 Cities would secede from Texas.
5 People would rebel against the Texan government.
6 We would probably ignore 1 and send soldiers to secure the territory and nukes anyway.
7 You dont want unstable micro-countries with high-class military hardware and poor economies running around on the Mexican border, thats just asking for the more powerful cartels to waltz over and claim an independant nation for themselves.
Eh, I know that Texas didn't last economically when they were independent before... but I actually think they would survive if (and that's a HUGE if]) succession ever did happen.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas#Economy
People don't realize that Texas actually has a very strong economy that, yes while dependent on other states, could absorb quite the shock. Doesn't hurt that Texas is currently building its' own state-owned gold warehouse to protect itself economically. They won't be an economic powerhouse by any means, but I suspect they'll survive.
by New Ogunquit » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:19 pm
Benuty wrote:Have Kim Jong Un send us a strong worded rant probably. When they aren't bitching at the UK to let go of the Falklands.
Ifreann wrote:Farn be locking threads like they were bridges.
Ifreann wrote:Political correctness needs to go further, because the tears of people crying over being called on their bullshit fuel my time machine.Quintium wrote:Just another symptom of self-hatred in Western Europe and North America. Don't worry, it'll all end in war. But for the moment, try not to be too white if you don't want to be discriminated against.
Yes, more tears...
by Deuxtete » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:19 pm
Benuty wrote:Deuxtete wrote:What sarcasm, your position was plainly stated and you defended it...by citing a single incident.
You weren't being sarcastic, don't back peddle.
Only working class white people not on the coasts can be racist, its a horse shit position to hold, but at least own it.
Why should I own to a position when I was clearly fucking with you?
by Benuty » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:21 pm
by The Elven Imperium » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:22 pm
The Forsworn Knights wrote:Valrifell wrote:
Will that stop the US military from rolling in and crushing their hopes and dreams for an independent Texas?
1 The United States federal military is not permitted to under any circumstances take action against united states citizens.
2 Texas would not be able to use their nukes, due to their not possessing the launch codes.
3 Their economy would collapse.
4 Cities would secede from Texas.
5 People would rebel against the Texan government.
6 We would probably ignore 1 and send soldiers to secure the territory and nukes anyway.
7 You dont want unstable micro-countries with high-class military hardware and poor economies running around on the Mexican border, thats just asking for the more powerful cartels to waltz over and claim an independant nation for themselves.
Kheiastan wrote:Polar Svalbard wrote:Texas legally cannot secede.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-determination
The United Nations disagrees.
by American Imperial Union » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:22 pm
by Ifreann » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:23 pm
Kheiastan wrote:Polar Svalbard wrote:Texas legally cannot secede.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-determination
The United Nations disagrees.
by Deuxtete » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:23 pm
by Benuty » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:24 pm
by Polar Svalbard » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:25 pm
American Imperial Union wrote:Is it treason?
Not if you've never sworn allegiance to the United states.
Founding fathers were traitors and wrote a declaration of independence saying a people had the right to overthrow government.
That's the thing about treason. You lose and your just a bunch of traitors spouting evil and immoral secession. But winning has an odd way of making traitors into heroes. Let's not forget they'd have hung all the founding fathers, who had all in the past swore allegiance to the king.
Is it illegal?
No. Texas vs. White is the ruling that says secession is illegal and they lay out several legal ways for a state to secede. I shall quote the majority opinion from Texas vs white regarding that;
"The union between Texas and the other States was as complete, as perpetual, and as indissoluble as the union between the original States. There was no place for reconsideration or revocation, except through revolution or through consent of the States. " - - Chief Justice Salmon p. Chase. Texas vs. White.
Will Texas turn into Sudan or some other third world hole?
No. Texas is far too advanced and the Texas state government, for all its problems, is far more effective.
It's not an uncommon argument for those opposed to secession to say any state that secedes will simply turn into a third world shithole if they go more than 15 minutes without the guidance of the federal government. But that's just ideological rhetoric, lacking evidence and not based on fact. Not saying Texas would necessarily be an economic paradise, but it won't turn into Sudan.
Will cities secede from Texas?
Doubtful, considering they are surrounded by Texas. Making it rather unpracticable. Requiring Texas for all their resources, and those resources not locally acquired would have to pass through Texas. It's far more likely that those opposed to secession will just pack up and move. Just like the loyalists after the revolution.
by Deuxtete » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:25 pm
by Ifreann » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:26 pm
American Imperial Union wrote:Is it treason?
Not if you've never sworn allegiance to the United states.
Founding fathers were traitors and wrote a declaration of independence saying a people had the right to overthrow government.
by Lauranienne » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:27 pm
by Gauthier » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:27 pm
by American Imperial Union » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:27 pm
by Lauranienne » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:28 pm
by Ifreann » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:28 pm
Lauranienne wrote:If Texas declared independence and tried to fight against the US military, the equivalence factor would be like a baby (Texas) taking on the Predator
by Benuty » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:28 pm
by Nord Amour » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:28 pm
by The balkens » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:28 pm
by Lauranienne » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:29 pm
by New Ogunquit » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:29 pm
Ifreann wrote:Farn be locking threads like they were bridges.
Ifreann wrote:Political correctness needs to go further, because the tears of people crying over being called on their bullshit fuel my time machine.Quintium wrote:Just another symptom of self-hatred in Western Europe and North America. Don't worry, it'll all end in war. But for the moment, try not to be too white if you don't want to be discriminated against.
Yes, more tears...
by Benuty » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:30 pm
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