Texas secessionists launch petition drive

[Ruridova]

I can confirm that DFW, Austin, Houston, San Antonio, and El Paso would probably try to GTFO of any independent Texas.

Yeah, that's why I said it. That's also why Texas won't secede.

I mean, could we let the backwards rural "hussein obummer's jade helm is comin to putchyer guns in a FEMA camp" parts secede, and keep the urban and suburban areas in the US? Just so that we don't have to deal with them anymore?

[Katyuscha]

Yeah, that's why I said it. That's also why Texas won't secede.

I mean, could we let the backwards rural "hussein obummer's jade helm is comin to putchyer guns in a FEMA camp" parts secede, and keep the urban and suburban areas in the US? Just so that we don't have to deal with them anymore?

Let them secede. Let them declare war. Let them be annihilated

[Ruridova]

It would be a serious loss for Texas. The federal government is the main thing keeping our state's crazy politicians in check.

I am not from Texas.

Yes, well, I am, and I have no will to see Texas secede.

[Benuty]

I mean, could we let the backwards rural "hussein obummer's jade helm is comin to putchyer guns in a FEMA camp" parts secede, and keep the urban and suburban areas in the US? Just so that we don't have to deal with them anymore?

Let them secede. Let them declare war. Let them be annihilated

Only the insurance companies will profit in the end.

[Ruridova]

I mean, could we let the backwards rural "hussein obummer's jade helm is comin to putchyer guns in a FEMA camp" parts secede, and keep the urban and suburban areas in the US? Just so that we don't have to deal with them anymore?

Let them secede. Let them declare war. Let them be annihilated

2015 Texas War of Secession, summary:

"Trust me, guys, my pappy's huntin' rifle can defnitly stop that fleet of flyin' gubmint death machines!"

[Deuxtete]

Again, only whites.
Also one incident, quite the chronic phenomenon.

Your position is in a pig's ass.

I fail to see your point, and all things considering why insult the pig?

We use their blood, and organs after all.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenotransfusion

On that note you either lack the capacity for a sarcasm meter or need to visit a doctor for that chip in your shoulder.

What sarcasm, your position was plainly stated and you defended it...by citing a single incident.
You weren't being sarcastic, don't back peddle.
Only working class white people not on the coasts can be racist, its a horse shit position to hold, but at least own it.

[Vaikneland]

Vladmir Putin funds and supports them...

Doubt it, if it were up to the government of the state of Texas, they'd launch all of the nukes at anyone they deem Un-'murican. Watch out Britain.

He may, because he doesn't exactly like America, so he may approve of something that would make us weaker... It doesn't make the secession movement bad.

[New Ogunquit]

I am not from Texas.

Yes, well, I am, and I have no will to see Texas secede.

Why not? My master plan will be 1/3 complete if they do. All we'd need after that is to get California and Vermont on board...

[Benuty]

Let them secede. Let them declare war. Let them be annihilated

2015 Texas War of Secession, summary:

"Trust me, guys, my pappy's huntin' rifle can defnitly stop that fleet of flyin' gubmint death machines!"

In before Ron Paul's video about a hypothetical invasion of Texas from an outside nation becomes reality.

[Celseon]

> Texas leaves the Union
> Texan cities leave Texas
> Border disputes for decades

I can confirm that DFW, Austin, Houston, San Antonio, and El Paso would probably try to GTFO of any independent Texas.

So they'll be extremely sparsely populated, have no nuclear arms, and be short of several of their current economic hubs.

This is such a good plan, guys.

[The Forsworn Knights]

Technically, when a state secedes from another state, the laws of the state they secede from do not apply to the seceding state. Thus the legality of the secession becomes moot.

Will that stop the US military from rolling in and crushing their hopes and dreams for an independent Texas?

1 The United States federal military is not permitted to under any circumstances take action against united states citizens.
2 Texas would not be able to use their nukes, due to their not possessing the launch codes.
3 Their economy would collapse.
4 Cities would secede from Texas.
5 People would rebel against the Texan government.
6 We would probably ignore 1 and send soldiers to secure the territory and nukes anyway.
7 You dont want unstable micro-countries with high-class military hardware and poor economies running around on the Mexican border, thats just asking for the more powerful cartels to waltz over and claim an independant nation for themselves.

[Ruridova]

Yes, well, I am, and I have no will to see Texas secede.

Why not? My master plan will be 1/3 complete if they do. All we'd need after that is to get California and Vermont on board...

Because if the US military didn't reduce Texas to a smoking crater within the week, then the people running this state would plow it into the ground.

[Kheiastan]

Texas legally cannot secede.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-determination
The United Nations disagrees.

[Benuty]

I fail to see your point, and all things considering why insult the pig?

We use their blood, and organs after all.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenotransfusion

On that note you either lack the capacity for a sarcasm meter or need to visit a doctor for that chip in your shoulder.

What sarcasm, your position was plainly stated and you defended it...by citing a single incident.
You weren't being sarcastic, don't back peddle.
Only working class white people not on the coasts can be racist, its a horse shit position to hold, but at least own it.

Why should I own to a position when I was clearly fucking with you?

[New Ogunquit]

Why not? My master plan will be 1/3 complete if they do. All we'd need after that is to get California and Vermont on board...

Because if the US military didn't reduce Texas to a smoking crater within the week, then the people running this state would plow it into the ground.

How serious do you think I am?

[Valrifell]

Will that stop the US military from rolling in and crushing their hopes and dreams for an independent Texas?

1 The United States federal military is not permitted to under any circumstances take action against united states citizens.
2 Texas would not be able to use their nukes, due to their not possessing the launch codes.
3 Their economy would collapse.
4 Cities would secede from Texas.
5 People would rebel against the Texan government.
6 We would probably ignore 1 and send soldiers to secure the territory and nukes anyway.
7 You dont want unstable micro-countries with high-class military hardware and poor economies running around on the Mexican border, thats just asking for the more powerful cartels to waltz over and claim an independant nation for themselves.

1. But if they secede, are they really still U.S. citizens?

[Ruridova]

Because if the US military didn't reduce Texas to a smoking crater within the week, then the people running this state would plow it into the ground.

How serious do you think I am?

You're not, but I might as well state the serious reasoning anyways and hope that any whackjob secessionist reading this thread gets the message.

[Benuty]

Because if the US military didn't reduce Texas to a smoking crater within the week, then the people running this state would plow it into the ground.

How serious do you think I am?

Serious enough to assassinate Harvey Birdman.

[Polar Svalbard]

Texas legally cannot secede.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-determination
The United Nations disagrees.

The Constitution disagrees and the US Constitution is more powerful than the UN in a matter such as this

[New Ogunquit]

How serious do you think I am?

You're not, but I might as well state the serious reasoning anyways and hope that any whackjob secessionist reading this thread gets the message.

Ah. I can respect that.

Texas legally cannot secede.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-determination
The United Nations disagrees.

Pfft what are they even going to do? Gently Scold us to death?

[The Forsworn Knights]

1 The United States federal military is not permitted to under any circumstances take action against united states citizens.
2 Texas would not be able to use their nukes, due to their not possessing the launch codes.
3 Their economy would collapse.
4 Cities would secede from Texas.
5 People would rebel against the Texan government.
6 We would probably ignore 1 and send soldiers to secure the territory and nukes anyway.
7 You dont want unstable micro-countries with high-class military hardware and poor economies running around on the Mexican border, thats just asking for the more powerful cartels to waltz over and claim an independant nation for themselves.

1. But if they secede, are they really still U.S. citizens?

After the civil war the sale of bonds by the CSA were rendered null and void, due to the secession never being officially recognised by the United States government, with the Confederate states still being officially considered members of the United States.

[Imperial Esplanade]

Will that stop the US military from rolling in and crushing their hopes and dreams for an independent Texas?

1 The United States federal military is not permitted to under any circumstances take action against united states citizens.
2 Texas would not be able to use their nukes, due to their not possessing the launch codes.
3 Their economy would collapse.
4 Cities would secede from Texas.
5 People would rebel against the Texan government.
6 We would probably ignore 1 and send soldiers to secure the territory and nukes anyway.
7 You dont want unstable micro-countries with high-class military hardware and poor economies running around on the Mexican border, thats just asking for the more powerful cartels to waltz over and claim an independant nation for themselves.

Eh, I know that Texas didn't last economically when they were independent before... but I actually think they would survive if (and that's a HUGE if]) succession ever did happen.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas#Economy

People don't realize that Texas actually has a very strong economy that, yes while dependent on other states, could absorb quite the shock. Doesn't hurt that Texas is currently building its' own state-owned gold warehouse to protect itself economically. They won't be an economic powerhouse by any means, but I suspect they'll survive.

[Benuty]

You're not, but I might as well state the serious reasoning anyways and hope that any whackjob secessionist reading this thread gets the message.

Ah. I can respect that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-determination
The United Nations disagrees.

Pfft what are they even going to do? Gently Scold us to death?

Have Kim Jong Un send us a strong worded rant probably. When they aren't bitching at the UK to let go of the Falklands.

[New Ogunquit]

How serious do you think I am?

Serious enough to assassinate Harvey Birdman.

I'll clip his wings before I slit his throat...

[USS Monitor]

http://news.yahoo.com/texas-secessionists-launch-petition-drive-vote-break-away-012823002.html

Think of that! What is they actually manage it?

Supreme Court ruling about gay marriage nullified.

Would not happen. Moving the borders of the US would not change what the law is for states that remain in the Union. You're misusing the word "nullified."

Texas has nuclear weapons in its territory. Would Texan soldiers in the federal army defect?

Why does it seem like every Southerner who talks about secession immediately start going off about it from a military point of view? This is why the South can't rise again.

If it comes to war, Texas will lose. The harder they fight, the harder they will lose. Steal a nuke and use it against another state or DC and every city in Texas will be wiped off the map by the Union's retaliation.

Can the rest of the south go with it? At least Oklahoma?

No, because you keep going off half-cocked about nuclear arsenals and soldiers defecting.

Libertarian paradise, or conservative utopia?

Radioactive parking lot if they went at it with your attitude.

Luckily, they seem to be slightly more rational. I'm thinking it would still be a right-wing craphole, but they have a right to secede as long as they keep it peaceful.

I know I would be moving.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Those doors have anger management issues, you know.