Kentucky County Clerk Denies Gay Marriage Licenses

[The Flutterlands]

I would love to have a creation vs. evolution debate with you, but we'll have to save that for a different thread.

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopi ... &start=500

Have fun

Your link doesn't work.

[Dyakovo]

There is a difference between equal rights and equal endeavors. Heterosexual and homosexual marriage are fundamentally different, unlike, say, the right of a black man and the right of a white man to ride at the front of a public bus.

How are they fundamentally different in the eyes of the law?

They aren't.

[Neu California]

Ugh this annoys me so much. You can't throw someone in jail to practice their religion. Read the Bill if Rights please. If you have an issue with it, GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY. No one wants you here anyway.

She wasn't thrown in jail because of her religion. She was thrown in jail because she refused to do her job as an elected official and tried to deny rights granted to people, violating the 14th amendment.

[Neutraligon]

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=352913&hilit=The+truth+of+the+bible&start=500

Have fun

Your link doesn't work.

That's odd works for me.

[Neutraligon]

Ugh this annoys me so much. You can't throw someone in jail to practice their religion. Read the Bill if Rights please. If you have an issue with it, GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY. No one wants you here anyway.

You can however throw someone in jail for contempt of court.

[Arach-Naga Combine]

Ugh this annoys me so much. You can't throw someone in jail to practice their religion. Read the Bill if Rights please. If you have an issue with it, GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY. No one wants you here anyway.

She's in jail because she broke a court order that basically read "DO YOUR JOB". She didn't do her job, so she was placed in jail, exactly as the court order said. If you don't like that, you can get the hell out of MY country. It has laws.

[San Llera]

Ugh this annoys me so much. You can't throw someone in jail to practice their religion. Read the Bill if Rights please. If you have an issue with it, GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY. No one wants you here anyway.

You can throw someone in jail for disobeying the law.

Also, it's not your country.

[Vaikneland]

Ugh this annoys me so much. You can't throw someone in jail to practice their religion. Read the Bill if Rights please. If you have an issue with it, GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY. No one wants you here anyway.

She's in jail because she broke a court order that basically read "DO YOUR JOB". She didn't do her job, so she was placed in jail, exactly as the court order said. If you don't like that, you can get the hell out of MY country. It has laws.

The laws changed recently. She was there prior to the laws... At least fire her. You can't claim it's "your country" until you abide to the bill of rights, communist.

[Vaikneland]

Ugh this annoys me so much. You can't throw someone in jail to practice their religion. Read the Bill if Rights please. If you have an issue with it, GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY. No one wants you here anyway.

You can throw someone in jail for disobeying the law.

Also, it's not your country.

I was actually born here, I didn't hop the border like most of americans

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

Ugh this annoys me so much. You can't throw someone in jail to practice their religion. Read the Bill if Rights please. If you have an issue with it, GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY. No one wants you here anyway.

Contempt of court, not behalf of beliefs.

[Vaikneland]

Ugh this annoys me so much. You can't throw someone in jail to practice their religion. Read the Bill if Rights please. If you have an issue with it, GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY. No one wants you here anyway.

You can however throw someone in jail for contempt of court.

Yes, but it was based off of religious preferences. Not choice.

[Neutraligon]

She's in jail because she broke a court order that basically read "DO YOUR JOB". She didn't do her job, so she was placed in jail, exactly as the court order said. If you don't like that, you can get the hell out of MY country. It has laws.

The laws changed recently. She was there prior to the laws... At least fire her. You can't claim it's "your country" until you abide to the bill of rights, communist.

She can't be fired she is elected. She refuses to resign, and refuses to obey the law of the land. The first amendment which prevents the integration of church and state is partially why she is in the wrong. While she represents the government her right to practice her religion is limited. Oh and stop trying to flame.

You can however throw someone in jail for contempt of court.

Yes, but it was based off of religious preferences. Not choice.

Nope it was entirely based on her refusing to obey a legal court order.

[Highfort]

You can throw someone in jail for disobeying the law.

Also, it's not your country.

I was actually born here, I didn't hop the border like most of americans

I was born here and I think this sorry excuse for a clerk ought to rot in jail until she figures out that doing her job is not religious oppression. If anything her refusal to marry these gay couples is an example of her forcing her religion on others.

Perhaps you should read the Bill of Rights before you go flapping your gums.

[San Llera]

She's in jail because she broke a court order that basically read "DO YOUR JOB". She didn't do her job, so she was placed in jail, exactly as the court order said. If you don't like that, you can get the hell out of MY country. It has laws.

The laws changed recently. She was there prior to the laws... At least fire her. You can't claim it's "your country" until you abide to the bill of rights, communist.

Her city as an elected official included obeying any new laws. If she refused to obey the new law, she should have resigned.

[Dyakovo]

Holy crap, did you just bring up a creation myth to justify denying same sex marriage?

No: it's not a creation mythy.

Yes, it is.

[Vaikneland]

Ugh this annoys me so much. You can't throw someone in jail to practice their religion. Read the Bill if Rights please. If you have an issue with it, GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY. No one wants you here anyway.

She wasn't thrown in jail because of her religion. She was thrown in jail because she refused to do her job as an elected official and tried to deny rights granted to people, violating the 14th amendment.

Excuse me, but what exactly made her go against her job? Religion. She was following her religion. If she wasn't following her religion, would she have denied it? No

[Vaikneland]

The laws changed recently. She was there prior to the laws... At least fire her. You can't claim it's "your country" until you abide to the bill of rights, communist.

Her city as an elected official included obeying any new laws. If she refused to obey the new law, she should have resigned.

Yes, but they could've threatened her first

[Cannot think of a name]

You can throw someone in jail for disobeying the law.

Also, it's not your country.

I was actually born here, I didn't hop the border like most of americans

You're trying too hard.

[San Llera]

She wasn't thrown in jail because of her religion. She was thrown in jail because she refused to do her job as an elected official and tried to deny rights granted to people, violating the 14th amendment.

Excuse me, but what exactly made her go against her job? Religion. She was following her religion. If she wasn't following her religion, would she have denied it? No

That's still not why she was jailed.

Her city as an elected official included obeying any new laws. If she refused to obey the new law, she should have resigned.

Yes, but they could've threatened her first

They did not threaten her.

[Apollinis]

She's in jail because she broke a court order that basically read "DO YOUR JOB". She didn't do her job, so she was placed in jail, exactly as the court order said. If you don't like that, you can get the hell out of MY country. It has laws.

The laws changed recently. She was there prior to the laws... At least fire her. You can't claim it's "your country" until you abide to the bill of rights, communist.

I suppose the one benefit of people barging into NSG threads and being loudly, aggressively ignorant and incorrect is that there's at least some entertainment value can be drawn from it.

Ms. Davis' job is to, as far as I am aware and technicalities aside, authorise marriages. (I defer to others on the precise definition.) She is in a secular civil service. It is not her job to determine what the definition of marriage is or enforce a definition of marriage not in line with the law.

If she had any decency she'd either a) sign the licences or b) resign.

Would you be fine with a Muslim using a state office to enforce sharia law instead of the laws of the United States, or does your concern for "freedom of religion", as with so many of Ms. Davis' defenders, extend solely to allowing Christians to illegally discriminate?

[Cannot think of a name]

Her city as an elected official included obeying any new laws. If she refused to obey the new law, she should have resigned.

Yes, but they could've threatened her first

Maybe you should catch up with the rest of the class before raising your hand.

[Vaikneland]

I was actually born here, I didn't hop the border like most of americans

I was born here and I think this sorry excuse for a clerk ought to rot in jail until she figures out that doing her job is not religious oppression. If anything her refusal to marry these gay couples is an example of her forcing her religion on others.

Perhaps you should read the Bill of Rights before you go flapping your gums.

Forcing her religion on others?! Are you rediculous? They're forcing people to accept gay people against their will, even if it goes against their religion! now THATS what I call forcing.

[Dyakovo]

Ugh this annoys me so much. You can't throw someone in jail to practice their religion. Read the Bill if Rights please. If you have an issue with it, GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY. No one wants you here anyway.

Kim Davis was not thrown in jail for practicing her religion, she was jailed for failing to obey a court order.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

She wasn't thrown in jail because of her religion. She was thrown in jail because she refused to do her job as an elected official and tried to deny rights granted to people, violating the 14th amendment.

Excuse me, but what exactly made her go against her job? Religion. She was following her religion. If she wasn't following her religion, would she have denied it? No

If it is a violation, where do Ms. Davis’s rights to freedom of worship begin and end?

[Vaikneland]

Yes, but they could've threatened her first

Maybe you should catch up with the rest of the class before raising your hand.

Maybe you should read your nations constitution as well before you raise your hand.