Kentucky County Clerk Denies Gay Marriage Licenses

[USS Monitor]

For the slow kids on the play ground...
Hard line rightwingers declare the SCOTUS SSM decision to be them making law which violates the constitution, these same hardliners support an elected official not obeying the constitution with regards to church and state...

Fuck.

Right-wingers don't believe in the 14th amendment cos it wasn't approved by the Confederate government. Everyone knows the winners write history and the losers write the laws.

[Othelos]

You expect those bigots to understand what that means?

I oppose same-sex marriage; I'd assume you feel that I'm a bigot. I understand what the statement means; it's also incorrect: SCOTUS declared all laws against same-sex marriage to be unconstitutional.

Imagine the tables were flipped, homosexuality was the norm and many people felt that heterosexual marriage should be outlawed. It's fundamentally unfair to treat people that way.

I am very confused as to why people are still opposed to same sex marriage.

[USS Monitor]

Huckabee said something really stupid in his defense of Davis. http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/09/11/mike_huckabee_dred_scott_black_people_aren_t_fully_human_under_law_he_erroneously.html

“Michael, the Dred Scott decision of 1857 still remains to this day the law of the land, which says that black people aren’t fully human,” Huckabee told radio show host Michael Medved. “Does anybody still follow the Dred Scott Supreme Court decision?”

You know what I just said about right-wingers not believing in the 14th amendment? This right here is a perfect example.

[Rusozak]

So, can you explain WHY being against same sex marriage does not make you a bigot?

If you claim that I am a bigot, it is your responsibility to prove your claims.

Well, a bigot is by definition someone who is intolerantly devoted to their own beliefs. You want to ban something you don't like for no rational reason, refusing to tolerate the existence of something you don't like. There.

[Tekania]

Huckabee said something really stupid in his defense of Davis. http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/09/11/mike_huckabee_dred_scott_black_people_aren_t_fully_human_under_law_he_erroneously.html

“Michael, the Dred Scott decision of 1857 still remains to this day the law of the land, which says that black people aren’t fully human,” Huckabee told radio show host Michael Medved. “Does anybody still follow the Dred Scott Supreme Court decision?”

One would think that the Mike Huckabee supposed constitutional expertise would have him realize that pre 13th and 14th amendment, slaves were constitutionally less than a person, and it's in fact the same constitutional provision that brought them full person-hood by modification of supreme law that brought an end to miscegenation laws and is now is being principally applied to Same Sex partners seeking marriage.

[The Alma Mater]

You expect those bigots to understand what that means?

I oppose same-sex marriage; I'd assume you feel that I'm a bigot.

Well, it is certainly possible that you are, yes.
But perhaps you have a decent, non-bigoted reason to be against homosexuals being allowed to have the same fiscal and legal benefits as straight people.

[Grenartia]

I oppose same-sex marriage; I'd assume you feel that I'm a bigot.

Well, it is certainly possible that you are, yes.
But perhaps you have a decent, non-bigoted reason to be against homosexuals being allowed to have the same fiscal and legal benefits as straight people.

By the same token, perhaps I'm an advanced AI from the year 10000 CE.

[USS Monitor]

Well, it is certainly possible that you are, yes.
But perhaps you have a decent, non-bigoted reason to be against homosexuals being allowed to have the same fiscal and legal benefits as straight people.

By the same token, perhaps I'm an advanced AI from the year 10000 CE.

Perhaps I'm really the USS Monitor.

[Cannot think of a name]

For the slow kids on the play ground...
Hard line rightwingers declare the SCOTUS SSM decision to be them making law which violates the constitution, these same hardliners support an elected official not obeying the constitution with regards to church and state...

Fuck.

Right-wingers don't believe in the 14th amendment cos it wasn't approved by the Confederate government. Everyone knows the winners write history and the losers write the laws.

The irony being of course that the Republicans are the ones who ratified it in the first place.

[USS Monitor]

Right-wingers don't believe in the 14th amendment cos it wasn't approved by the Confederate government. Everyone knows the winners write history and the losers write the laws.

The irony being of course that the Republicans are the ones who ratified it in the first place.

But those were damn Yankee Republicans!

[Deuxtete]

I oppose same-sex marriage; I'd assume you feel that I'm a bigot. I understand what the statement means; it's also incorrect: SCOTUS declared all laws against same-sex marriage to be unconstitutional.

Imagine the tables were flipped, homosexuality was the norm and many people felt that heterosexual marriage should be outlawed. It's fundamentally unfair to treat people that way.

I am very confused as to why people are still opposed to same sex marriage.

Persecution of the "other".
We all are guilty of it to one degree or another. But when its as vocal as certain things we notice it more. I should say we all are guilty of having "others" to one degree or another, persecution was perhaps too strong an indictment.

[Val Halla]

What are the odds she'll make more money when she is inevitability impeached? If only it could be taken from her and donated to LGBT charities

[Cannabis Islands]

What are the odds she'll make more money when she is inevitability impeached? If only it could be taken from her and donated to LGBT charities

Not a chance in hell. The local legislator(think devolved parliament) supports her.

[Val Halla]

What are the odds she'll make more money when she is inevitability impeached? If only it could be taken from her and donated to LGBT charities

Not a chance in hell. The local legislator(think devolved parliament) supports her.

Hence my "if only". There's a lot of " if only"s

[Cannabis Islands]

Not a chance in hell. The local legislator(think devolved parliament) supports her.

Hence my "if only". There's a lot of " if only"s

But it is not going to happen. She is most likely going to get her "accommodation".

[Val Halla]

Hence my "if only". There's a lot of " if only"s

But it is not going to happen. She is most likely going to get her "accommodation".

Hypocrisy is fun like that

[Cannabis Islands]

But it is not going to happen. She is most likely going to get her "accommodation".

Hypocrisy is fun like that

Well, I don't look at this issue from a social justice prescriptive, the only thing that I argue that she is a governmental worker that refuses to do her job.

[Val Halla]

Hypocrisy is fun like that

Well, I don't look at this issue from a social justice prescriptive, the only thing that I argue that she is a governmental worker that refuses to do her job.

If she refused on the grounds of being a religion other than Christianity, she would not be supported.

[Cannabis Islands]

Well, I don't look at this issue from a social justice prescriptive, the only thing that I argue that she is a governmental worker that refuses to do her job.

If she refused on the grounds of being a religion other than Christianity, she would not be supported.

Hmm, I don't think so. Some on the left would defend her if she was a Muslim, because they are seen as an "oppressed minority group"

[Val Halla]

If she refused on the grounds of being a religion other than Christianity, she would not be supported.

Hmm, I don't think so. Some on the left would defend her if she was a Muslim, because they are seen as an "oppressed minority group"

...

What? That's a stupid suggestion.

[Dyakovo]

Huckabee said something really stupid in his defense of Davis. http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/09/11/mike_huckabee_dred_scott_black_people_aren_t_fully_human_under_law_he_erroneously.html

I'm shocked.


...well, not that shocked.

I'm shocked that he'd heard of the Dred Scott decision... This is ameliorated by his not realizing that it was overturned by the Fourteenth amendment.

[Clydonia]

Kim Davis should just get with the times.

[Saiwania]

This can all be resolved very easily. Kim Davis could just be fired for being incapable of doing her job satisfactorily and I'm sure there are some evangelical employers out there with a job waiting for her, since she got media attention. If some people went out of their way to get Chik-Fil-A sandwiches for being anti-gay, they'll find something for Kim to do like give speeches at social conservatism events. Kim Davis could be the new Palin.

[Rusozak]

This can all be resolved very easily. Kim Davis could just be fired for being incapable of doing her job satisfactorily and I'm sure there are some evangelical employers out there with a job waiting for her, since she got media attention. If some people went out of their way to get Chik-Fil-A sandwiches for being anti-gay, they'll find something for Kim to do like give speeches at social conservatism events. Kim Davis could be the new Palin.

It's already been established that, as an elected official, she can't simply be fired. I do believe though some far right employers are ready to take her in open arms if/when her tenure as county clerk ends.

[Gauthier]

If she refused on the grounds of being a religion other than Christianity, she would not be supported.

Hmm, I don't think so. Some on the left would defend her if she was a Muslim, because they are seen as an "oppressed minority group"

Muslim flight attendant suspended for refusing to serve alcohol files federal complaint

Sooo... where is this supposed horde of left-wing SJWs screaming that she's a victim?