What's wrong with saying I'm American?

[Internationalist Bastard]

Actually, California is in its' own category. Nobody really knows what to make of California and its' weirdness. At least New York is somewhat sane.

The only insane part of the state is that we still refuse to try and set up desalination plants in LA and the Bay Area.

Because who needs water, amiright?

[The Serbian Empire]

At this point... the US needs a name change to fix this problem.

Hardly, its' our nation and we're free to call ourselves whatever we want. It's not inherently offensive, and Latino disdain for it lies in their opposition to what they believe is "US Imperialism."

As long as we have an endless flood from Latin America trying to change the demonym to United Statesians, we're going to need to repackage the US just like Blackwater turned into XE.

[Ekirg]

Nothing. Nothing at all.

[Reatra]

The only insane part of the state is that we still refuse to try and set up desalination plants in LA and the Bay Area.

Because who needs water, amiright?

Not our crops!

[Imperial Esplanade]

Hardly, its' our nation and we're free to call ourselves whatever we want. It's not inherently offensive, and Latino disdain for it lies in their opposition to what they believe is "US Imperialism."

As long as we have an endless flood from Latin America trying to change the demonym to United Statesians, we're going to need to repackage the US just like Blackwater turned into XE.

Or, they can suck it up and deal with the fact that literally the rest of the world calls us "Americans."

[Salus Maior]

if these other nations are so butthurt about us being called americans, why don't they change their national names to america like us?

Because your name ain't "America" maybe?

Pretty much every official and citizen here would disagree. Not to mention the Pledge of Allegiance.

[Wurtemburg-Baden]

There is nothing wrong saying your a American.its like saying I'm Kathy or I'm Belgian

Someone hasn't seen the third Austin Powers movie.

Your Right a haven't.Don't Spoil it.

[Rio Cana]

I think I made a thread along these lines a while back. The general consensus I got was that Columbia was already claimed, "New-Britain" kinda ruined the point of seceding, and the only people who get mad about it are a few angry South American nationalists.

Colombia and Columbia are pronounced the same in English but different in Spanish.

Colombia (Co-lom-bia) while Columbia would be (Co-lou-mbia). "Lou" would sound like the name.

There is a famous song which tends to leave people with much feeling from the early 70's called "Amêrica, Amêrica". Its about the "Americas". Some people who hear that song end up with feeling proud of being from there own particular nation and proud of being an "American" from the Americas.

Found the song with English subtitles -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpPaVSYp0R0

Read spoiler for more on the singer who was from the Valencia region in Spain.

The following is the famous Spanish singer Nino Bravo who originally sang the song. He was very popular in many Spanish speaking nations including the US Spanish speaking community. There is no film of him singing the song . The story goes that the song put on the long play record was from a practice run he did of the song. The official recording of the song could not be done because either that day or a few days later the singer was involved in a bad auto crash which he did not survive. So since he did not survive the crash they had to use the practice song which is considered flawless. [/quote]

Should point out that he had another song which some say was kind of a premonition of what was going to happen to him.

Video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sUvASlQiAM

Info. on him from Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nino_Bravo

[Imperial Esplanade]

The only insane part of the state is that we still refuse to try and set up desalination plants in LA and the Bay Area.

there's more insanity than just that, but it's one thing.

First step along the road to acceptance of the truth.

[Salus Maior]

As long as we have an endless flood from Latin America trying to change the demonym to United Statesians, we're going to need to repackage the US just like Blackwater turned into XE.

Except even Mexicans refer to us as Americans.

[Deuxtete]

As long as we have an endless flood from Latin America trying to change the demonym to United Statesians, we're going to need to repackage the US just like Blackwater turned into XE.

Except even Mexicans refer to us as Americans.

Yeah, Latin Americans aren't seeking for Americans to call themselves United Statesians.
I guess though, for people who only interact with others on the internet, real life can be scary and confusing.

[Toubourlouki]

Except even Mexicans refer to us as Americans.

Yeah, Latin Americans aren't seeking for Americans to call themselves United Statesians.
I guess though, for people who only interact with others on the internet, real life can be scary and confusing.

Well besides don't forget that the real Americans were the Indians.

[Aelex]

Pretty much every official and citizen here would disagree. Not to mention the Pledge of Allegiance.

Technically you're full name is United States of America but since it's easier to say America I will just say whatever and let it flow.

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

Yeah, Latin Americans aren't seeking for Americans to call themselves United Statesians.
I guess though, for people who only interact with others on the internet, real life can be scary and confusing.

Well besides don't forget that the real Americans were the Indians.

Then what does that make the people in India?

[Herrebrugh]

The fact that you're really New Netherlanders.

[Deuxtete]

Yeah, Latin Americans aren't seeking for Americans to call themselves United Statesians.
I guess though, for people who only interact with others on the internet, real life can be scary and confusing.

Well besides don't forget that the real Americans were the Indians.

...first, they aren't fucking Indians.
Next, no they weren't Americans, they were the First Nations, they had their own names, languages, cultures, being American was foisted upon them.

[Dooom35796821595]

Well besides don't forget that the real Americans were the Indians.

Then what does that make the people in India?

The crown jewel of the empire?

[Imperial Esplanade]

Well besides don't forget that the real Americans were the Indians.

Then what does that make the people in India?

Telemarketers.

[Big Jim P]

Well besides don't forget that the real Americans were the Indians.

...first, they aren't fucking Indians.
Next, no they weren't Americans, they were the First Nations, they had their own names, languages, cultures, being American was foisted upon them.

They were conquered. It happens.

[Ashkera]

There's nothing inherently wrong with claiming to be "American" in reference to being a citizen of the United States, I'd just suggest being cautious in throwing that around Latinos since they are really the only people who really could take offense to that claim. All a matter of cultural linguistics really, especially since they are taught from an early age that we're not "Americans" but "United Statsians." Literally everyone else refers to us as just simply "the Americans."

At this point... the US needs a name change to fix this problem.

Careful. It'll end up being called the American States of America. ...for Americans!

[Immoren]

The fact that you're really New Netherlanders.

I thought you wrote "new Neanderthals" at first.


being cautious in throwing that around Latinos since they are really the only people who really could take offense to that claim. All a matter of cultural linguistics really, especially since they are taught from an early age that we're not "Americans" but "United Statsians." Literally everyone else refers to us as just simply "the Americans."[/quote]
At this point... the US needs a name change to fix this problem.[/quote]

Let's call it "United Federation of States"

[Toubourlouki]

Well besides don't forget that the real Americans were the Indians.

Then what does that make the people in India?

Indians? Obviously?

Well besides don't forget that the real Americans were the Indians.

...first, they aren't fucking Indians.
Next, no they weren't Americans, they were the First Nations, they had their own names, languages, cultures, being American was foisted upon them.

Calm down dude. I know they weren't Americans when the real ones were the Indians. That's what I'm telling you.

[The Rebel Alliances]

Yeah, sure, whatever

Not to side with the guys being all "AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!" in this thread, but...

Not just two world wars, but also colonial / imperial behaviors, diplomacy, the cold war...

If you cut America from your history, it ends in the late 1700s. Their intervention in Latin America, Asia... friggin' Adolf Hitler no longer counts as "history" by that metric.

That seems like a very deliberately incomplete history to me.

Not to mention the American government is still in power. If we're being this way, then we might as well say a country's history resets when the government is overthrown, in which case, a lot of other countries are younger...

Not to mention, the US has the oldest standing government on the planet. Since the 1780s I believe to present day. All other older nations have had revolutions, civil wars, coups ect and their Government institutions are typically younger. That is a accomplishment.

If there is a older standing government someone let me know.

[Immoren]

Not to mention, the US has the oldest standing government on the planet. Since the 1780s I believe to present day. All other older nations have had revolutions, civil wars, coups ect and their Government institutions are typically younger. That is a accomplishment.

If there is a older standing government someone let me know.

At least our government can afford chairs.

[The Rebel Alliances]

Not to mention, the US has the oldest standing government on the planet. Since the 1780s I believe to present day. All other older nations have had revolutions, civil wars, coups ect and their Government institutions are typically younger. That is a accomplishment.

If there is a older standing government someone let me know.

At least our government can afford chairs.

Hey, our IOU's are gold plated.