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[Big Jim P]

The gun worship picked up in this thread like with any thread on a shooting as expected.

Maybe someone ought to make an Iron Throne with guns instead of swords.

Gun-worship? responding negatively to someone advocating banning guns is worship now?

[Gauthier]

The gun worship picked up in this thread like with any thread on a shooting as expected.

Maybe someone ought to make an Iron Throne with guns instead of swords.

Gun-worship? responding negatively to someone advocating banning guns is worship now?

How is it not worship to uphold the sacredness of holding guns over keeping the mentally unstable from being able to get them legally?

[Jamzmania]

Gun-worship? responding negatively to someone advocating banning guns is worship now?

How is it not worship to uphold the sacredness of holding guns over keeping the mentally unstable from being able to get them legally?

No one thinks that the dangerously mentally unstable should be allowed free access to guns.

[Big Jim P]

How is it not worship to uphold the sacredness of holding guns over keeping the mentally unstable from being able to get them legally?

No one thinks that the dangerously mentally unstable should be allowed free access to guns.

That is a favorite strawman of GCAs.

[Gauthier]

No one thinks that the dangerously mentally unstable should be allowed free access to guns.

That is a favorite strawman of GCAs.

It's not a strawman when mentally unstable people *do* purchase guns legally that they later end up using to shoot other people.

[Big Jim P]

That is a favorite strawman of GCAs.

It's not a strawman when mentally unstable people *do* purchase guns legally that they later end up use to shoot other people.

That happens rarely to the point of insignificance. The media hypes this bullshit (all the while ignoring or burying cases of legitimate gun use) and people eat it up.

[Jamzmania]

That is a favorite strawman of GCAs.

It's not a strawman when mentally unstable people *do* purchase guns legally that they later end up use to shoot other people.

Because when they purchased it, they probably were not diagnosed or there was some failure in the system.

[Big Jim P]

It's not a strawman when mentally unstable people *do* purchase guns legally that they later end up use to shoot other people.

Because when they purchased it, they probably were not diagnosed or there was some failure in the system.

Likely it had not been diagnosed, and even if it had been, there is no guarantee that it was reported.

[Gauthier]

It's not a strawman when mentally unstable people *do* purchase guns legally that they later end up use to shoot other people.

Because when they purchased it, they probably were not diagnosed or there was some failure in the system.

And instead of wanting to fix the failure in the system, the gun worshippers insist the only real protection is for other people to have guns so they can shoot the mentally unstable person first.

[Gauthier]

Because when they purchased it, they probably were not diagnosed or there was some failure in the system.

Likely it had not been diagnosed, and even if it had been, there is no guarantee that it was reported.

Yet instead of making sure they're diagnosed and reported, you don't want any of that fixed except by arming more people.

[North Calaveras]

Because when they purchased it, they probably were not diagnosed or there was some failure in the system.

Likely it had not been diagnosed, and even if it had been, there is no guarantee that it was reported.

don't give him to much attention Big Jim, this guy is the guy who will make you out to be a racist just for wanting a more secure border and anything to do with muslims is anti-islam.

I love these guys " Don't judge Islam in the name of a few madmen" but they will turn right around and say " Judge all gun owners on the acts of a few mad men"

[Big Jim P]

Likely it had not been diagnosed, and even if it had been, there is no guarantee that it was reported.

Yet instead of making sure they're diagnosed and reported, you don't want any of that fixed except by arming more people.

I and most pro-gunners are all for better mental health screening and reporting. See, it is not a gun problem, but a mental health problem.

[Big Jim P]

Because when they purchased it, they probably were not diagnosed or there was some failure in the system.

And instead of wanting to fix the failure in the system, the gun worshippers insist the only real protection is for other people to have guns so they can shoot the mentally unstable person first.

Shooting someone in self defense is a response to an immediate threat.

[Gauthier]

And instead of wanting to fix the failure in the system, the gun worshippers insist the only real protection is for other people to have guns so they can shoot the mentally unstable person first.

Shooting someone in self defense is a response to an immediate threat.

Because preventing the thread from ever happening in the first place is too much work. Much more convenient to just shoot the problem when it gets to that point and if someone unarmed gets killed, their damn fault obviously.

[Gauthier]

Likely it had not been diagnosed, and even if it had been, there is no guarantee that it was reported.

don't give him to much attention Big Jim, this guy is the guy who will make you out to be a racist just for wanting a more secure border and anything to do with muslims is anti-islam.

I love these guys " Don't judge Islam in the name of a few madmen" but they will turn right around and say " Judge all gun owners on the acts of a few mad men"

[Washington Resistance Army]

don't give him to much attention Big Jim, this guy is the guy who will make you out to be a racist just for wanting a more secure border and anything to do with muslims is anti-islam.

I love these guys " Don't judge Islam in the name of a few madmen" but they will turn right around and say " Judge all gun owners on the acts of a few mad men"

The irony in this post pleases me greatly.

[Big Jim P]

Shooting someone in self defense is a response to an immediate threat.

Because preventing the thread from ever happening in the first place is too much work. Much more convenient to just shoot the problem when it gets to that point and if someone unarmed gets killed, their damn fault obviously.

I think you missed something:

Yet instead of making sure they're diagnosed and reported, you don't want any of that fixed except by arming more people.

I and most pro-gunners are all for better mental health screening and reporting. See, it is not a gun problem, but a mental health problem.

[Big Jim P]

The irony in this post pleases me greatly.

Indeed.

[Gauthier]

The irony in this post pleases me greatly.

So, where did I personally attack someone in this thread, hmm?

[Imperializt Russia]

It's not a strawman when mentally unstable people *do* purchase guns legally that they later end up use to shoot other people.

Because when they purchased it, they probably were not diagnosed or there was some failure in the system.

Be fair, when this happens in literally any other circumstance, most people clamour for action.

[Imperializt Russia]

Likely it had not been diagnosed, and even if it had been, there is no guarantee that it was reported.

don't give him to much attention Big Jim, this guy is the guy who will make you out to be a racist just for wanting a more secure border and anything to do with muslims is anti-islam.

I love these guys " Don't judge Islam in the name of a few madmen" but they will turn right around and say " Judge all gun owners on the acts of a few mad men"

That... didn't happen?

[North Calaveras]

don't give him to much attention Big Jim, this guy is the guy who will make you out to be a racist just for wanting a more secure border and anything to do with muslims is anti-islam.

I love these guys " Don't judge Islam in the name of a few madmen" but they will turn right around and say " Judge all gun owners on the acts of a few mad men"

That... didn't happen?

he will attend islamic based discussions and bitch and say that muslims shouldn't be judged because of a few madmen but he will bring hypocrisy here and ask for more regulation on firearms.

[Big Jim P]

don't give him to much attention Big Jim, this guy is the guy who will make you out to be a racist just for wanting a more secure border and anything to do with muslims is anti-islam.

I love these guys " Don't judge Islam in the name of a few madmen" but they will turn right around and say " Judge all gun owners on the acts of a few mad men"

That... didn't happen?

Can't say about the former, but the latter is common.

Edit: Not about the poster in question specifically, but about the liberal/gun-grabber crowd in general.

[Gauthier]

That... didn't happen?

he will attend islamic based discussions and bitch and say that muslims shouldn't be judged because of a few madmen but he will bring hypocrisy here and ask for more regulation on firearms.

Because "Make sure background checks are actually being carried out and updated" is the exact same thing as "Take everyone's guns away."

[North Calaveras]

he will attend islamic based discussions and bitch and say that muslims shouldn't be judged because of a few madmen but he will bring hypocrisy here and ask for more regulation on firearms.

Because "Make sure background checks are actually being carried out and updated" is the exact same thing as "Take everyone's guns away."

I have a ridiculously hard time believing that you are just for background checks.