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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:30 am

Gauthier wrote:The gun worship picked up in this thread like with any thread on a shooting as expected.

Maybe someone ought to make an Iron Throne with guns instead of swords.


Gun-worship? responding negatively to someone advocating banning guns is worship now?
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:31 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Gauthier wrote:The gun worship picked up in this thread like with any thread on a shooting as expected.

Maybe someone ought to make an Iron Throne with guns instead of swords.


Gun-worship? responding negatively to someone advocating banning guns is worship now?


How is it not worship to uphold the sacredness of holding guns over keeping the mentally unstable from being able to get them legally?
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Postby Jamzmania » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:33 am

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Big Jim P wrote:
Gun-worship? responding negatively to someone advocating banning guns is worship now?


How is it not worship to uphold the sacredness of holding guns over keeping the mentally unstable from being able to get them legally?

No one thinks that the dangerously mentally unstable should be allowed free access to guns.
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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:35 am

Jamzmania wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
How is it not worship to uphold the sacredness of holding guns over keeping the mentally unstable from being able to get them legally?

No one thinks that the dangerously mentally unstable should be allowed free access to guns.


That is a favorite strawman of GCAs. ;)
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:37 am

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Jamzmania wrote:No one thinks that the dangerously mentally unstable should be allowed free access to guns.


That is a favorite strawman of GCAs. ;)


It's not a strawman when mentally unstable people *do* purchase guns legally that they later end up using to shoot other people.
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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:39 am

Gauthier wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
That is a favorite strawman of GCAs. ;)


It's not a strawman when mentally unstable people *do* purchase guns legally that they later end up use to shoot other people.


That happens rarely to the point of insignificance. The media hypes this bullshit (all the while ignoring or burying cases of legitimate gun use) and people eat it up.
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Postby Jamzmania » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:39 am

Gauthier wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
That is a favorite strawman of GCAs. ;)


It's not a strawman when mentally unstable people *do* purchase guns legally that they later end up use to shoot other people.

Because when they purchased it, they probably were not diagnosed or there was some failure in the system.
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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:41 am

Jamzmania wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
It's not a strawman when mentally unstable people *do* purchase guns legally that they later end up use to shoot other people.

Because when they purchased it, they probably were not diagnosed or there was some failure in the system.


Likely it had not been diagnosed, and even if it had been, there is no guarantee that it was reported.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:42 am

Jamzmania wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
It's not a strawman when mentally unstable people *do* purchase guns legally that they later end up use to shoot other people.

Because when they purchased it, they probably were not diagnosed or there was some failure in the system.


And instead of wanting to fix the failure in the system, the gun worshippers insist the only real protection is for other people to have guns so they can shoot the mentally unstable person first.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:42 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Jamzmania wrote:Because when they purchased it, they probably were not diagnosed or there was some failure in the system.


Likely it had not been diagnosed, and even if it had been, there is no guarantee that it was reported.


Yet instead of making sure they're diagnosed and reported, you don't want any of that fixed except by arming more people.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
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Postby North Calaveras » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:43 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Jamzmania wrote:Because when they purchased it, they probably were not diagnosed or there was some failure in the system.


Likely it had not been diagnosed, and even if it had been, there is no guarantee that it was reported.


don't give him to much attention Big Jim, this guy is the guy who will make you out to be a racist just for wanting a more secure border and anything to do with muslims is anti-islam.

I love these guys " Don't judge Islam in the name of a few madmen" but they will turn right around and say " Judge all gun owners on the acts of a few mad men"
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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:45 am

Gauthier wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Likely it had not been diagnosed, and even if it had been, there is no guarantee that it was reported.


Yet instead of making sure they're diagnosed and reported, you don't want any of that fixed except by arming more people.


I and most pro-gunners are all for better mental health screening and reporting. See, it is not a gun problem, but a mental health problem. :roll:
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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:46 am

Gauthier wrote:
Jamzmania wrote:Because when they purchased it, they probably were not diagnosed or there was some failure in the system.


And instead of wanting to fix the failure in the system, the gun worshippers insist the only real protection is for other people to have guns so they can shoot the mentally unstable person first.


Shooting someone in self defense is a response to an immediate threat. :roll:
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:01 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
And instead of wanting to fix the failure in the system, the gun worshippers insist the only real protection is for other people to have guns so they can shoot the mentally unstable person first.


Shooting someone in self defense is a response to an immediate threat. :roll:


Because preventing the thread from ever happening in the first place is too much work. Much more convenient to just shoot the problem when it gets to that point and if someone unarmed gets killed, their damn fault obviously. :roll:
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:02 am

North Calaveras wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Likely it had not been diagnosed, and even if it had been, there is no guarantee that it was reported.


don't give him to much attention Big Jim, this guy is the guy who will make you out to be a racist just for wanting a more secure border and anything to do with muslims is anti-islam.

I love these guys " Don't judge Islam in the name of a few madmen" but they will turn right around and say " Judge all gun owners on the acts of a few mad men"


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The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:03 am

Gauthier wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
don't give him to much attention Big Jim, this guy is the guy who will make you out to be a racist just for wanting a more secure border and anything to do with muslims is anti-islam.

I love these guys " Don't judge Islam in the name of a few madmen" but they will turn right around and say " Judge all gun owners on the acts of a few mad men"


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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:03 am

Gauthier wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Shooting someone in self defense is a response to an immediate threat. :roll:


Because preventing the thread from ever happening in the first place is too much work. Much more convenient to just shoot the problem when it gets to that point and if someone unarmed gets killed, their damn fault obviously. :roll:


I think you missed something:

Big Jim P wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Yet instead of making sure they're diagnosed and reported, you don't want any of that fixed except by arming more people.


I and most pro-gunners are all for better mental health screening and reporting. See, it is not a gun problem, but a mental health problem. :roll:
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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:03 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
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The irony in this post pleases me greatly.


Indeed. :lol2:
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:04 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
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The irony in this post pleases me greatly.


So, where did I personally attack someone in this thread, hmm?
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:05 am

Jamzmania wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
It's not a strawman when mentally unstable people *do* purchase guns legally that they later end up use to shoot other people.

Because when they purchased it, they probably were not diagnosed or there was some failure in the system.

Be fair, when this happens in literally any other circumstance, most people clamour for action.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:06 am

North Calaveras wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Likely it had not been diagnosed, and even if it had been, there is no guarantee that it was reported.


don't give him to much attention Big Jim, this guy is the guy who will make you out to be a racist just for wanting a more secure border and anything to do with muslims is anti-islam.

I love these guys " Don't judge Islam in the name of a few madmen" but they will turn right around and say " Judge all gun owners on the acts of a few mad men"

That... didn't happen?
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Postby North Calaveras » Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:07 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
don't give him to much attention Big Jim, this guy is the guy who will make you out to be a racist just for wanting a more secure border and anything to do with muslims is anti-islam.

I love these guys " Don't judge Islam in the name of a few madmen" but they will turn right around and say " Judge all gun owners on the acts of a few mad men"

That... didn't happen?


he will attend islamic based discussions and bitch and say that muslims shouldn't be judged because of a few madmen but he will bring hypocrisy here and ask for more regulation on firearms.
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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:08 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
don't give him to much attention Big Jim, this guy is the guy who will make you out to be a racist just for wanting a more secure border and anything to do with muslims is anti-islam.

I love these guys " Don't judge Islam in the name of a few madmen" but they will turn right around and say " Judge all gun owners on the acts of a few mad men"

That... didn't happen?


Can't say about the former, but the latter is common.

Edit: Not about the poster in question specifically, but about the liberal/gun-grabber crowd in general.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:09 am

North Calaveras wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:That... didn't happen?


he will attend islamic based discussions and bitch and say that muslims shouldn't be judged because of a few madmen but he will bring hypocrisy here and ask for more regulation on firearms.


Because "Make sure background checks are actually being carried out and updated" is the exact same thing as "Take everyone's guns away."
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Postby North Calaveras » Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:09 am

Gauthier wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
he will attend islamic based discussions and bitch and say that muslims shouldn't be judged because of a few madmen but he will bring hypocrisy here and ask for more regulation on firearms.


Because "Make sure background checks are actually being carried out and updated" is the exact same thing as "Take everyone's guns away."


I have a ridiculously hard time believing that you are just for background checks.
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