by Imsogone » Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:28 pm
by Arumdaum » Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:31 pm
by Maurepas » Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:33 pm
by Lord Tothe » Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:35 pm
"Why is self-control, autonomy, such a threat to authority? Because the person who controls himself, who is his own master, has no need for an authority to be his master. This, then, renders authority unemployed. What is he to do if he cannot control others? To be sure, he could mind his own business. But that is a fatuous answer, for those who are satisfied to mind their own business do not aspire to become authorities." ~ Thomas SzaszThe Empire of Pretantia wrote:[...] TLDR; welcome to the internet. Bicker or GTFO.
by Maurepas » Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:36 pm
Arumdaum wrote:Where I live is 4.0% to 4.9%.
by Greed and Death » Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:38 pm
by Arumdaum » Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:38 pm
Maurepas wrote:Arumdaum wrote:Where I live is 4.0% to 4.9%.
Yeah, I found the scale, my browser was cutting it off...My counties actually improved from 5-6% to 4% at the start of the recession, but, within the last year it plummeted to over 9%....
Course, outside the Coast, Mississippi's always been broke, we just recently decided to join it, >_>
by Arumdaum » Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:39 pm
Maurepas wrote:Arumdaum wrote:Where I live is 4.0% to 4.9%.
Yeah, I found the scale, my browser was cutting it off...My counties actually improved from 5-6% to 4% at the start of the recession, but, within the last year it plummeted to over 9%....
Course, outside the Coast, Mississippi's always been broke, we just recently decided to join it, >_>
by Jubu Jubu Jabu » Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:41 pm
Maurepas wrote:I was at first asking what the colors represent...but, after watching it, I assume the Purple and Green mean worse...
Its kind of scary to watch the Purples and green slowly take over more and more, and get darker, and spread from both the West, and East Coast towards the middle,
But, it doesnt surprise me, Unemployment will rise until you start hiring Americans again, simple as that, if you're hiring in China, Southeast Asia, and Mexico, then you're losing jobs here...
Jubu Jubu Jabu wrote:
NationStates 2: DEFCON 'WE'RE SCREWED'! Sequel to the amazingly popular NationStates. Prepare to fire your 'I.G.N.O.R.E.' cannons as this docu-drama explores the ins and outs of Roleplaying warfare. It's Lefties vs. Righties as the gloves have finally come off, exposing your little nerd fingers to the brutality of a keyboard, and wasting your puny brain away on topics like, How do you make being hit in the balls hurt less?!
by Greed and Death » Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:44 pm
Jubu Jubu Jabu wrote:Maurepas wrote:I was at first asking what the colors represent...but, after watching it, I assume the Purple and Green mean worse...
Its kind of scary to watch the Purples and green slowly take over more and more, and get darker, and spread from both the West, and East Coast towards the middle,
But, it doesnt surprise me, Unemployment will rise until you start hiring Americans again, simple as that, if you're hiring in China, Southeast Asia, and Mexico, then you're losing jobs here...
Exactly, there need to be almost punitive tariffs on those that outsource. Plain and simple.
by Maurepas » Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:44 pm
Jubu Jubu Jabu wrote:Maurepas wrote:I was at first asking what the colors represent...but, after watching it, I assume the Purple and Green mean worse...
Its kind of scary to watch the Purples and green slowly take over more and more, and get darker, and spread from both the West, and East Coast towards the middle,
But, it doesnt surprise me, Unemployment will rise until you start hiring Americans again, simple as that, if you're hiring in China, Southeast Asia, and Mexico, then you're losing jobs here...
Exactly, there need to be almost punitive tariffs on those that outsource. Plain and simple.
by Urzamalandi » Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:45 pm
Brogavia wrote:Start wearing white robes and hand out fliers at college campuses talking about how you have discovered the true path happiness and all that junk.
by Jubu Jubu Jabu » Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:46 pm
Maurepas wrote:Jubu Jubu Jabu wrote:Maurepas wrote:I was at first asking what the colors represent...but, after watching it, I assume the Purple and Green mean worse...
Its kind of scary to watch the Purples and green slowly take over more and more, and get darker, and spread from both the West, and East Coast towards the middle,
But, it doesnt surprise me, Unemployment will rise until you start hiring Americans again, simple as that, if you're hiring in China, Southeast Asia, and Mexico, then you're losing jobs here...
Exactly, there need to be almost punitive tariffs on those that outsource. Plain and simple.
Well, idk about that, my thinking is more along the lines of extending subsidies to more agricultural products, and requiring that a company that wants to sell its goods in the United States have to hire X number of people...
They dont have a choice but to sell here, being the largest market and all, and even if they chose not to, it does us the favor of being able to domestically produce/sell them...
They did it with the car companies, and, although it hurt the big three, it prompted Honda, Toyota, Nissan, etc., to put factories in the United States...
So, its not a tariff on outsourcing I think, so much as requiring that the foreign companies that flood our markets with their goods also hire our people...
Jubu Jubu Jabu wrote:
NationStates 2: DEFCON 'WE'RE SCREWED'! Sequel to the amazingly popular NationStates. Prepare to fire your 'I.G.N.O.R.E.' cannons as this docu-drama explores the ins and outs of Roleplaying warfare. It's Lefties vs. Righties as the gloves have finally come off, exposing your little nerd fingers to the brutality of a keyboard, and wasting your puny brain away on topics like, How do you make being hit in the balls hurt less?!
by Maurepas » Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:47 pm
Urzamalandi wrote:In my humble opinion, the recession has been used as an excuse by a lot of companies and cooperations to trim down the workforce not for necessity but for streamlining. The companies where not going to go broke, but they might as well lay off 20% of the workforce endevour to be more efficient and bulk up the bonus and benefits packages for the executives (as publicly demonstrated in the banking sector).
Why have 5 people doing what 2 people can do under threat of further layoffs?
by Zeppy » Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:50 pm
Maurepas wrote:Well, idk about that, my thinking is more along the lines of extending subsidies to more agricultural products, and requiring that a company that wants to sell its goods in the United States have to hire X number of people...
They dont have a choice but to sell here, being the largest market and all, and even if they chose not to, it does us the favor of being able to domestically produce/sell them...
They did it with the car companies, and, although it hurt the big three, it prompted Honda, Toyota, Nissan, etc., to put factories in the United States...
So, its not a tariff on outsourcing I think, so much as requiring that the foreign companies that flood our markets with their goods also hire our people...
by Urzamalandi » Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:57 pm
Maurepas wrote:Urzamalandi wrote:In my humble opinion, the recession has been used as an excuse by a lot of companies and cooperations to trim down the workforce not for necessity but for streamlining. The companies where not going to go broke, but they might as well lay off 20% of the workforce endevour to be more efficient and bulk up the bonus and benefits packages for the executives (as publicly demonstrated in the banking sector).
Why have 5 people doing what 2 people can do under threat of further layoffs?
Almost, I would agree about the companies actions, but, really, what they want isnt to not have five people do what 2 could...
But to have 20 sweatshop workers have twice the output for a pittance in comparison in a foreign country...
Brogavia wrote:Start wearing white robes and hand out fliers at college campuses talking about how you have discovered the true path happiness and all that junk.
by Maurepas » Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:07 pm
Urzamalandi wrote:Maurepas wrote:Urzamalandi wrote:In my humble opinion, the recession has been used as an excuse by a lot of companies and cooperations to trim down the workforce not for necessity but for streamlining. The companies where not going to go broke, but they might as well lay off 20% of the workforce endevour to be more efficient and bulk up the bonus and benefits packages for the executives (as publicly demonstrated in the banking sector).
Why have 5 people doing what 2 people can do under threat of further layoffs?
Almost, I would agree about the companies actions, but, really, what they want isnt to not have five people do what 2 could...
But to have 20 sweatshop workers have twice the output for a pittance in comparison in a foreign country...
I'd say equally true but that's not the cause for the increase of unemployment over the last 2 years. Outsourcing has been the cause decreasing employment opportunities over the past years 15 or so.
by Euroslavia » Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:09 pm
by Maurepas » Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:10 pm
Euroslavia wrote:I've heard some figures about Detroit's unemployment rate reaching to the upwards of 30%. http://detnews.com/article/20091216/MET ... unemployed Count me as one of 'em. It's ridiculously difficult to find a job.
by Urzamalandi » Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:11 pm
Maurepas wrote:Euroslavia wrote:I've heard some figures about Detroit's unemployment rate reaching to the upwards of 30%. http://detnews.com/article/20091216/MET ... unemployed Count me as one of 'em. It's ridiculously difficult to find a job.
You're from Detroit? Im sorry, are the rumours of all the major food retailers pulling out true, or exaggerated? Is it the post-apocalyptic scene they display on the news?
Brogavia wrote:Start wearing white robes and hand out fliers at college campuses talking about how you have discovered the true path happiness and all that junk.
by Zeppy » Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:11 pm
Maurepas wrote:Euroslavia wrote:I've heard some figures about Detroit's unemployment rate reaching to the upwards of 30%. http://detnews.com/article/20091216/MET ... unemployed Count me as one of 'em. It's ridiculously difficult to find a job.
You're from Detroit? Im sorry, are the rumours of all the major food retailers pulling out true, or exaggerated? Is it the post-apocalyptic scene they display on the news?
by Euroslavia » Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:20 pm
Maurepas wrote:Euroslavia wrote:I've heard some figures about Detroit's unemployment rate reaching to the upwards of 30%. http://detnews.com/article/20091216/MET ... unemployed Count me as one of 'em. It's ridiculously difficult to find a job.
You're from Detroit? Im sorry, are the rumours of all the major food retailers pulling out true, or exaggerated? Is it the post-apocalyptic scene they display on the news?
Zeppy wrote:Total destruction can led to a total rebirth.
by Conserative Morality » Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:24 pm
Maurepas wrote:I was at first asking what the colors represent...but, after watching it, I assume the Purple and Green mean worse...
Its kind of scary to watch the Purples and green slowly take over more and more, and get darker, and spread from both the West, and East Coast towards the middle,
But, it doesnt surprise me, Unemployment will rise until you start hiring Americans again, simple as that, if you're hiring in China, Southeast Asia, and Mexico, then you're losing jobs here...
by Jubu Jubu Jabu » Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:25 pm
Euroslavia wrote:I've heard some figures about Detroit's unemployment rate reaching to the upwards of 30%. http://detnews.com/article/20091216/MET ... unemployed Count me as one of 'em. It's ridiculously difficult to find a job.
Jubu Jubu Jabu wrote:
NationStates 2: DEFCON 'WE'RE SCREWED'! Sequel to the amazingly popular NationStates. Prepare to fire your 'I.G.N.O.R.E.' cannons as this docu-drama explores the ins and outs of Roleplaying warfare. It's Lefties vs. Righties as the gloves have finally come off, exposing your little nerd fingers to the brutality of a keyboard, and wasting your puny brain away on topics like, How do you make being hit in the balls hurt less?!
by Zeppy » Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:29 pm
Euroslavia wrote:Zeppy wrote:Total destruction can led to a total rebirth.
The only problem with that is finding someone who is willing to re-create Detroit without being corrupt. Kwame Kilpatrick really screwed us over.
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