Astounding Immorality of Islam: Allah's "Rewards" in Heaven

[Imperializt Russia]

Except the 'God' of Arabia is Jehovah, just like the 'God' of the Jews, or of Christianity. The morality of all Abrahamic faiths are very similar.

Muslims claim that the God of Islam is the same God of Judaism and Christianity. That doesn't make it true.

That's actually a fairly widely-held belief outside of Islam.

A Christian church in Syria, what few are left, will call God Allah.
Because Allah is the Arabic word for God.

[Salus Maior]

And Christianity demands you take the wives and harems of those you conquer, for they are now your property.
Your point?

As I understand it, some scholars believe that the whole "72 virgins" thing might be a mistranslation anyway and refer to something else. What, I'm not sure. But I think they're a minority of scholars so that could mean anything.

Old Testament law doesn't apply to Christianity. The Apostle Paul saw to that.

[Gauthier]

Muslims claim that the God of Islam is the same God of Judaism and Christianity. That doesn't make it true.

That's actually a fairly widely-held belief outside of Islam.

The religious equivalent of "I Don't Know That Person".

[Padellian]

First off the inherent problem with the whole discussion is the fact that it's about the dogma and historical roots, scriptures, etc. What's important is the the actual behavior of the religious in reality. For the most part Christianity and Judaism have both gone through evolutions to where they can survive in the modern world somewhat successfully. Islam however, in my opinion anyways, has not evolved! It still has old beliefs that are no longer tolerable in the real world. Many moderate Christians condemn Christianity's crazies, but in the muslim world that is not as prevalent! Islam needs to evolve to become a more accepting religion, and a more peaceful one. That includes the people in the religion also.

[Atelia]

Why don't people stop talking about Christianity and actually discuss the topic at hand? You can make your own topic about the immorality of Christianity if you wish.

If a religion promises to give its male followers infidel women from hell as virtual sex slaves, can we conclude that this is an immoral religion?

Also, no one has answered by query as to what pious Muslim women get in the afterlife. Allah promises Muslim men eternal erections and some virgins with pleasant vaginas, but these obviously do not apply to Muslim women.

I suppose now is a good time to bring up the inherent subjectivity of morality yes?

[The Alma Mater]

Why don't people stop talking about Christianity and actually discuss the topic at hand? You can make your own topic about the immorality of Christianity if you wish.

If a religion promises to give its male followers infidel women from hell as virtual sex slaves, can we conclude that this is an immoral religion?

Also, no one has answered by query as to what pious Muslim women get in the afterlife. Allah promises Muslim men eternal erections and some virgins with pleasant vaginas, but these obviously do not apply to Muslim women.

I suppose now is a good time to bring up the inherent subjectivity of morality yes?

Well,we could ask women what they think ?

Then again, plenty of women choose to be muslim voluntarily. So many seem to think it fine.

[Mallorea and Riva]

Funny, the tone of the thread hasn't been "There's a problem with fundamentalism and radicalism in Islam and we need everyone to solve that problem." It's been more like "Islam is a violent, immoral religion and it needs to be done away with by any means."

What is wrong with wanting to eliminate Islam? Any rational human being with a decent moral compass should be strongly opposed to Islam. Those who support Islam are either ignorant or immoral.

You just had a nation nuked for exactly this offense, and this is how you decide to come back? Poor choice.

*** 1 Day Ban for continued trolling ***

[Deuxtete]

so glad to read this reply ^

Someone missed the joke. Stoned to Death in Colorado.

No fucking way, whoo kah! I can hardly believe that, peace, pipe dreams.
To be blunt, I knew I was just blowing smoke resisting the evil of Islam. Treat them with plush kid gloves leaving with broad cush room to play all high, and mighty.
It's a cancer, a weed, spreading and budding. It's needs to stopped, plucked out and broken up, you can't let any seeds of it slip through. We need to be fired up!
As an unrelated aside, is that big blaze in Colorado under control?

[Imperializt Russia]

And Christianity demands you take the wives and harems of those you conquer, for they are now your property.
Your point?

As I understand it, some scholars believe that the whole "72 virgins" thing might be a mistranslation anyway and refer to something else. What, I'm not sure. But I think they're a minority of scholars so that could mean anything.

Old Testament law doesn't apply to Christianity. The Apostle Paul saw to that.

It does.

[Islamic Republic e Jariri]

f4,5r

[Deuxtete]

Old Testament law doesn't apply to Christianity. The Apostle Paul saw to that.

It does.

No it doesn't. New contract.

[Islamic Meritocratic Transoxiana]

Even atheists admit that this is a lie:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM3_ltur0lo

[Deuxtete]

Even atheists admit that this is a lie:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM3_ltur0lo

Atheism in this instance isn't the provocateur, its just good old fashioned bigotry.

[Lordieth]

Why is Islamophobia so acceptable these days... its practically ingrained into the culture of NSG, so much so its not even considered offensive anymore.

More worrying is how normalised it's become. Very sad indeed.

[Genivaria]

Even atheists admit that this is a lie:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM3_ltur0lo

YouTube is not a source for fucking anything.

[Islamic Republic e Jariri]

bvm5,5t

[Deuxtete]

Even atheists admit that this is a lie:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM3_ltur0lo

YouTube is not a source for fucking anything.

It's a source for videos that is free access to all, these include academic lectures from some of the greatest minds in any and every given field.
Watch the video and see if its a credible source ... YouTube isn't the problem.

[Tmutarakhan]

I think the OP's point is that people still take everything literal in the Koran, while most Christians do not.

Literalism is a relatively new thing in both Christianity and Islam.

No. Islam has always been literalist. Even modernist Muslims who try to get away from the brutal medievalism pretend that the text of the Qur'an is misunderstood and must mean something else: they cannot say that parts of the Qur'an are just wrong.

[Gauthier]

Why is Islamophobia so acceptable these days... its practically ingrained into the culture of NSG, so much so its not even considered offensive anymore.

More worrying is how normalised it's become. Very sad indeed.

Just a matter of time before a European country actually sends Muslims to internment camps.

[Islamic Meritocratic Transoxiana]

Even atheists admit that this is a lie:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM3_ltur0lo

Atheism in this instance isn't the provocateur, its just good old fashioned bigotry.

I wasn't trying to say that. Some people just assume that anyone who isn't an Islamophobe is a Muslim

[Yaramaqui]

Oh my. Why the anger?

Even atheists admit that this is a lie:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM3_ltur0lo

YouTube is not a source for fucking anything.

I may be Jewish but, living in Israel and knowing many Muslims, I know there are well sourced Hadiths and other Hadiths which are not well-sourced. The Hadiths that are not as well sourced are more-so like unconfirmed gossip which are not taken as seriously as the Hadiths that are well sourced.

[Islamic Republic e Jariri]

cn84

[Gauthier]

Just a matter of time before a European country actually sends Muslims to internment camps.

What, like the Jewish Holocaust? Or how the Nazi regime enforced negative stereotypes of Jews for their anti-semitic propaganda? Could a similar cycle of hatred be starting this time with Muslims being targeted?

Holocaust? No. More like the United States internment of Japanese Americans right after Pearl Harbor.

[The Alma Mater]

Why is Islamophobia so acceptable these days...

Bad PR mostly. I do not know how it is where you live, but a quick grab from recent Dutch news:

"group of muslims robs an old man", "group of muslim youths kills a referee", "group of muslims rapes a 93 old woman and urinate in the ashes of her husband", "muslim with machinegun subdued in the Thalys", "muslims implement Sharia law in part of the Hague", 'muslims shot while trying to rob jewellery store", "70% of muslim youths have been in contact with the police", "50% of Dutch muslims does not oppose IS", "30% of muslims unemployed" , "50% of prisons filled with muslims" etc. etc. etc.

It is a neverending bombardment of "muslims are bad" - and it does not even matter anymore if the news is true or not. Everybody personally knows at least one person who has been robbed, raped, threatened etc, by muslims - or at least claims they were. Add to that some quotes like the OPs, some images from the "Islamic State" and your demon is there.

[The Black Forrest]

Why is Islamophobia so acceptable these days... *snip*

Simple:

Allahu Akbar! *boom*
Allahu Akbar! *opens fire*
Allahu Akbar! *starts stabbing*

And how can forget great example of jihadi john?

The speed and accessibility of communications is the problem. If all you see is JJ talking about cutting off heads or somebody trying to shoot up a train; guess what people start believing.

Quoting the Quran will avail you little as most people won't read it.