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Astounding Immorality of Islam: Allah's "Rewards" in Heaven

Postby Kotta Telangana » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:27 am

Ibn Warraq, a famous pro-secular, ex-Muslim author,once described the Islamic "heaven" (jannah) as a cosmic brothel full of women for the exclusive use of "pious" men. I thought he was exaggerating at first, but after being exposed to Islamic scriptures (the Quran and the hadiths), it seems that this is actually a fairly accurate portrayal of what the Islamic "God" offers its believers.


Allah's Apostle [Muhammad] said, "In Paradise there is a pavilion made of a single hollow pearl sixty miles wide, in each corner of which there are wives who will not see those in the other corners; and the believers will visit and enjoy them. And there are two gardens, the utensils and contents of which are made of silver; and two other gardens, the utensils and contents of which are made of so-and-so (i.e. gold) and nothing will prevent the people staying in the Garden of Eden from seeing their Lord except the curtain of Majesty over His Face."

Link: http://www.sahih-bukhari.com/Pages/Bukhari_6_60.php


Allah promises to give his devout believers the women with the "most desirable vaginas" as well as eternal erections for the "pious" men. He also says that all unbeliever women in hell will be available for sexual usage by "pious" Muslim men:

Abu ‘Umama reported that Allah’s Messenger (صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم) said: "There is no one whom Allah will admit to Paradise but Allah will marry him to seventy-two wives, two from houris and seventy from his inheritance from the people of Hell, all of whom will have desirable front passages (vaginas) and he will have a male member that never becomes flaccid (i.e., soft and limp)."

Link: http://sunnah.com/urn/1294400


Quran 55:56 mentions virgins in paradise, for the use of men. Allah ensures that his "rewards" for the faithful are untouched by man or jinni:

"In them [celestial gardens] are women limiting [their] glances, untouched before them by man or jinni - "

Link: http://quran.com/55


Muhammad is quite explicit in describing the "celestial rewards" that Allah promises the faithful.

The Prophet said: “A houri is a most beautiful young woman with a transparent body. The marrow of her bones is visible like the interior lines of pearls and rubies. She looks like red wine in a white glass. She is of white color, and free from the routine physical disabilities of an ordinary woman such as menstruation, menopause, urinal and offal discharge, child bearing and the related pollution. A houri is a girl of tender age, having large breasts which are round (pointed), and not inclined to dangle. Houris dwell in palaces of splendid surroundings."

Link: http://www.scribd.com/doc/4851927/Qualities-and-Attributes-of-Hoors-Hoor-al-ayn-Houris-of-Jannah-Paradise#scribd


It is clear that these celestial "women" are nothing more than semen receptacles for the use of "pious" men. Muhammad himself states these beings do not undergo menstruation or menopause as real women do, nor do they urinate, defecate, bear children, or indeed, seem to have any purpose in existing except to satisfy the sexual fantasies of "pious" Muslim men. They are nothing more than sex objects for the exclusive use of Muslim men.


However, what I am interested in is what the Muslim women get in paradise. Muhammad seems to relish describing in detail the celestial rewards that his male followers will receive, but what will Muslim women get?

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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:29 am

Kotta Telangana wrote:However, what I am interested in is what the Muslim women get in paradise. Muhammad seems to relish describing in detail the celestial rewards that his male followers will receive, but what will Muslim women get?


A penis, so that they can feel safe.
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Postby North America Inc » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:30 am

Well, i think we all know what's going to happen in this thread.

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Islam is evil and sexist. News at 11.
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There's a reason 2nd and 3rd generation British Muslims are so easily radicalised to fight the country that has sheltered and provided for them, and it's not just misguided racist yobs belittling them...

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Postby Kotta Telangana » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:37 am

The Alma Mater wrote:A penis, so that they can feel safe.


Seems pretty reasonable to me. Allah is clear that women are inherently worth less than men, so it makes sense that Muslim women would receive a penis as a "reward" for being a faithful slave of Allah for so many years.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:38 am

North America Inc wrote:Well, i think we all know what's going to happen in this thread.


We are going to find out what good moslimas do after death ? ;)

Do muslim marriages end after death btw ?
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Shouldn't take too long for Gauthier to descend upon this ungodly thread with all the sarcasm he can muster.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:39 am

Kotta Telangana wrote:Ibn Warraq, a famous pro-secular, ex-Muslim author,once described the Islamic "heaven" (jannah) as a cosmic brothel full of women for the exclusive use of "pious" men. I thought he was exaggerating at first, but after being exposed to Islamic scriptures (the Quran and the hadiths), it seems that this is actually a fairly accurate portrayal of what the Islamic "God" offers its believers.


Allah's Apostle [Muhammad] said, "In Paradise there is a pavilion made of a single hollow pearl sixty miles wide, in each corner of which there are wives who will not see those in the other corners; and the believers will visit and enjoy them. And there are two gardens, the utensils and contents of which are made of silver; and two other gardens, the utensils and contents of which are made of so-and-so (i.e. gold) and nothing will prevent the people staying in the Garden of Eden from seeing their Lord except the curtain of Majesty over His Face."

Link: http://www.sahih-bukhari.com/Pages/Bukhari_6_60.php


Allah promises to give his devout believers the women with the "most desirable vaginas" as well as eternal erections for the "pious" men. He also says that all unbeliever women in hell will be available for sexual usage by "pious" Muslim men:

Abu ‘Umama reported that Allah’s Messenger (صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم) said: "There is no one whom Allah will admit to Paradise but Allah will marry him to seventy-two wives, two from houris and seventy from his inheritance from the people of Hell, all of whom will have desirable front passages (vaginas) and he will have a male member that never becomes flaccid (i.e., soft and limp)."

Link: http://sunnah.com/urn/1294400


Quran 55:56 mentions virgins in paradise, for the use of men. Allah ensures that his "rewards" for the faithful are untouched by man or jinni:

"In them [celestial gardens] are women limiting [their] glances, untouched before them by man or jinni - "

Link: http://quran.com/55


Muhammad is quite explicit in describing the "celestial rewards" that Allah promises the faithful.

The Prophet said: “A houri is a most beautiful young woman with a transparent body. The marrow of her bones is visible like the interior lines of pearls and rubies. She looks like red wine in a white glass. She is of white color, and free from the routine physical disabilities of an ordinary woman such as menstruation, menopause, urinal and offal discharge, child bearing and the related pollution. A houri is a girl of tender age, having large breasts which are round (pointed), and not inclined to dangle. Houris dwell in palaces of splendid surroundings."

Link: http://www.scribd.com/doc/4851927/Qualities-and-Attributes-of-Hoors-Hoor-al-ayn-Houris-of-Jannah-Paradise#scribd


It is clear that these celestial "women" are nothing more than semen receptacles for the use of "pious" men. Muhammad himself states these beings do not undergo menstruation or menopause as real women do, nor do they urinate, defecate, bear children, or indeed, seem to have any purpose in existing except to satisfy the sexual fantasies of "pious" Muslim men. They are nothing more than sex objects for the exclusive use of Muslim men.


However, what I am interested in is what the Muslim women get in paradise. Muhammad seems to relish describing in detail the celestial rewards that his male followers will receive, but what will Muslim women get?

And Christianity demands you take the wives and harems of those you conquer, for they are now your property.
Your point?

As I understand it, some scholars believe that the whole "72 virgins" thing might be a mistranslation anyway and refer to something else. What, I'm not sure. But I think they're a minority of scholars so that could mean anything.
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Postby New Werpland » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:42 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Kotta Telangana wrote:*shortened*

And Christianity demands you take the wives and harems of those you conquer, for they are now your property.
Your point?

It does?

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Postby Kotta Telangana » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:44 am

The Alma Mater wrote:Do muslim marriages end after death btw ?


"Houris do not want wives to annoy their husbands, since the houris will also be the wives of the husbands in the afterlife. "Mu’adh bin Jobal (Allah be pleased with him) reported that Allah's Messenger (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, 'A woman does not annoy her husband but his spouse from amongst the maidens with wide eyes intensely white and deeply black will say: Do not annoy him, may Allah ruin you." He is with you as a passing guest. Very soon, he will part with you and come to us."

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Imperializt Russia wrote:And Christianity demands you take the wives and harems of those you conquer, for they are now your property.
Your point?

It does?

The Old Testament (which, IIRC, is pretty heavily taken from Judaism) is pretty brutal.
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Imperializt Russia wrote:
New Werpland wrote:It does?

The Old Testament (which, IIRC, is pretty heavily taken from Judaism) is pretty brutal.
Brother dies? His wife is yours if you want it. Kill a guy in a war? His shit is now yours. This includes wives, daughters, harems, mothers, slaves, wives' slaves and certain female pets.

I think the OP's point is that people still take everything literal in the Koran, while most Christians do not.

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Kotta Telangana wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:A penis, so that they can feel safe.


Seems pretty reasonable to me. Allah is clear that women are inherently worth less than men,.

It's a common theme in the abrahamaic religions.
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Imperializt Russia wrote:
Kotta Telangana wrote:Ibn Warraq, a famous pro-secular, ex-Muslim author,once described the Islamic "heaven" (jannah) as a cosmic brothel full of women for the exclusive use of "pious" men. I thought he was exaggerating at first, but after being exposed to Islamic scriptures (the Quran and the hadiths), it seems that this is actually a fairly accurate portrayal of what the Islamic "God" offers its believers.


Allah's Apostle [Muhammad] said, "In Paradise there is a pavilion made of a single hollow pearl sixty miles wide, in each corner of which there are wives who will not see those in the other corners; and the believers will visit and enjoy them. And there are two gardens, the utensils and contents of which are made of silver; and two other gardens, the utensils and contents of which are made of so-and-so (i.e. gold) and nothing will prevent the people staying in the Garden of Eden from seeing their Lord except the curtain of Majesty over His Face."

Link: http://www.sahih-bukhari.com/Pages/Bukhari_6_60.php


Allah promises to give his devout believers the women with the "most desirable vaginas" as well as eternal erections for the "pious" men. He also says that all unbeliever women in hell will be available for sexual usage by "pious" Muslim men:

Abu ‘Umama reported that Allah’s Messenger (صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم) said: "There is no one whom Allah will admit to Paradise but Allah will marry him to seventy-two wives, two from houris and seventy from his inheritance from the people of Hell, all of whom will have desirable front passages (vaginas) and he will have a male member that never becomes flaccid (i.e., soft and limp)."

Link: http://sunnah.com/urn/1294400


Quran 55:56 mentions virgins in paradise, for the use of men. Allah ensures that his "rewards" for the faithful are untouched by man or jinni:

"In them [celestial gardens] are women limiting [their] glances, untouched before them by man or jinni - "

Link: http://quran.com/55


Muhammad is quite explicit in describing the "celestial rewards" that Allah promises the faithful.

The Prophet said: “A houri is a most beautiful young woman with a transparent body. The marrow of her bones is visible like the interior lines of pearls and rubies. She looks like red wine in a white glass. She is of white color, and free from the routine physical disabilities of an ordinary woman such as menstruation, menopause, urinal and offal discharge, child bearing and the related pollution. A houri is a girl of tender age, having large breasts which are round (pointed), and not inclined to dangle. Houris dwell in palaces of splendid surroundings."

Link: http://www.scribd.com/doc/4851927/Qualities-and-Attributes-of-Hoors-Hoor-al-ayn-Houris-of-Jannah-Paradise#scribd


It is clear that these celestial "women" are nothing more than semen receptacles for the use of "pious" men. Muhammad himself states these beings do not undergo menstruation or menopause as real women do, nor do they urinate, defecate, bear children, or indeed, seem to have any purpose in existing except to satisfy the sexual fantasies of "pious" Muslim men. They are nothing more than sex objects for the exclusive use of Muslim men.


However, what I am interested in is what the Muslim women get in paradise. Muhammad seems to relish describing in detail the celestial rewards that his male followers will receive, but what will Muslim women get?

And Christianity demands you take the wives and harems of those you conquer, for they are now your property.
Your point?

As I understand it, some scholars believe that the whole "72 virgins" thing might be a mistranslation anyway and refer to something else. What, I'm not sure. But I think they're a minority of scholars so that could mean anything.


Pomegranates, iirc it was 72 pomegranates. Which for the time period of Mohammeds people would've been quite a boon.
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Dyakovo wrote:
Kotta Telangana wrote:
Seems pretty reasonable to me. Allah is clear that women are inherently worth less than men,.

It's a common theme in the abrahamaic religions.


The whole genre was based off "Bitch Got Us Kicked Out of Paradise," yet people act like only Muslims relegate women to fucktoy baby factories. *coughcoughJoshDuggarcoughcough*
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North America Inc wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:The Old Testament (which, IIRC, is pretty heavily taken from Judaism) is pretty brutal.
Brother dies? His wife is yours if you want it. Kill a guy in a war? His shit is now yours. This includes wives, daughters, harems, mothers, slaves, wives' slaves and certain female pets.

I think the OP's point is that people still take everything literal in the Koran, while most Christians do not.

Literalism is a relatively new thing in both Christianity and Islam.
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North America Inc wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:The Old Testament (which, IIRC, is pretty heavily taken from Judaism) is pretty brutal.
Brother dies? His wife is yours if you want it. Kill a guy in a war? His shit is now yours. This includes wives, daughters, harems, mothers, slaves, wives' slaves and certain female pets.

I think the OP's point is that people still take everything literal in the Koran, while most Christians do not.


Nah, the OPs point is "waah, waah, Islam is not nice for women".

He does however have a point: Islam is quite unclear about what happens to good women after they die. It truly does imply their marriages become more or less void and that their husband will be fucking around freely with houris (which, depending on the flavour of Islam, may include young boys) - but says very little about what she is supposed to be doing in the meantime.

Some form of "enlightenment" and "riches" are referenced, but that is more or less it.
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Postby Politicoandrous Anthronegative Proplex » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:52 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Kotta Telangana wrote:
Seems pretty reasonable to me. Allah is clear that women are inherently worth less than men,.

It's a common theme in the abrahamaic religions.


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Transoxthraxia wrote:Careful, you might get banned for speaking out against the Religion of Peace.

Or fired.

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Postby North America Inc » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:54 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
North America Inc wrote:I think the OP's point is that people still take everything literal in the Koran, while most Christians do not.

Literalism is a relatively new thing in both Christianity and Islam.

Although new, it's still there.

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Lockdownn wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:Careful, you might get banned for speaking out against the Religion of Peace.

Or fired.

Or beheaded.

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Dyrrachium wrote:
Lockdownn wrote:Or fired.

Or beheaded.

Or lots of things.

Religion of piece my ass.

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Transoxthraxia wrote:Careful, you might get banned for speaking out against the Religion of Peace.

You could be correct in your criticisms and not a dick about it, that would help.
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