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Katyuscha
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Postby Katyuscha » Tue Aug 25, 2015 4:26 pm

I went from being an overzealous, totalitarian fascist to an apathetic anarchist who, if ever given power, would still end up being an overzealous, totalitarian fascist
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Lemonius
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Postby Lemonius » Tue Aug 25, 2015 4:36 pm

Went from a die-hard, ignorant, sexist, transphobic nationalist to a Stalinist, to a Trot, to a Marxist and am now hovering around the general liberal left type region with a strong passion for social justice for the LGBTQPA+ community.

So I would say changed me for the better.
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New Ogunquit
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Postby New Ogunquit » Tue Aug 25, 2015 5:02 pm

I went from annoying quasi-socialist to annoying ultra-quasi-socialist.
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Conserative Morality
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Aug 25, 2015 5:03 pm

Conservative Libertarian YEC to goddamn atheist statist scum.
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Postby New Ogunquit » Tue Aug 25, 2015 5:05 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:Conservative Libertarian YEC to goddamn atheist statist scum.

Don't you mean Conserative Libertarian?
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Geilinor wrote:Get off your high horse.

It's more of a high pony, really.

Ifreann wrote:Farn be locking threads like they were bridges.
Ifreann wrote:Political correctness needs to go further, because the tears of people crying over being called on their bullshit fuel my time machine.


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Ifreann wrote:Not really. The Predator wouldn't bother fighting a baby.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Aug 25, 2015 5:05 pm

New Ogunquit wrote:Don't you mean Conserative Libertarian?

Don't worry, I'm still conserative as fuck. ;)
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Zeinbrad
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Postby Zeinbrad » Tue Aug 25, 2015 5:23 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:Conservative Libertarian YEC to goddamn atheist statist scum.

Here I thought your username was suppose to be ironic.
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Ashlak
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Postby Ashlak » Tue Aug 25, 2015 5:23 pm

My views have changed radically from when I joined NSG back in 2008 (I mainly lurked, so no one from that time will remember me), but that was due to learning more about the world around me in general, not NSG.

Basically, I started out as your standard American conservative, went to right libertarianism, had a brief affair with anarcho-capitalism before going back to right libertarianism, then I realized that laissez-faire capitalism wasn't the best thing ever, and dropped right libertarianism. At that point, I became undecided, and flirted around with various far left ideologies, not being comfortable with any of them. I started looking more towards the center, and finally considered myself a social liberal, which is what I am today.
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Keshetar
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Postby Keshetar » Tue Aug 25, 2015 5:28 pm

This forum didn't make me completely shift, it just made my views a little more of a messy blotch.

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Politicoandrous Anthronegative Proplex
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Postby Politicoandrous Anthronegative Proplex » Tue Sep 01, 2015 2:59 pm

Jute wrote:
Deuxtete wrote:Its fostered a deep dislike for many people and in spite of my own real world experiences its made me more prejudiced against many groups...even groups I self identify with.
I say all that with absolute sincerity.
Which, for example?
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This for me as well. Any social liberalism I had within me was purged and cleaned after seeing the vile pulsating wrath of disagreement that liberals have with social issues.

I'm sorry, that sentence seems like it's missing a word, in which way do you disagree with adherents of your formerly hold political beliefs?


Sorry; the missing word is bolded.

I was previously socially left-centre and economically liberal; akin to some sort of a more moderate socialism or communism in terms of social issues.

When I discovered NSG, I saw the amalgamation of liberalism here; so much rampant and unrestricted "progress" degrading the meaning of human restriction and civility in society. It turned me into some sort of conservative anarchist, if that is humanely and politically possible in today's world. It also correlated along with when I was reading a professional annotation of the Lord of the Flies for leisure, which extrapolated on man's savagery and how civilization is ultimately a failure in containing human impulses of degradation.
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Postby Geilinor » Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:26 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:Conservative Libertarian YEC to goddamn atheist statist scum.

Here I thought your username was suppose to be ironic.

This^
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Lenciland
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Postby Lenciland » Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:34 pm

While I hopefully would have changed on my own, i believe that NS accelerated that change into what I am today. I came in her a small-minded bigot uber religious conservative. I don't even like to look at my first dozen posts. Now I am the avowedly atheist, liberal that I am today. Now while I am not racist like I was before, I'm stil not all of the way there. I still have preconceived notions about certain groups of people, but I'm trying dammit!
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Geilinor
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Postby Geilinor » Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:38 pm

It's interesting how little my views have really changed on NationStates in five years, apart from becoming slightly more socially liberal.
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Kiruri
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Postby Kiruri » Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:38 pm

Katyuscha wrote:I went from being an overzealous, totalitarian fascist to an apathetic anarchist who, if ever given power, would still end up being an overzealous, totalitarian fascist

I knew it! I knew it! I've always wondered: "what attracts me to Katty?". Apart from a whole bunch of other things, the fact you'd end up an overzealous totalitarian fascist anyway adds one more piece to the answer :D I've always had a thing for the idea of totalitarianism and maybe megalomania.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:48 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:Conservative Libertarian YEC to goddamn atheist statist scum.

Here I thought your username was suppose to be ironic.


It is now.

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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Grenartia » Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:51 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:Conservative Libertarian YEC to goddamn atheist queer as fuck, liberal, socialist, statist scum.


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Rusozak
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Postby Rusozak » Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:57 pm

I've become a lot more liberal and open-minded. On the other side, more anti-militant atheism than before.
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The Alexanderians
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Postby The Alexanderians » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:00 pm

I've become extremely jaded
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:20 pm

I became a hippie, that's terrible enough as it is piling on with my current status.
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Postby The Alexanderians » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:22 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:Here I thought your username was suppose to be ironic.

This^

Same
Galloism wrote:Or we can go with feminism doesn't exist. We all imagined it. Collectively.
You can't fight the friction
Women belong in the kitchen
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Everyone belongs in the kitchen
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I have brought dishonor to my gaming clan
Achesia wrote:Threads like this is why I need to stop coming to NSG....

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The Archregimancy wrote:
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Major-Tom wrote:Why am I full of apathy?

I'm just here to be the peanut gallery
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Postby Knokkeheist » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:47 pm

It made by right wing libertarian feelings stronger with all these commies here.

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Postby The United Remnants of America » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:50 pm

Comparing my political tests between now and when I first made a nation, I've apparently gone from being a leftist authoritarian to being a center-left libertarian.

I guess NS did that.
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Postby Jute » Wed Sep 02, 2015 8:42 am

Politicoandrous Anthronegative Proplex wrote:
Jute wrote:Which, for example?

I'm sorry, that sentence seems like it's missing a word, in which way do you disagree with adherents of your formerly hold political beliefs?


Sorry; the missing word is bolded.

I was previously socially left-centre and economically liberal; akin to some sort of a more moderate socialism or communism in terms of social issues.

When I discovered NSG, I saw the amalgamation of liberalism here; so much rampant and unrestricted "progress" degrading the meaning of human restriction and civility in society. It turned me into some sort of conservative anarchist, if that is humanely and politically possible in today's world. It also correlated along with when I was reading a professional annotation of the Lord of the Flies for leisure, which extrapolated on man's savagery and how civilization is ultimately a failure in containing human impulses of degradation.

"Conservative anarchist"? Someone both against government, but in favor of capitalism?
And could you provide some examples of that "rampant and unrestricted "progress" degrading the meaning of human restriction and civility in society." because I don't know if I have even seen it here ever before.
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Postby Hladgos » Wed Sep 02, 2015 8:43 am

I used to be pretty liberal and now I'm just eating up everything Trump has to say. Thanks NS!
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Postby Jute » Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:39 am

Grenartia wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:Conservative Libertarian YEC to goddamn atheist queer as fuck, liberal, socialist, statist scum.


Pretty much me.

You were a YEC?
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When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...
The notion that science and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
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