Trump-Inspired Hate Crime In Boston

[Luziyca]

Only in America... *sigh* I expect the offenders will get off scot-free.

[The Conez Imperium]

When there's another shooting in America, they should cite Trump as their raison d'etre.

[Geanna]

I'd suggest going after the argument and not making assumptions mate, soap boxes don't do so well.

Lolwhut?

You're also ignoring the fact that this has played off quite well with the Cold War, and the post-9/11 world allowing the rise of American Nationalism and the implications with it. Orson isn't wrong that it does happen - the lines may shift, however going after the gent for some bullshit rubbish is rather poor.

Again, what?

That really wasn't that hard to understand - obviously you're not worth the time to converse with. Cheers.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Only in America... *sigh* I expect the offenders will get off scot-free.

Because hate crimes don't happen anywhere else kids, remember America is hell on earth

[Luziyca]

Only in America... *sigh* I expect the offenders will get off scot-free.

Because hate crimes don't happen anywhere else kids, remember America is hell on earth

They do happen elsewhere, but I anticipate they will get off scot-free. Maybe a year at worst.

[Mavorpen]

That really wasn't that hard to understand - obviously you're not worth the time to converse with. Cheers.

Oh no, I understood it. My confusion wasn't on that end. My confusion was concerning how in the world you seemed to completely misunderstand my post, considering yours had virtually nothing to do with it.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Because hate crimes don't happen anywhere else kids, remember America is hell on earth

They do happen elsewhere, but I anticipate they will get off scot-free. Maybe a year at worst.

Based on what exactly?

[The Orson Empire]

The same tactics used in the 20th century still work today.

...No, they don't. In the 20th century, you could get away with explicitly calling Obama a "nigger" or calling him a "monkey" without facing ire. Now, you have to be more subtle. You say he's not a "real American." You call him a Muslim. You say he's not like "us."

Fearmongering is just as effective as it was ages ago, or else the Republican Party would not nearly be as popular as it is today. Fearmongering literally forms the backbone of the GOP.

Why the sudden goal post shift? I'm not arguing that it isn't effective. I'm arguing that expecting the Republican party as a whole to suddenly start arguing for literal Nazi-like policies is pretty damn absurd.

The tactic is still the same. The method of carrying out the tactic may have changed, but the tactic itself has never changed. These are the same tactics that were in use hundreds of years ago. They are still effective because human mentality has not changed. We may have advanced technology, but the mentality of humans is still stuck in the Stone Age.

Also, the Republican Party is far-right, just as the Nazi's were. They may not be as blunt as the Nazi's, but they support some of the same authoritarian bullshit. Sociopaths tend to agree with other sociopaths.

[Mavorpen]

The tactic is still the same. The method of carrying out the tactic may have changed, but the tactic itself has never changed.

...Then by definition, the tactic is not the same.

These are the same tactics that were in use hundreds of years ago.

No, they aren't. The simple fact that we have the internet significantly changes how "fear mongering" works compared to a century ago.

They are still effective because human mentality has not changed. We may have advanced technology, but the mentality of humans is still stuck in the Stone Age.

I'm not even sure how to respond to this gibberish.

Also, the Republican Party is far-right, just as the Nazi's were. They may not be as blunt as the Nazi's, but they support some of the same authoritarian bullshit. Sociopaths tend to agree with other sociopaths.

I'm beginning to wonder whether you know what a Nazi actually is. Republicans in general aren't anywhere close to that.

[Greed and Death]

This is getting idiotic and out of hand.

What should really scare you is Trump is assembling armed poll place watching units for the primaries, and presumably the general election.

[Geanna]

Also, the Republican Party is far-right, just as the Nazi's were. They may not be as blunt as the Nazi's, but they support some of the same authoritarian bullshit. Sociopaths tend to agree with other sociopaths.

The Democrats are also very right of the line, and just a few spaces left of the GOP. Sorry to say, but the GOP's majority are not Nazi sympathisers, that's a very erroneous, and bad generalisation and assumption. You're citing fearmongering and what not, and then resorting to dehumanising these people as 'Sociopaths' and simply pulling off the same argument you're allegedly against.

[Alien Space Bats]

Not the Rubio part. I understand that. I meant about the relocation of his residency to Maine.

Oh.

Well, the Constitution forbids Electors from casting their votes for both a Presidential and a Vice Presidential candidate from the same State. So if Jeb Bush were to remain a Floridian, he couldn't on the same ticket as Marco Rubio, because then only one of the two of them could be elected.

Moving to Maine resolves the problem.

[Luziyca]

They do happen elsewhere, but I anticipate they will get off scot-free. Maybe a year at worst.

Based on what exactly?

The news. I have become more and more suspicious of American intentions ever since I've gotten involved on NSG. However, I think a year is not accurate: they are not police officers. I doubt they could go free if they were not police officers.

As for Trump, he makes the USA look bad, but I am partially hoping he wins so the USA can go out with a big bang, and have the rest of the world mock it as they look towards Beijing and Moscow.

[Fanosolia]

wow... That's all you have to say Donald. Just... wow. Like okay, I get why some would be anti-immigration. I do, but this is nothing short of assault. Trump, hey, you know saying that assholes like have "have passion" is not the best thing to say. I know you got no chance in the first place to win, but at least be clear that, hopefully, this isn't what you meant, and that you're sorry it had to happen. At least then you don't come off like an idiot.

Only in America... *sigh* I expect the offenders will get off scot-free.

Because hate crimes don't happen anywhere else kids, remember America is hell on earth

This^ mind you I don't think anyone is as stupid as trump though in terms of leaders.

[The Orson Empire]

Also, the Republican Party is far-right, just as the Nazi's were. They may not be as blunt as the Nazi's, but they support some of the same authoritarian bullshit. Sociopaths tend to agree with other sociopaths.

The Democrats are also very right of the line, and just a few spaces left of the GOP. Sorry to say, but the GOP's majority are not Nazi sympathisers, that's a very erroneous, and bad generalisation and assumption. You're citing fearmongering and what not, and then resorting to dehumanising these people as 'Sociopaths' and simply pulling off the same argument you're allegedly against.

I'm not saying any of them are Nazi sympathizers. I am just saying that many of them are as authoritarian as the Nazi's were.

And I'm not dehumanizing these people at all. These people, by definition are sociopaths. They show very little empathy towards the American people and only care about themselves.

[Fanosolia]

The Democrats are also very right of the line, and just a few spaces left of the GOP. Sorry to say, but the GOP's majority are not Nazi sympathisers, that's a very erroneous, and bad generalisation and assumption. You're citing fearmongering and what not, and then resorting to dehumanising these people as 'Sociopaths' and simply pulling off the same argument you're allegedly against.

I'm not saying any of them are Nazi sympathizers. I am just saying that many of them are as authoritarian as the Nazi's were.

And I'm not dehumanizing these people at all. These people, by definition are sociopaths. They show very little empathy towards the American people and only care about themselves.

I think "sociopaths" gives them too much credit, honestly.

[Cannot think of a name]

Not the Rubio part. I understand that. I meant about the relocation of his residency to Maine.

Oh.

Well, the Constitution forbids Electors from casting their votes for both a Presidential and a Vice Presidential candidate from the same State. So if Jeb Bush were to remain a Floridian, he couldn't on the same ticket as Marco Rubio, because then only one of the two of them could be elected.

Moving to Maine resolves the problem.

Your civics classes where way better than my civics classes.

[Zottistan]

Somebody actually listened to Donald trump? No wonder they got violent.

[Kazarogkai]

That's not likely. Feeding people fear is effective, but only up to a certain point.

What exactly is that point, though? Fear-mongering is a very effective political strategy. I mean, just look at what happened in Nazi Germany. The Nazi's blamed the Jews for all of Germany's problems, and you and I both know how that turned out.

But that was in a severe state of crisis in a time of utter hopelessness and among a people who demanded vindication for their losses in times past. That is not the case in america, atleast not at the moment, as such the success of such things will be limited until such opportunities arrive. Men like Hitler do not just simply rise out of nowhere and in any time and place they wish, they are creatures of circumstance and opportunity. Now on the other hand I can see someone like Benito Mussolini, António de Oliveira Salazar, or heck even Joseph Stalin come to power in times like these.

[TotallyNotEvilLand]

I thought the 2012 campaign led to some stupid shit, but this? This goes above and beyond.

[Ifreann]

This is getting idiotic and out of hand.

What should really scare you is Trump is assembling armed poll place watching units for the primaries, and presumably the general election.

What's scary about that? Some vets will raid a National Guard outpost and have a shoot-out with the Trump boys at the local jailhouse.

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Not the Rubio part. I understand that. I meant about the relocation of his residency to Maine.

Oh.

Well, the Constitution forbids Electors from casting their votes for both a Presidential and a Vice Presidential candidate from the same State. So if Jeb Bush were to remain a Floridian, he couldn't on the same ticket as Marco Rubio, because then only one of the two of them could be elected.

Moving to Maine resolves the problem.

Really? What a strange law.

[Geilinor]

Holy shit. Trump needs to control himself and condemn violence.

[Kazarogkai]

The Democrats are also very right of the line, and just a few spaces left of the GOP. Sorry to say, but the GOP's majority are not Nazi sympathisers, that's a very erroneous, and bad generalisation and assumption. You're citing fearmongering and what not, and then resorting to dehumanising these people as 'Sociopaths' and simply pulling off the same argument you're allegedly against.

I'm not saying any of them are Nazi sympathizers. I am just saying that many of them are as authoritarian as the Nazi's were.

And I'm not dehumanizing these people at all. These people, by definition are sociopaths. They show very little empathy towards the American people and only care about themselves.

If you are just specifically referring to authoritarianism then well you would be partially right. When it comes to economics they are pretty liberal(by the classical definition) typically with a few exceptions. Now on the other hand when it comes to Social matters that I can agree with you, they can be pretty authoritarian. Problem with calling them a band of Nazis is the fact that they lack the clear cut contempt for Liberal democracy that a proper Nazi, or fascist in general, has. The republicans wouldn't dare establish a true dictatorship or engage in the violent paramilitary tactics of the Brown Shirts, such things would be unacceptable in this country even to their own constituents. They may have a predisposition for rigging the system for their own benefits, but this is not a complete showing of true contempt for democracy and more just straight up corruption that is practiced by pretty much everyone(including the democrats) in order to allow them to gain an edge against the competition.

[Ethel mermania]

Only in America... *sigh* I expect the offenders will get off scot-free.

i doubt that severly

[Gauthier]

No, but nice tu quoque.

I'm also still wondering how people using the term "SJW" in a serious manner is still a thing.

SJW is NSG's version of Emmanuel Goldstein.