Trump-Inspired Hate Crime In Boston

[Northwest Slobovia]

Ohio has already said no under its sore-loser law. I expect other states will follow their lead; their logic was that since he registered Republican and debated as a Republican, he's a Republican.

We shouldn't sidetrack this any further, but several reporters have looked into this, and found that "sore loser" laws have never been successfully used to deny a Presidential candidate access to the ballot. There are several examples of this in history, John Anderson's 1980 run for the White House being the latest.

Fair enough; if the time comes, we'll see.

If we were to grant that the GOP can't stop Trump from running as an independent, and that he is still doing well when he decided to jump ship, I'm still not sure they'd want to keep him. In light of the current event, it would seem that they can either lose with him or lose without him. Since the RNC seems to want to try to drag the party away from racism and sexism, they might be willing to take the loss and try again in four years. But perhaps that's asking a bit much of my silly party.

[Liriena]

It speaks volumes that Trump thinks passion for his cause leads to this kind of criminality.

Isn't that how SJWs justify race riots?

No, but nice tu quoque.

[Mavorpen]

Isn't that how SJWs justify race riots?

No, but nice tu quoque.

I'm also still wondering how people using the term "SJW" in a serious manner is still a thing.

[Sam Hyde]

No, but nice tu quoque.

I'm also still wondering how people using the term "SJW" in a serious manner is still a thing.

Like people using the term "systemic racism", thinking critical theory is valid, and using the term "intersectionality". I don't how people other than 12 year old girls on Tumblr actually use and are serious about it.

[The Orson Empire]

I'm putting this here instead of in the Republican nomination thread since it's a major story on its own, and the issues raised could cause that discussion to veer off-topic.

The impact of Donald Trump’s anti-immigrant broadsides appears to have veered dangerously far off the presidential campaign trail.

Police in Boston say that one of two brothers who allegedly beat a homeless Hispanic man cited Trump’s message on immigration as a motivation for their attack. “Donald Trump was right, all these illegals need to be deported,” Scott Leader, 38, told officers, according to a police report cited by The Boston Globe.

Leader and his brother, Steve, were arrested and charged with multiple assault charges after police said they urinated on and then assaulted a 58-year-old homeless man they found sleeping outside a T-station as they walked home from a Red Sox game. They allegedly beat him with a metal pole, breaking his nose and causing other injuries. According to the Globe, Scott Leader told police it was OK to assault the man because he was Hispanic and homeless. Both men, who have extensive criminal records, pleaded not guilty and said the homeless man started the confrontation.

Officials in Boston immediately denounced the attack. But Trump, who has made no apology for suggesting some Mexican immigrants were “rapists” and calling for their mass deportation, appeared to brush off the incident when he was asked about it while campaigning Wednesday in New Hampshire. “I think that would be a shame,” he said, according to The Boston Herald, in reference to the report. He said he hadn’t heard about the incident but then defended his most ardent supporters as “passionate.”

I will say, the people that are following me are very passionate. They love this country. They want this country to be great again. But they are very passionate. I will say that.

The beating is awful. There's no denying that. However, what I find to be the most shocking element of this is Trump's response to this attack. Rather than express sorrow that his words were misconstrued or condemn the attack, he chose to dismiss it with a "Boys will be boys" style comment. I'm a free speech advocate, and I believe firmly that he's had a perfect right to say whatever he said. However, to casually disregard the fact that his words inspired such an ugly action, and to not even express horror at the attack or sympathy for the victim? That's beyond the pale. It's one thing to break convention when running for office, but it's another thing entirely to discard the basic tenets of human decency.

A few questions spring to mind: Is this going to tank his campaign, or will it simply encourage the id-focused among his followers? Does he realize how Goering-ish he sounds? Is there a risk of his reckless rhetoric leading to further attacks?

Why are you surprised at Trump's response? Trump has always been a narcissistic sociopath.

[MERIZoC]

No, but nice tu quoque.

I'm also still wondering how people using the term "SJW" in a serious manner is still a thing.

I'm wondering why I still read Sam's posts.

[Sam Hyde]

I'm also still wondering how people using the term "SJW" in a serious manner is still a thing.

I'm wondering why I still read Sam's posts.

Because you actually love me and are attracted by my alluring outlaw attitude.

If James Dean was a fascist, he'd be me.

[Mavorpen]

I'm also still wondering how people using the term "SJW" in a serious manner is still a thing.

I'm wondering why I still read Sam's posts.

Because watching racists flail about trying to justify their racism is mildly entertaining?

*shrug* I dunno, I've moved past it.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I'm wondering why I still read Sam's posts.

Because you actually love me and are attracted by alluring outlaw attitude.

If James Dean was a fascist, he'd be me.

Lolwut?

[Mavorpen]

Because you actually love me and are attracted by alluring outlaw attitude.

If James Dean was a fascist, he'd be me.

Lolwut?

"I'M SPECIAL, PAY ATTENTION TO ME!"

[Planita]

Damn it Trump!

[Sam Hyde]

I'm wondering why I still read Sam's posts.

Because watching racists flail about trying to justify their racism is mildly entertaining?

*shrug* I dunno, I've moved past it.

Whatever helps you sleep at night. If we just flailed about and were mildly entertaining, then us "racists" wouldn't be one of the biggest "problems" in our society.

But actually, it works to our advantage to be underestimated, so yes, please continue.

[Sam Hyde]

Lolwut?

"I'M SPECIAL, PAY ATTENTION TO ME!"

Hey look who's flailing.

[Sam Hyde]

Because you actually love me and are attracted by alluring outlaw attitude.

If James Dean was a fascist, he'd be me.

Lolwut?

threesome?

[The Cobalt Sky]

NOOOOO! DID YOU TWO JUST START AN ARGUMENT WITH ASB? YOU AREN'T GOING TO WIN, HE'S A GENIUS!

I wasn't disputing what he said, just commenting on it.

You're still playing a very dangerous game, USS.

[Rusozak]

Trump is honest and straight forward with his opinions, I'll give him that. I think that's the biggest appeal in him. But peeling away the gilding on a gilded turd doesn't make it better. I'm not a huge fan of the democrats either, but at least they don't fan the flames of hate crimes.

[Mavorpen]

Trump is honest and straight forward with his opinions, I'll give him that. I think that's the biggest appeal in him. But peeling away the gilding on a gilded turd doesn't make it better. I'm not a huge fan of the democrats either, but at least they don't fan the flames of hate crimes.

Ideally, the solution would be to put out the flames altogether. But seeing as Trump has actual supporters, it's clear that there's quite a bit of work ahead of us before that happens.

[Liriena]

I'm also still wondering how people using the term "SJW" in a serious manner is still a thing.

Like people using the term "systemic racism", thinking critical theory is valid, and using the term "intersectionality". I don't how people other than 12 year old girls on Tumblr actually use and are serious about it.

That's probably because you're not college educated.

[Liriena]

No, but nice tu quoque.

I'm also still wondering how people using the term "SJW" in a serious manner is still a thing.

It's a slur and it's pathetic.

[Sam Hyde]

Like people using the term "systemic racism", thinking critical theory is valid, and using the term "intersectionality". I don't how people other than 12 year old girls on Tumblr actually use and are serious about it.

That's probably because you're not college educated.

Nah, I went to college, I just majored in something that actually mattered, i.e., accounting.

[The Orson Empire]

The fact that people Trump's bullshit is terrifying. And seeing as the Republicans are reaching a new low every day, how much lower are they going to go than this? Are they just going say that all illegal immigrants should be lined up against the wall and shot, like its the Holocaust? That seems to be in the direction they are heading.

[Mavorpen]

Like people using the term "systemic racism", thinking critical theory is valid, and using the term "intersectionality". I don't how people other than 12 year old girls on Tumblr actually use and are serious about it.

That's probably because you're not college educated.

Now now, let's not assume everyone who isn't college educated is so willfully ignorant about the world.

[Mavorpen]

The fact that people Trump's bullshit is terrifying. And seeing as the Republicans are reaching a new low every day, how much lower are they going to go than this? Are they just going say that all illegal immigrants should be lined up against the wall and shot, like its the Holocaust? That seems to be in the direction they are heading.

That's not likely. Feeding people fear is effective, but only up to a certain point.

[Liriena]

That's probably because you're not college educated.

Nah, I went to college, I just majored in something that actually mattered, i.e., accounting.

Thanks for proving my point: You are prejudiced and rather ignorant on matters unrelated to your field of study.

I do apologise for assuming your ignorant prejudice was due to not being college educated, though.

[The Orson Empire]

The fact that people Trump's bullshit is terrifying. And seeing as the Republicans are reaching a new low every day, how much lower are they going to go than this? Are they just going say that all illegal immigrants should be lined up against the wall and shot, like its the Holocaust? That seems to be in the direction they are heading.

That's not likely. Feeding people fear is effective, but only up to a certain point.

What exactly is that point, though? Fear-mongering is a very effective political strategy. I mean, just look at what happened in Nazi Germany. The Nazi's blamed the Jews for all of Germany's problems, and you and I both know how that turned out.