American College Football(NCAAF) 2015-2016 Discussion Thread

[The united states of Saints]

Ahahahaha LSU vs Alabama this saturday baby. Woooo Geaux Tigers!!!!!!! I am ready for the show to start.

Ok I'm done but what I want to know is how is Alabama ranked fourth over the likes of TCU and Michigan state, I can kinda see why Alabama is ranked over Baylor in terms of Strength of Schedule, but seriously why over the other two

[Luminesa]

Ahahahaha LSU vs Alabama this saturday baby. Woooo Geaux Tigers!!!!!!! I am ready for the show to start.

Ok I'm done but what I want to know is how is Alabama ranked fourth over the likes of TCU and Michigan state, I can kinda see why Alabama is ranked over Baylor in terms of Strength of Schedule, but seriously why over the other two

Because TCU doesn't have a D (they're in the same division as Baylor, and Big 12 is known for AWESOME OFFENSE...no D) and they almost got beat by Texas Tech (which would have admittedly been awesome.)

And Michigan State barely beat Michigan. With a miracle.

Considering Alabama got beat by Ole Miss, they should be lower. But the College Football Playoff people just love sticking Bama in there...it's almost like they would all hyperventilate if Bama wasn't in there every year, considering they've been there for the last three years or so...

[Outer Sparta]

Come on Clemson. Hold off Florida State!

[Outer Sparta]

Yes Clemson! Ya scored! 23-13 lead for Clemson with 2 minutes remaining!

[The united states of Saints]

What happened? we were supposed to be better this year against bama and yet we have been doing terrible fournette has been getting shut down. Brandon harris can't seem to make accurate throws anymore, defense can't stop them, offensive line is also struggling. Nothing has been going right in the second half.

[Bythyrona]

The Fuck The CFP Poll Top 25 - Week 10

1. Baylor (8-0)
2. Ohio State (9-0)
3. Clemson (9-0)
4. Alabama (7-1)
5. Oklahoma State (9-0)
6. Stanford (8-1)
7. Notre Dame (8-1)
8. Iowa (9-0)
9. Utah (8-1)
10. LSU (7-1)
11. TCU (8-1)
12. Michigan State (8-1)
13. Michigan (7-2)
14. Oklahoma (8-1)
15. Florida (8-1)
16. Mississippi State (7-2)
17. Wisconsin (8-2)
18. UCLA (7-2)
19. Northwestern (7-2)
20. Houston (9-0)
21. Temple (8-1)
22. Florida State (7-2)
23. Navy (8-1)
24. Memphis (8-1)
25. USC (6-3)
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IN: Houston, Navy, Northwestern
OUT: Ole Miss, Texas A&M, Toledo
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The Best of the Rest:
#26 North Carolina, #27 BYU, #28 Ole Miss, #29 Toledo, #30 Boise State, #31 Oregon, #32 Texas A&M, #33 Georgia, #34 Washington State, #35 Bowling Green, #36 NC State, #37 Penn State, #38 Western Kentucky, #39t Duke, #39t Miami, #39t Pittsburgh, #40 Tennessee

[Arkinesia]

Any reasons anyone had were stupid. Georgia couldn't pick a quarterback from among a Virginia cast-off (that institution being known for its prolific pass offenses of late, ha!), a perennial backup who was known to be no more than a warm body, and a guy whose name sounds like Baton Twirler. Anyone who seriously thought Georgia could just ride Keith Marshall, Nick Chubb, or Sony Michel to a 10-2 or 11-1 record had to be out of their gourds.

Also, Mark Richt can't coach his way out of a wet paper bag, so there's that. Any tool could just ring up 6-8 wins in Athens every year. Hell, I could do it. The degree of talent UGA has access to is more than adequate, so that on its own should have been sufficient reason for people to think twice about ranking UGA as a top ten team—their coach sucks.

...considering they finished 10-3 and #9 last year, no, it wasn't that dumb. Nick Chubb was easily good enough to ride out to a ten win season. Richt is not an idiot, lol. You're absolutely looking at it from the perspective of hindsight.

"[The Bulldogs] have just three true SEC road games this year (Florida is a neutral site) and finished #9 in the country last year despite having a first year starting QB. They have a first year starter once again but field the best set of running backs in the country. [...] HC Mark Richt has never finished lower than third in his division in his fourteen years here and no other SEC team has done that. UGA has never won a national title under Richt and many fans believe he has underachieved because he raised expectations so high. [...] In Richt's second season ('02), he led Georgia to its first SEC title in twenty years and set a school record with thirteen wins (#3 AP). Only UGA and USC finished in the top ten each year from 2002-2005. UGA's D finished in the top twenty for seven straight years ('01-'07). [...] They were -3 net upsets last year and their +82.3 YPG in SEC play was best in the East (tied for second in the SEC). [...] Talent-wise, Georgia is one of the big boys in the SEC and are a legitimate SEC and national title contender."

They'll never win a title with Richt. Also, it's funny you'd cite his record 13 wins…the 12-game season wasn't even introduced until 2002, which incidentally is the second year of Richt's tenure. So the only way a coach could have gotten to 13 beforehand was to win every single game after the SEC Championship Game was introduced in 1994. That's a very tiny window of alternative possibilities, and so I'd say using that as a fence to say “Richt is secretly an awesome coach!!” is more than a bit silly.

Don't forget how he got his loss that year. He lost to an Alabama team with an utterly boneheaded coaching decision in the final seconds of the game. Literally who the fuck calls slants when you have no timeouts and the clock is running out? Mark Richt. That's who.

I like to tell Georgia fans to look at all the ten-win seasons in Richt's tenure, and then I tell them “now, if you had a competent coach, like a Gary Patterson, a Bill Snyder, or someone who actually knew how to take advantage of his talent, every one of those ten-plus win seasons would be either near-title appearances or title appearances.”

Bear in mind this is the guy who had Knowshon Moreno, Matthew Stafford, and Mohamed Massaquoi on the same team in 2008 and he couldn't even split Florida and Georgia Tech. He lost to Florida in a blowout and lost to Tech in a freakin' home game.

You're gonna tell me that in spite of the fact that he can't win with constant five-star classes, he can't win in years with overwhelming amounts of current on-field talent, he can't win no matter how many future NFL stars he plays, that he's still a good coach? Come on! Any idiot could win 6-8 games every year, maybe even 9 with some dumb luck. What Richt has done at Georgia is wholly unimpressive to anyone who seriously follows major college football.

[Outer Sparta]

Michgan State lost, Memphis lost, Ole Miss lost, wow. Gonna be a huge shakeup here.

[Bythyrona]

They'll never win a title with Richt. Also, it's funny you'd cite his record 13 wins…the 12-game season wasn't even introduced until 2002, which incidentally is the second year of Richt's tenure. So the only way a coach could have gotten to 13 beforehand was to win every single game after the SEC Championship Game was introduced in 1994. That's a very tiny window of alternative possibilities, and so I'd say using that as a fence to say “Richt is secretly an awesome coach!!” is more than a bit silly.

Don't forget how he got his loss that year. He lost to an Alabama team with an utterly boneheaded coaching decision in the final seconds of the game. Literally who the fuck calls slants when you have no timeouts and the clock is running out? Mark Richt. That's who.

I like to tell Georgia fans to look at all the ten-win seasons in Richt's tenure, and then I tell them “now, if you had a competent coach, like a Gary Patterson, a Bill Snyder, or someone who actually knew how to take advantage of his talent, every one of those ten-plus win seasons would be either near-title appearances or title appearances.”

Bear in mind this is the guy who had Knowshon Moreno, Matthew Stafford, and Mohamed Massaquoi on the same team in 2008 and he couldn't even split Florida and Georgia Tech. He lost to Florida in a blowout and lost to Tech in a freakin' home game.

You're gonna tell me that in spite of the fact that he can't win with constant five-star classes, he can't win in years with overwhelming amounts of current on-field talent, he can't win no matter how many future NFL stars he plays, that he's still a good coach? Come on! Any idiot could win 6-8 games every year, maybe even 9 with some dumb luck. What Richt has done at Georgia is wholly unimpressive to anyone who seriously follows major college football.

I didn't say it, I quoted it from Phil Steele. What the fuck does the length of the season have to do with going 13-1? That was the best Georgia season the Dawgs had since Dooley; did you also conveniently forget Georgia's other numerous top ten finishes under Richt? You're factually wrong about the loss in 2002, by the way - the single loss Georgia had in 2002 was in the rivalry game to Florida, 20-13. The loss in 2012 was to the best team in the nation - Richt's Dawgs put up more of a fight against the Tide in the SEC Championship Game than anyone that season (save for a Manziel-led Aggies team) had done.

If Snyder and Patterson REALLY knew how to take advantage of their talent, they'd have a won a national title in all their years of coaching, because any bonehead can make putrid programs into winners. It's so easy in fact that they should have hired me instead to do it. It's so easy, man - who gives a fuck about close finishes and successful seasons? Anyone who follows college football seriously knows that Kansas State and TCU will never win a title under either coach. Now, if they had Nick Saban or Urban Meyer...

No, really, it isn't - you sound like every ungrateful Georgia, Oklahoma, and Nebraska fan that hates the coach that has built the program into a consistent winner. Richt is a victim of his own success, and it's absolutely fucking hilarious how people like you can sit there and consider multiple double-digit win seasons a barometer of failure. That fact that you suggest that's it's "so easy" to win 6-8 games in the SEC shows your "serious" understanding of the game.

[Luminesa]

Dang it, LSU...Man...

Oh well. Provided LSU wins out the rest of theirs, they should be fine. It's frustrating, though,
we would have been more ready if we actually had a harder schedule. I liked playing dummy teams, but the only good team we've played to prepare ourselves for this final hard-game stretch is Florida. This is frustrating.

[Torisakia]

See ya'll in 2 weeks, when Fournette drops 300 yds rushing on ya'll.

ROFL. Alabama kickers are the worst. Literally, ya'll cannot kick from 37 yards. Our kicker
can kick 51. XD

[Luminesa]

See ya'll in 2 weeks, when Fournette drops 300 yds rushing on ya'll.

ROFL. Alabama kickers are the worst. Literally, ya'll cannot kick from 37 yards. Our kicker
can kick 51. XD

You know what? Usually I'm right. You actually had a decent kicker this time.

And your D is actually quite good.

[ROM]

I'm happy Nebraska won against MSU. Honestly surprised me, considering how unimpressed I have been with Riley. Oh and Georgia fans, we here at Nebraska would have Richt over Riley in a heartbeat, especially considering Richt can recruit

[Luminesa]

I'm happy Nebraska won against MSU. Honestly surprised me, considering how unimpressed I have been with Riley. Oh and Georgia fans, we here at Nebraska would have Richt over Riley in a heartbeat, especially considering Richt can recruit

*Imagines a Nebraska player hitting Connor Cook over the head with a corn on the cob.*
...Heheh...go Cornhuskers.

[Torisakia]

You know what? Usually I'm right. You actually had a decent kicker this time.

And your D is actually quite good.

Griffith was told that if he didn't kick perfect today he'd be shipped back off to Poland.

[Luminesa]

You know what? Usually I'm right. You actually had a decent kicker this time.

And your D is actually quite good.

Griffith was told that if he didn't kick perfect today he'd be shipped back off to Poland.

Well...whatever motivates him to go to work in the morning.

[The united states of Saints]

You know what? Usually I'm right. You actually had a decent kicker this time.

And your D is actually quite good.

Griffith was told that if he didn't kick perfect today he'd be shipped back off to Poland.

Typical Nick Saban motivation speech

[Bythyrona]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k1vO8aCCDY

Pretty much Tennessee's season thus far in a nutshell.

[Arkinesia]

They'll never win a title with Richt. Also, it's funny you'd cite his record 13 wins…the 12-game season wasn't even introduced until 2002, which incidentally is the second year of Richt's tenure. So the only way a coach could have gotten to 13 beforehand was to win every single game after the SEC Championship Game was introduced in 1994. That's a very tiny window of alternative possibilities, and so I'd say using that as a fence to say “Richt is secretly an awesome coach!!” is more than a bit silly.

Don't forget how he got his loss that year. He lost to an Alabama team with an utterly boneheaded coaching decision in the final seconds of the game. Literally who the fuck calls slants when you have no timeouts and the clock is running out? Mark Richt. That's who.

I like to tell Georgia fans to look at all the ten-win seasons in Richt's tenure, and then I tell them “now, if you had a competent coach, like a Gary Patterson, a Bill Snyder, or someone who actually knew how to take advantage of his talent, every one of those ten-plus win seasons would be either near-title appearances or title appearances.”

Bear in mind this is the guy who had Knowshon Moreno, Matthew Stafford, and Mohamed Massaquoi on the same team in 2008 and he couldn't even split Florida and Georgia Tech. He lost to Florida in a blowout and lost to Tech in a freakin' home game.

You're gonna tell me that in spite of the fact that he can't win with constant five-star classes, he can't win in years with overwhelming amounts of current on-field talent, he can't win no matter how many future NFL stars he plays, that he's still a good coach? Come on! Any idiot could win 6-8 games every year, maybe even 9 with some dumb luck. What Richt has done at Georgia is wholly unimpressive to anyone who seriously follows major college football.

I didn't say it, I quoted it from Phil Steele. What the fuck does the length of the season have to do with going 13-1? That was the best Georgia season the Dawgs had since Dooley; did you also conveniently forget Georgia's other numerous top ten finishes under Richt? You're factually wrong about the loss in 2002, by the way - the single loss Georgia had in 2002 was in the rivalry game to Florida, 20-13. The loss in 2012 was to the best team in the nation - Richt's Dawgs put up more of a fight against the Tide in the SEC Championship Game than anyone that season (save for a Manziel-led Aggies team) had done.

If Snyder and Patterson REALLY knew how to take advantage of their talent, they'd have a won a national title in all their years of coaching, because any bonehead can make putrid programs into winners. It's so easy in fact that they should have hired me instead to do it. It's so easy, man - who gives a fuck about close finishes and successful seasons? Anyone who follows college football seriously knows that Kansas State and TCU will never win a title under either coach. Now, if they had Nick Saban or Urban Meyer...

No, really, it isn't - you sound like every ungrateful Georgia, Oklahoma, and Nebraska fan that hates the coach that has built the program into a consistent winner. Richt is a victim of his own success, and it's absolutely fucking hilarious how people like you can sit there and consider multiple double-digit win seasons a barometer of failure. That fact that you suggest that's it's "so easy" to win 6-8 games in the SEC shows your "serious" understanding of the game.

jokes on u im a florida fan

And yeah, keeping Mark Richt would be awesome, imo. Because it means I can count on my Gators to consistently win that game about 2/3 of the time unless we have a total dipshit for a coach. Even Ron Zook, as big an idiot as he was, went 2-1 against Richt. With less talented teams in many cases.

Also, I've argued for years that if Snyder coached a team placed in a more talent-rich area, he'd have several national championships. His squad is known for being a perennial landing spot for third-rate athletes. It takes a great coach with at least good players to win titles, and most of the time, Snyder doesn't have good players. He just is one of those coaches who can wring every drop out of them.

Besides, when Gary Patterson wins a title coaching the Dawgs, I'll be sure to drop you a line and ask you about how awful Patterson is as a coach.

PS: Some housekeeping, I forgot about the USC loss Georgia suffered in 2012. That's my mistake. I can't believe I missed that, as it's yet another example of Richt's inability to pull out a victory when he needs to!

[Bythyrona]

It's funny cos you don't realize that I'm mocking your terrible opinions regarding Richt and you actually think I believe Patterson and Snyder are terrible coaches.

[Luminesa]

What exactly happened to cause that Miss State player to go down like that? That was horrifying!

[Outer Sparta]

Michigan won yet again against Indiana in 2OT. Air Rudock was amazing and hooked up with Chesson and passed for 440 yards and six TDs. We did have trouble on the ground as Jordan Thomas got 200+ yards and got 6.8 yards per carry on 35 carries. Whilst Michigan had trouble against the run, Indiana had problems against the pass. Sudfeld tried to throw on fourth down in double OT, but went incomplete.

[Bythyrona]

Nearly a nightmare for Oklahoma State. Tennessee can't even blow out an opponent correctly.

lol tcu

lol houston deserved to be #16 huh poll voters

how the fuck is arkansas such a buzzsaw against LSU

and come the fuck on temple and stanford

[Luminesa]

Nearly a nightmare for Oklahoma State. Tennessee can't even blow out an opponent correctly.

lol tcu

lol houston deserved to be #16 huh poll voters

how the fuck is arkansas such a buzzsaw against LSU

and come the fuck on temple and stanford

I think LSU is giving up, after the one game that mattered for them this season.
The LSU-Bama game seriously needs to be the season-ender.
Like Ohio State-Michigan. That way we wouldn't have this problem of
going through the malaise of losing to our biggest rival, for several weeks after.

[Arkinesia]

Nearly a nightmare for Oklahoma State.

Walt Deptula over here predicted that would be a close one. Ames is a surprisingly difficult place to play.