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by The balkens » Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:34 pm
by Kubra » Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:35 pm
holocaust education is on nearly all school curriculums in the western world. What reason is there for additionally mandated lessons?The balkens wrote:Brainwashing? nope.
Just a simple test to see who cheers when they watch Schindler's list.
Kidding, but holocaust education should be mandatory for migrants from certain cultures or countries.
by The balkens » Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:37 pm
Kubra wrote:holocaust education is on nearly all school curriculums in the western world. What reason is there for additionally mandated lessons?The balkens wrote:Brainwashing? nope.
Just a simple test to see who cheers when they watch Schindler's list.
Kidding, but holocaust education should be mandatory for migrants from certain cultures or countries.
by G-Tech Corporation » Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:38 pm
by Kubra » Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:39 pm
and in what way will existing curriculums not address the issue?
by Mensirada Nysgceballada Ghebanea » Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:40 pm
by G-Tech Corporation » Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:41 pm
by The balkens » Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:42 pm
by Kubra » Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:43 pm
They don't? I remember in high school the topic being pretty graphic. Only AP kids ever learned shit with an objective lense. But I suppose those kids knew better than us, they really did. What more do you want, public declarations of repentance and self-flagellation?
by United Dixieland Territories » Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:44 pm
by The balkens » Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:44 pm
Kubra wrote:They don't? I remember in high school the topic being pretty graphic. Only AP kids ever learned shit with an objective lense. But I suppose those kids knew better than us, they really did. What more do you want, public declarations of repentance and self-flagellation?Mensirada Nysgceballada Ghebanea wrote:They don't bring out emotional responses openly enough?
by Mensirada Nysgceballada Ghebanea » Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:45 pm
G-Tech Corporation wrote:Kubra wrote: and in what way will existing curriculums not address the issue?
Existing curricula operate under the assumption that one has a certain degree of cultural exposure and pre-existing knowledge of the event, as indeed most children raised in the Western world do. Such courses would probably benefit from a redesign to deal with the different cultural schema that immigrants bring from their countries of origin.
Kubra wrote:They don't? I remember in high school the topic being pretty graphic. Only AP kids ever learned shit with an objective lense. But I suppose those kids knew better than us, they really did. What more do you want, public declarations of repentance and self-flagellation?Mensirada Nysgceballada Ghebanea wrote:They don't bring out emotional responses openly enough?
by Kubra » Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:48 pm
idk advocating people have at themselves with iron whips is pretty fucked up in itself.The balkens wrote:Kubra wrote: They don't? I remember in high school the topic being pretty graphic. Only AP kids ever learned shit with an objective lense. But I suppose those kids knew better than us, they really did. What more do you want, public declarations of repentance and self-flagellation?
if it drives home the point that Antisemitism is wrong, then sure.
Aight, that's fair enough.G-Tech Corporation wrote:Kubra wrote: and in what way will existing curriculums not address the issue?
Existing curricula operate under the assumption that one has a certain degree of cultural exposure and pre-existing knowledge of the event, as indeed most children raised in the Western world do. Such courses would probably benefit from a redesign to deal with the different cultural schema that immigrants bring from their countries of origin.
by Alvecia » Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:57 am
Balkan Crusader wrote:Muslims mocking Christian graves in Finland. There you have it, just spend welfare on them.
by Kvatchdom » Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:00 am
Balkan Crusader wrote:Muslims mocking Christian graves in Finland. There you have it, just spend welfare on them.
by Socialist Czechia » Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:09 am
Alvecia wrote:Balkan Crusader wrote:Muslims mocking Christian graves in Finland. There you have it, just spend welfare on them.
You realise for every article of Muslims doing something bad, I could just as easily counter with articles of Christians doing bad. It doesn't really prove anything.
"Those who reached my boundary, their seed is not; their hearts and their souls are finished forever and ever. As for those who had assembled before them on the sea, the full flame was their front before the harbour mouths, and a wall of metal upon the shore surrounded them. They were dragged, overturned, and laid low upon the beach; slain and made heaps from stern to bow of their galleys, while all their things were cast upon the water." - Ramesses III., Battle of the Delta
by Alvecia » Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:17 am
Socialist Czechia wrote:Alvecia wrote:You realise for every article of Muslims doing something bad, I could just as easily counter with articles of Christians doing bad. It doesn't really prove anything.
If someone refuses to recognize the fact that muslim immigrants, even second generation of them, commits generally many more crimes than native population, he/she's in deep denial, very at least.
But I guess it's common in Europe these days.
When I see gender equality protesters, who whines and moans about woman wages or general rights, but ignores these sad female muslim persons in black clothes, I find it as very disturbing doublethink.
by Kvatchdom » Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:46 am
Socialist Czechia wrote:Alvecia wrote:You realise for every article of Muslims doing something bad, I could just as easily counter with articles of Christians doing bad. It doesn't really prove anything.
If someone refuses to recognize the fact that muslim immigrants, even second generation of them, commits generally many more crimes than native population, he/she's in deep denial, very at least.
But I guess it's common in Europe these days.
When I see gender equality protesters, who whines and moans about woman wages or general rights, but ignores these sad female muslim persons in black clothes, I find it as very disturbing doublethink.
by Kvatchdom » Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:50 am
by Kvatchdom » Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:55 am
by Socialist Czechia » Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:56 am
Alvecia wrote:Socialist Czechia wrote:
If someone refuses to recognize the fact that muslim immigrants, even second generation of them, commits generally many more crimes than native population, he/she's in deep denial, very at least.
But I guess it's common in Europe these days.
When I see gender equality protesters, who whines and moans about woman wages or general rights, but ignores these sad female muslim persons in black clothes, I find it as very disturbing doublethink.
I can't recall if I've actually seen statistical evidence that supports that, but since you are so sure I'm certain you'll have some that you would be more than willing to provide.
“With crime rates half of that of Danes, one can not exactly blame Chinese, Indians and Filipinos to fill up the Danish prisons. In contrast, crime is alarmingly high among other immigrant groups. And it does not seem to fall. On the contrary, the same groups are in the top of the crime index year after year. …
Statistics Denmark has adjusted the crime index according to the so-called socio-economic factors. There is also adjusted for age, because there will normally be a more crime in populations with many young people. The figures are therefore directly comparable. …
On average Lebanese commit almost three times as many crimes as Vietnamese. Both groups contain refugees. …
"Those who reached my boundary, their seed is not; their hearts and their souls are finished forever and ever. As for those who had assembled before them on the sea, the full flame was their front before the harbour mouths, and a wall of metal upon the shore surrounded them. They were dragged, overturned, and laid low upon the beach; slain and made heaps from stern to bow of their galleys, while all their things were cast upon the water." - Ramesses III., Battle of the Delta
by Kvatchdom » Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:03 am
Socialist Czechia wrote:Alvecia wrote:I can't recall if I've actually seen statistical evidence that supports that, but since you are so sure I'm certain you'll have some that you would be more than willing to provide.
There are numbers, if you try to find them. Problem is, that you can manipulate with statistics too, in many ways: for example, in Sweden, where is de facto incredibly high number of rapes committed by muslim immigrants, these are not always counted as a 'rapes', but 'assaults' or these are not reported out of fear or social pressure.
Danish Statistics: “Among the nine ethnic groups with the highest crime rate eight are Muslim”“With crime rates half of that of Danes, one can not exactly blame Chinese, Indians and Filipinos to fill up the Danish prisons. In contrast, crime is alarmingly high among other immigrant groups. And it does not seem to fall. On the contrary, the same groups are in the top of the crime index year after year. …
Statistics Denmark has adjusted the crime index according to the so-called socio-economic factors. There is also adjusted for age, because there will normally be a more crime in populations with many young people. The figures are therefore directly comparable. …
On average Lebanese commit almost three times as many crimes as Vietnamese. Both groups contain refugees. …
by Gravlen » Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:11 am
Socialist Czechia wrote:Alvecia wrote:I can't recall if I've actually seen statistical evidence that supports that, but since you are so sure I'm certain you'll have some that you would be more than willing to provide.
There are numbers, if you try to find them. Problem is, that you can manipulate with statistics too, in many ways: for example, in Sweden, where is de facto incredibly high number of rapes committed by muslim immigrants, these are not always counted as a 'rapes', but 'assaults' or these are not reported out of fear or social pressure.
by Socialist Czechia » Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:15 am
Kvatchdom wrote:This whole site reeks of bias. We had a Finnish news site, MV-lehti, post same kinds of statistics only to be called out by the General of Police for falsifying information, not to mention the owner of said site is a Russian criminal.
"Those who reached my boundary, their seed is not; their hearts and their souls are finished forever and ever. As for those who had assembled before them on the sea, the full flame was their front before the harbour mouths, and a wall of metal upon the shore surrounded them. They were dragged, overturned, and laid low upon the beach; slain and made heaps from stern to bow of their galleys, while all their things were cast upon the water." - Ramesses III., Battle of the Delta
by Kvatchdom » Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:18 am
Socialist Czechia wrote:Kvatchdom wrote:This whole site reeks of bias. We had a Finnish news site, MV-lehti, post same kinds of statistics only to be called out by the General of Police for falsifying information, not to mention the owner of said site is a Russian criminal.
You know, people often yells to my face: Prove it! Give me resource!
However, when I give them what they want, they find always some reason why it's not legit.
But which resource is legitimate? Government? So called 'independent' medias?
Deutsche Welle: "In Berlin, young male immigrants are three times more likely to commit violent crimes than their German peers."
And who ever said that nationalists, conservatives or fascists always posting lies, while so called liberals always posting truth?
After all, best lies are partial truths. And, unfortunately, fascists doesn't have to lie so much, really.
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