European Migrant Crisis Megathread

[Geilinor]

Or...she can address all cases of homophobia at once. Which she did. Calling out all homophobes isn't a trick. It's honest.

Or do you just hate Muslims and want to give other faiths a special pass?

Well she did not adress all cases of homophobia since she would not have problem to adress this particular one incident.

Muslims are not some super race and you SJWs should stop giving them to much concessions.

She did address all cases of homophobia with one post. Nobody is giving them concessions.

[Wallenburg]

Or...she can address all cases of homophobia at once. Which she did. Calling out all homophobes isn't a trick. It's honest.

Or do you just hate Muslims and want to give other faiths a special pass?

Well she did not adress all cases of homophobia since she would not have problem to adress this particular one incident.

Muslims are not some super race and you SJWs should stop giving them to much concessions.

You called me an SJW.



Yeah, I think you're an Islamophobe. You wouldn't be giving people this much shit for decrying all homophobia if you weren't.

[Talvezout]

Or...she can address all cases of homophobia at once. Which she did. Calling out all homophobes isn't a trick. It's honest.

Or do you just hate Muslims and want to give other faiths a special pass?

Well she did not adress all cases of homophobia since she would not have problem to adress this particular one incident.

Muslims are not some super race and you SJWs should stop giving them to much concessions.

HOMOPHOBIA IS BAD NO MATTER WHERE IT COMES FROM, AS I HAVE STATED REPEATEDLY.

Satisfied?

You're free to have you own opinion, you really are, but at least don't go around saying that Vas thinks that Muslims are some super-race or that she hasn't condemned homophobia from all people or something.

[Vassenor]

Or...she can address all cases of homophobia at once. Which she did. Calling out all homophobes isn't a trick. It's honest.

Or do you just hate Muslims and want to give other faiths a special pass?

Well she did not adress all cases of homophobia since she would not have problem to adress this particular one incident.

Muslims are not some super race and you SJWs should stop giving them to much concessions.

Never said they were. Homophobia is always bad and always shall be bad. As is xenophobia and the rest of the anti-cultural, anti-national, and anti-ethnic -phobias.

[Vassenor]

You called me an SJW.



Yeah, I think you're an Islamophobe. You wouldn't be giving people this much shit for decrying all homophobia if you weren't.

Yes, I hate Islam as a religion. It colonise the Balkans and mistreated my ancestors. So, I am furious.

The same way you SJW hate Christianity, it is not a big deal.

We hate Christianity?

[Talvezout]

Welp, time to go tell my Amerindian friends that deserved to be mistreated by the Europeans.

Because they deserved it, obviously.

We did not, it was the Yanks living there. But yes we Europeans are the best on the world. We desirve to be arogant.

Apparently, enslaving people around the world, causing two world wars, and putting many people under the brutal effects of colonialism means you're the best.

Now, before you accuse me of racism, I acknowledge that every nation, every group of people have committed bad things. Because, unsurprisingly, there's no good race or bad race; more like the world is a big grey puddle.

Alas, I'm leaving this thread before things get worse, in addition so that I don't start underage drinking.

[Kelinfort]

The people who lived here before your kind came.

You had no any souveregnity before Europeans. In fact, you Yanks should be thankfully to Europe for exporting you civilisation to your country and teaching you literacy and democracy. It would be all better if the USA was still in the possesion of Europe since you would not stupid stuff to the rest of the world.

This is exactly what I expected the sore loser to say. The Muslims also recognize you're a joke.

[Wallenburg]

You called me an SJW.



Yeah, I think you're an Islamophobe. You wouldn't be giving people this much shit for decrying all homophobia if you weren't.

Yes, I hate Islam as a religion. It colonise the Balkans and mistreated my ancestors. So, I am furious.

The same way you SJW hate Christianity, it is not a big deal.

I'm not an SJW, and I don't hate Christianity. I think Christianity is ridiculous, but I don't hate it.

[Ghatawerpya]

You called me an SJW.



Yeah, I think you're an Islamophobe. You wouldn't be giving people this much shit for decrying all homophobia if you weren't.

Yes, I hate Islam as a religion. It colonise the Balkans and mistreated my ancestors. So, I am furious.

The same way you SJW hate Christianity, it is not a big deal.

You don't think you should be a little humble about that? Considering what happened 20 years ago?

[Ghatawerpya]

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[Immoren]

Yes, I hate Islam as a religion. It colonise the Balkans and mistreated my ancestors. So, I am furious.

The same way you SJW hate Christianity, it is not a big deal.

We hate Christianity?

[insert anti-christianity metal track here]

[Kelinfort]

This is exactly what I expected the sore loser to say. The Muslims also recognize you're a joke.

For the second sentence you are unfortunately right. But, it is because of the digusting liberalism and Euroantalnticism. We should have toward the muslim an Australian approach.

And for the first part, please ignore me and go to McDonalds or watch Kardashians; whatever "intelectual work" Yanks do in spare time.

You mean to tell me crock like this Freud guy cooked up and people like Marx are superior? Please.

[Wallenburg]

This is exactly what I expected the sore loser to say. The Muslims also recognize you're a joke.

For the second sentence you are unfortunately right. But, it is because of the digusting liberalism and Euroantalnticism. We should have toward the muslim an Australian approach.

And for the first part, please ignore me and go to McDonalds or watch Kardashians; whatever "intelectual work" Yanks do in spare time.

You want some American intellectuals? I'll show you a few.
http://www.cbs.com/shows/the-late-show- ... n-colbert/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Stewart
https://chomsky.info/
http://www.princeton.edu/nes/people/dis ... tid=blewis

I can name more.

[Unitaristic Regions]

You called me an SJW.



Yeah, I think you're an Islamophobe. You wouldn't be giving people this much shit for decrying all homophobia if you weren't.

Yes, I hate Islam as a religion. It colonise the Balkans and mistreated my ancestors. So, I am furious.

The same way you SJW hate Christianity, it is not a big deal.

Oh boy. You are aware that your ancestors themselves colonized the Balkans and that historical Christians were experts at getting kings to forcibly convert their subjects? Ah, double standards. Things of beauty.

[Wallenburg]

Yes, I hate Islam as a religion. It colonise the Balkans and mistreated my ancestors. So, I am furious.

The same way you SJW hate Christianity, it is not a big deal.

Oh boy. You are aware that your ancestors themselves colonized the Balkans and that historical Christians were experts at getting kings to forcibly convert their subjects? Ah, double standards. Things of beauty.

Just remember, it's okay if Christians do it.

[Unitaristic Regions]

Oh boy. You are aware that your ancestors themselves colonized the Balkans and that historical Christians were experts at getting kings to forcibly convert their subjects? Ah, double standards. Things of beauty.

No, they have not. They are here for the at least last few thousand years. And Christianity is here accepted voluntarily so there is no any double standards except in your anti-inelectual thinking.

*Says I'm anti-intellectual.
*Can't spell intellectual.

The Slavs migrated to your homeland and massacred and/or assimilated the original population. And I was talking about Christianity in general, since you referred to Islam in general.

[Vassenor]

The Slavs migrated to your homeland and massacred and/or assimilated the original population. And I was talking about Christianity in general, since you referred to Islam in general.

They did not went there in a genocide spree. They intermixed with the native Illyrian population and in fact assimilated to them by accepting Christianity. It was not otherwise.

I was refering primarly to the forms in which Islam tried to penetrated to Europe and that was violent. The Ottomans were the one who tried convert as many to Islam in a violent way and even enslaved the native population, killing much natives.

And yes, Islam spreaded generally on such way. In India for instance they killed 400 million of Hindus. Christianity on ther hand had spreading in most times voluntarily. It is a great difference with Islam.

#DeusVult

Apparently the times during the Crusades when Christians basically massacred their way round the middle east didn't happen then.

[Vassenor]

To put it another way, once you actually start reading through history you will be hard pressed to find a religion or creed that hasn't had some group or another do reprehensible things in its name. It is not a problem unique to Islam.

[Unitaristic Regions]

The Slavs migrated to your homeland and massacred and/or assimilated the original population. And I was talking about Christianity in general, since you referred to Islam in general.

They did not went there in a genocide spree. They intermixed with the native Illyrian population and in fact assimilated to them by accepting Christianity. It was not otherwise.

I was refering primarly to the forms in which Islam tried to penetrated to Europe and that was violent. The Ottomans were the one who tried convert as many to Islam in a violent way and even enslaved the native population, killing much natives.

And yes, Islam spreaded generally on such way. In India for instance they killed 400 million of Hindus. Christianity on ther hand had spreading in most times voluntarily. It is a great difference with Islam.

The entire American continent was Christianized by conquest. Russia and Prussia were christianized by conquest. Spain was reconquered on the Muslims and then Christianized. The Spaniards always used their superior faith as an argument to decimate indigenous populations. Russia loved using her status of 'protector of Orthodox christians' to expand the state.

I'll forgive you for misrepresenting me. I already admitted that the Slavs either assimilated or massacred the original population. What is that a process of? Colonization. Don't skewer the argument: I was saying that you were holding a double standard by hating Islam for colonizing Slavic provinces, which the Slavs themselves colonized years and years before.


And, of course, the Ottomans weren't about violent conversion. That's just something you're shouting. The only violent mass conversion they indulged in was that of the Devshirme, otherwise they tried persuasion:

In the past, Christian missionaries sometimes worked hand-in-hand with colonialism, for example during the European colonization of the Americas, Africa and Asia. There is no record of a Muslim organization corresponding to the Christian mission system under the Ottoman Empire. According to Thomas Walker Arnold, Islam was not spread by force in the areas under the control of the Ottoman Sultan.[10] Rather, Arnold concludes by quoting a 17th-century author:

Meanwhile he (the Turk) wins (converts) by craft more than by force, and snatches away Christ by fraud out of the hearts of men. For the Turk, it is true, at the present time compels no country by violence to apostatise; but he uses other means whereby imperceptibly he roots out Christianity...[10]

But on the subject of India you do seem to be right: https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/20 ... n-history/.

I agree that Islam has had a brutally violent history. But so has Christianity. Consider the Reformation, the Albigensian crusades, the normal crusades, the colonization legitimized by faith. I'm not attacking your faith, or your people. I'm merely saying that, whatever the history of a given thing, nothing is unchangeable. Ideas are subject to change throughout time. What the history of a thing is, doesn't really matter: it's more about the question whether it has an acceptable future.

[Unitaristic Regions]

They did not went there in a genocide spree. They intermixed with the native Illyrian population and in fact assimilated to them by accepting Christianity. It was not otherwise.

I was refering primarly to the forms in which Islam tried to penetrated to Europe and that was violent. The Ottomans were the one who tried convert as many to Islam in a violent way and even enslaved the native population, killing much natives.

And yes, Islam spreaded generally on such way. In India for instance they killed 400 million of Hindus. Christianity on ther hand had spreading in most times voluntarily. It is a great difference with Islam.

#DeusVult

Apparently the times during the Crusades when Christians basically massacred their way round the middle east didn't happen then.

Spain's genocide of the Americas is probably a better example . The Crusades are a speck on history.

[Vassenor]

#DeusVult

Apparently the times during the Crusades when Christians basically massacred their way round the middle east didn't happen then.

Spain's genocide of the Americas is probably a better example . The Crusades are a speck on history.

Yeah, hence the clarification I made in the post under it.

[Kauthar]

To put it another way, once you actually start reading through history you will be hard pressed to find a religion or creed that hasn't had some group or another do reprehensible things in its name. It is not a problem unique to Islam.

you're right, it's not a problem unique to Islam.
It's just a lot more prevalent and no religion has commit acts of evil to the sheer scale as Islam has.

[Vassenor]

To put it another way, once you actually start reading through history you will be hard pressed to find a religion or creed that hasn't had some group or another do reprehensible things in its name. It is not a problem unique to Islam.

you're right, it's not a problem unique to Islam.
It's just a lot more prevalent and no religion has commit acts of evil to the sheer scale as Islam has.

See the just mentioned acts of forced conversion and genocide committed in the name of Christianity in the Americas.

[Unitaristic Regions]

you're right, it's not a problem unique to Islam.
It's just a lot more prevalent and no religion has commit acts of evil to the sheer scale as Islam has.

See the just mentioned acts of forced conversion and genocide committed in the name of Christianity in the Americas.

Tbh, I think the Spaniards were mostly using it to satisfy their own greed, but so were the Ottomans and the Mughals, if you ask me.

[Vassenor]

See the just mentioned acts of forced conversion and genocide committed in the name of Christianity in the Americas.

Tbh, I think the Spaniards were mostly using it to satisfy their own greed, but so were the Ottomans and the Mughals, if you ask me.

So religion as justification rather than motivation?