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Postby Vassenor » Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:54 am

Kauthar wrote:
Geilinor wrote:You say that you want to defend Europe from "degeneracy". Does that include homosexuality?

Yes and No. It shouldn't be promoted, there shouldn't be medical services offered for free to homosexuals who contract AIDS through sex, and they shouldn't be allowed to partake in same-sex marriage, but at the same time killing people for their sexual orientation just makes us look like barbarians. It's their choice and the lord gave us free will for a reason.


God also said that only he has the right to judge a person for how they live their life though.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:59 am

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Geilinor wrote:You say that you want to defend Europe from "degeneracy". Does that include homosexuality?

Yes and No. It shouldn't be promoted, there shouldn't be medical services offered for free to homosexuals who contract AIDS through sex, and they shouldn't be allowed to partake in same-sex marriage, but at the same time killing people for their sexual orientation just makes us look like barbarians. It's their choice and the lord gave us free will for a reason.


Both marriage and medical care are state affairs. Trying to impose your religious values on this is a sin in your own religion - so don't.
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Postby The Kievan People » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:02 pm

Geilinor wrote:People who support gun control don't selectively report crimes committed by non-white people or immigrants.


The press has if anything been selectively under-reporting crimes by migrants.
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Postby Kauthar » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:03 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Kauthar wrote:Yes and No. It shouldn't be promoted, there shouldn't be medical services offered for free to homosexuals who contract AIDS through sex, and they shouldn't be allowed to partake in same-sex marriage, but at the same time killing people for their sexual orientation just makes us look like barbarians. It's their choice and the lord gave us free will for a reason.


God also said that only he has the right to judge a person for how they live their life though.

I'm not judging them lol. I'm just not being a cuck and submitting myself to progressive degeneracy and worshiping sodomy.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:04 pm

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Vassenor wrote:
God also said that only he has the right to judge a person for how they live their life though.

I'm not judging them lol. I'm just not being a cuck and submitting myself to progressive degeneracy and worshiping sodomy.

You're saying their love is somehow less worthy than your own... That's almost the definition of judgement.
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Postby Geilinor » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:05 pm

Kauthar wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
God also said that only he has the right to judge a person for how they live their life though.

I'm not judging them lol. I'm just not being a cuck and submitting myself to progressive degeneracy and worshiping sodomy.

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Postby Vassenor » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:05 pm

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Vassenor wrote:
God also said that only he has the right to judge a person for how they live their life though.

I'm not judging them lol. I'm just not being a cuck and submitting myself to progressive degeneracy and worshiping sodomy.


Because denying someone basic human rights because you don't like something about their life isn't judging them. Clearly.
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Postby Kauthar » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:07 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Kauthar wrote:I'm not judging them lol. I'm just not being a cuck and submitting myself to progressive degeneracy and worshiping sodomy.


Because denying someone basic human rights because you don't like something about their life isn't judging them. Clearly.

I'm not denying them basic human rights. Marriage is a privilege not a right. And if they go against the bible why should they be allowed to marry.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:08 pm

Kauthar wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Because denying someone basic human rights because you don't like something about their life isn't judging them. Clearly.

I'm not denying them basic human rights. Marriage is a privilege not a right. And if they go against the bible why should they be allowed to marry.


Wrong, marriage is a human right according to the UDHR.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:08 pm

Kauthar wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Because denying someone basic human rights because you don't like something about their life isn't judging them. Clearly.

I'm not denying them basic human rights. Marriage is a privilege not a right. And if they go against the bible why should they be allowed to marry.


Marriage is a matter for the state to decide. Not Religion.
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Postby Kauthar » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:10 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Kauthar wrote:I'm not denying them basic human rights. Marriage is a privilege not a right. And if they go against the bible why should they be allowed to marry.


Marriage is a matter for the state to decide. Not Religion.

No it isn't. Marriage is a matter of the Church.

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Kauthar wrote:I'm not denying them basic human rights. Marriage is a privilege not a right. And if they go against the bible why should they be allowed to marry.


Wrong, marriage is a human right according to the UDHR.


I don't care what the UDHR thinks. They'd immediately recant that the day they wake up in the fires of Hell.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:11 pm

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Marriage is a matter for the state to decide. Not Religion.

No it isn't. Marriage is a matter of the Church.


So Atheists and non-Christians cannot marry?
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Postby Kauthar » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:11 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Kauthar wrote:No it isn't. Marriage is a matter of the Church.


So Atheists and non-Christians cannot marry?

they shouldn't be allowed to.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:11 pm

Kauthar wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Because denying someone basic human rights because you don't like something about their life isn't judging them. Clearly.

I'm not denying them basic human rights. Marriage is a privilege not a right. And if they go against the bible why should they be allowed to marry.


Because marriage is a civil contract which has nothing to do with the Bible ? If you *personally* opt to add religious significance to it that is of course your right - but it is not needed.
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Postby Geilinor » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:12 pm

Kauthar wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So Atheists and non-Christians cannot marry?

they shouldn't be allowed to.

Wat.

Did Christians invent marriage?
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:12 pm

OK, you know what, this is a threadjack. Let's take this to its own thread.
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Postby Kauthar » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:13 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Kauthar wrote:they shouldn't be allowed to.

Wat.

Did Christians invent marriage?

No they just defined it and made it moral unlike the previous institutions of "marriage" that heathens invented
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:17 pm

So yeah. When are you going to give up pork and shellfish?
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Postby Kauthar » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:21 pm

Vassenor wrote:So yeah. When are you going to give up pork and shellfish?

Leviticus. Laws of the old testament were made null when Jesus died on the cross.
Plus, I don't even eat red meats except from Steak and I don't like shellfish so I have already gave both of them up. Nice try though with your generic and shitty argument. I'll pretend I haven't heard it 1000 times before.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:23 pm

Kauthar wrote:
Vassenor wrote:So yeah. When are you going to give up pork and shellfish?

Leviticus. Laws of the old testament were made null when Jesus died on the cross.
Plus, I don't even eat red meats except from Steak and I don't like shellfish so I have already gave both of them up. Nice try though with your generic and shitty argument. I'll pretend I haven't heard it 1000 times before.


And Leviticus is the only bit that goes on about Homosexuality being a sin. So by your own arguments your pronouncement of homosexuality being immoral is incorrect.
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Postby Sanctissima » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:24 pm

Kauthar wrote:
Vassenor wrote:So yeah. When are you going to give up pork and shellfish?

Leviticus. Laws of the old testament were made null when Jesus died on the cross.
Plus, I don't even eat red meats except from Steak and I don't like shellfish so I have already gave both of them up. Nice try though with your generic and shitty argument. I'll pretend I haven't heard it 1000 times before.


So, essentially, you're saying that half of the Bible is wrong?

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Postby Kauthar » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:27 pm

Sanctissima wrote:
Kauthar wrote:Leviticus. Laws of the old testament were made null when Jesus died on the cross.
Plus, I don't even eat red meats except from Steak and I don't like shellfish so I have already gave both of them up. Nice try though with your generic and shitty argument. I'll pretend I haven't heard it 1000 times before.


So, essentially, you're saying that half of the Bible is wrong?

leviticus barely any of the bible. And I'm not saying it's wrong, the laws in it just made null.

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Kauthar wrote:Leviticus. Laws of the old testament were made null when Jesus died on the cross.
Plus, I don't even eat red meats except from Steak and I don't like shellfish so I have already gave both of them up. Nice try though with your generic and shitty argument. I'll pretend I haven't heard it 1000 times before.


And Leviticus is the only bit that goes on about Homosexuality being a sin. So by your own arguments your pronouncement of homosexuality being immoral is incorrect.

No it isn't. It's mentioned four times, two in Leviticus, once in Romans and once in Corinthians. Seems like you're not very educated when it comes to this, might not want to try and debate something you know jackshit about.
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Postby Scandinavian Nations » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:55 pm

Sanctissima wrote:So, essentially, you're saying that half of the Bible is wrong?

Half of the Bible is included as a historical reference. Remember how in science class you sometimes were taught an obsolete concept first, then told it was proven wrong by someone later?

It's not "wrong", as in Christianity holds it to be a broadly genuine record of the events and laws of the pre-Christian era. The New Testament then records later events, in which the law established in the Old one is deprecated and replaced with new rules.
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Postby Stellonia » Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:00 pm

Umm... What does this have to do with the thread?

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Postby Vassenor » Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:03 pm

Stellonia wrote:Umm... What does this have to do with the thread?


Something about migrants making Europe quote-unquote "immoral" just by existing.
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