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Postby Liriena » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:02 am

Well, at least they didn't say "anti-racist is code for anti-white". That's got to be an improvement over NSG's ordinary summertime xenophobia.
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Nuevo Meshiko
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Postby Nuevo Meshiko » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:03 am

This thread is gold lol. I'm seriously going to follow it just for teh lulz.
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Iwassoclose
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Postby Iwassoclose » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:03 am

Smarter than you hispanic wrote:I find anti-immigrant rhetoric offensive, seriously guys stop blaming other people for willing to accept low pay.


i dont think thats the main problem in Europe.

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Nuevo Meshiko
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Postby Nuevo Meshiko » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:04 am

Iwassoclose wrote:
Smarter than you hispanic wrote:I find anti-immigrant rhetoric offensive, seriously guys stop blaming other people for willing to accept low pay.


i dont think thats the main problem in Europe.

The main problem in Europe is thinly-veiled fascism, exemplified here by the OP.
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Rothuria wrote:Too Socialist.

Northern Arcadian Empire wrote:Spanish is very rusty but, "God we thank" they thank God for everything?

Floydian Britannia wrote:The Caliphate of Cordoba

Xaolan wrote:Some sort of a Latin empire?

Yalos wrote:Rich

Inolena wrote:Muslim Mexicans with a love for freedom and good food

Inolena wrote:A sensual Latin lover. With a cellphone. Listening to prayers and some Sufi music.
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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:04 am

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Dejanic
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Postby Dejanic » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:05 am

Europe is more dominated by the centre-right at the moment than ever before, Leftists aren't destroying anything.
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Narintia
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Postby Narintia » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:05 am

Also it is bad to be gay... because reasons. I think your a member of These neo-nazis
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Postby New DeCapito » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:05 am

I have seen it with my very own eyes. The so called "refugees", they are not thankfull for the free shelter, free food, free medical care, and even free internet, I have seen loaves of bread and fruits thrown on the ground and left there as if they were worthless pieces of trash (noting that a civilised person would not leave trash on the ground either). It was food that liberals, SJWs, overly naive people donated to them. I have seen them laughing as the street cleaner was picking up their shit, that they did not even bother burying. I have seen that 90% of them are men in their 20's who dared to use the very few women and children who were with them as living shields as they were assulting the border of my homeland a few months ago. I have seen it, it was not a cherrypicked footage, not a manipulated record, it was a live feed that I watched for 6 hours straight. And I have seen, how the reporters of the Western media, beign the manipulative criminals they are, encircled the single woman with her children in a mass of hundreds of migrants. And I have seen the reports and headlines of the said Western media outlets the following day, showing the face of the poor, crying child as an illustration while speaking or writing about our police's "brutality".


Oooh, I love it when people tell us to 'wake up'. That's the kind of thing that makes me tell them to 'go to sleep'.
Seriously, though, you need to look up 'confirmation bias', and 'Poe's Law', and 'evidence to back up hypotheses'.

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What would you do with over a million refugees, OP?
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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:05 am

Wake up and smell the ashes? What are you the G man?

Oh and get a blog.
Liriena wrote:Well, at least they didn't say "anti-racist is code for anti-white". That's got to be an improvement over NSG's ordinary summertime xenophobia.


That it is.
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Postby Anywhere Else But Here » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:05 am

Kraylandia wrote:
Anywhere Else But Here wrote:Bleh, bloggy. Blehoggy.


Not really, it just differs from your opinions and you want it taken down. No doubt you've ran to your little moderator pals already.


No, I haven't, and no, it is bloggy. All unsubstantiated ranting and absurd predictions.

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:05 am

Yeah! Christian values are the best!

Like Hate The Sin Love The Sinner.

"For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."- Matthew 6:14-15

Giving money to the poor and paying high wages

"Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.""- Matthew 19:24

And caring for others. (like for example...refuges)

"do not merely look out for your own personal interests, but also for the interests of others."-Philippians 2:4
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Postby Xanama » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:06 am

Nuevo Meshiko wrote:
Xanama wrote:Homosexuality by hanging?
Aha aha, ahahah

Lel.

This op *Shakes head*

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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:06 am

Nice blog. Can I subscribe to your YouTube channel?
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Postby New DeCapito » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:08 am

It's fun to see an OP like this. These sorts of rants give me an opportunity to look into their true beliefs, and their true beliefs are apparently adhering only to the principles of Christianity that benefit you, and racism.
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Val Halla
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Postby Val Halla » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:09 am

the leftists are destroying Europe, despite a lot of Europe swaying over to the right? how does that work?
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Nuevo Meshiko
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Postby Nuevo Meshiko » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:09 am

Xanama wrote:
Nuevo Meshiko wrote:Lel.

This op *Shakes head*

But you know what? He may have a point. I'm all for traditional Christian marriage, as described in the Bible:

-A man and his sister.
-A man and his rape victim.
-A man, 300 wives and approximately 700 concubines.
-A man and his dead brother's wife.
-I could go on and on and on...

But a man and a man? No way. That would be immoral.
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Rothuria wrote:Too Socialist.

Northern Arcadian Empire wrote:Spanish is very rusty but, "God we thank" they thank God for everything?

Floydian Britannia wrote:The Caliphate of Cordoba

Xaolan wrote:Some sort of a Latin empire?

Yalos wrote:Rich

Inolena wrote:Muslim Mexicans with a love for freedom and good food

Inolena wrote:A sensual Latin lover. With a cellphone. Listening to prayers and some Sufi music.
This nation is generally a reflection of my real life attitudes and beliefs.

Apparently this is all you need to know about me.

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Postby Liriena » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:10 am

Val Halla wrote:the leftists are destroying Europe, despite a lot of Europe swaying over to the right? how does that work?

Cognitive dissonance is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be illogical.
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Postby Blakullar » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:12 am

The way I see the refugee crisis, it seems as though a particular group of leftists understand that there's a crisis going on, but don't want to do anything about it for fear of having their whole multicultural project be proven an impossibility. It is a simple case of wrong people not wanting to be told that they are wrong.

And as for the people decrying this as 'bloggy' and 'absurd', I'm reasonably certain that if someone else did the same sort of post style with a leftist-liberal slant, none of you would make as much as a peep.
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Postby Komarin » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:12 am

The Tungsten Horde wrote:The Roman Empire was brought down because it was too nice to refugees.

You heard it here first, folks.

Well, it was really their overuse of Lead that killed them off, but that's none of my business.

Germany is definitely going to be impacted the most from this migration due the huge amount of people they're letting in.
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Postby Afallyd » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:13 am

The entire refugee situation began within the past few months. It's immensely early to say that the bulk of incoming refugees don't accept European values and customs.

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Postby Xanama » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:13 am

Nuevo Meshiko wrote:
Xanama wrote:This op *Shakes head*

But you know what? He may have a point. I'm all for traditional Christian marriage, as described in the Bible:

-A man and his sister.
-A man and his rape victim.
-A man, 300 wives and approximately 700 concubines.
-A man and his dead brother's wife.
-I could go on and on and on...

But a man and a man? No way. That would be immoral.

I'm immoral
But I quite like the 2 women thing i have

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Val Halla
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Postby Val Halla » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:14 am

Liriena wrote:
Val Halla wrote:the leftists are destroying Europe, despite a lot of Europe swaying over to the right? how does that work?

Cognitive dissonance is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be illogical.

Like, if Europe is being ruined, while conservative parties gain power... How are people without power to blame?
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Nuevo Meshiko
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Postby Nuevo Meshiko » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:15 am

Xanama wrote:
Nuevo Meshiko wrote:But you know what? He may have a point. I'm all for traditional Christian marriage, as described in the Bible:

-A man and his sister.
-A man and his rape victim.
-A man, 300 wives and approximately 700 concubines.
-A man and his dead brother's wife.
-I could go on and on and on...

But a man and a man? No way. That would be immoral.

I'm immoral
But I quite like the 2 women thing i have


Well, get a man and 298 more women, and you're Biblically set!
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Rothuria wrote:Too Socialist.

Northern Arcadian Empire wrote:Spanish is very rusty but, "God we thank" they thank God for everything?

Floydian Britannia wrote:The Caliphate of Cordoba

Xaolan wrote:Some sort of a Latin empire?

Yalos wrote:Rich

Inolena wrote:Muslim Mexicans with a love for freedom and good food

Inolena wrote:A sensual Latin lover. With a cellphone. Listening to prayers and some Sufi music.
This nation is generally a reflection of my real life attitudes and beliefs.

Apparently this is all you need to know about me.

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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:15 am

Europe isn't being destroyed, but I'll admit that the European culture is slowly being adulterated by multiculturalism. There isn't any conspiracy agenda, nor any Eurabia, but it's not some sort of revelation to say "hey, refugees and many migrants in Europe refuse to integrate." This causes societal tensions, segregation, and isolation that only lead to dangerous problems.

We need to substantially lower the number of refugees we accept, and we must work to integrate the immigrants we do accept, as well as the immigrants in Europe that have largely "cut themselves off," so to speak.

If that's radical, then call me extremist.

OP, I can agree with some of your points, but part of your post is just warmongering and rhetoric. That said, I see your point, and I'm not going to childishly call you a racist.
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Postby New DeCapito » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:15 am

Blakullar wrote:The way I see the refugee crisis, it seems as though a particular group of leftists understand that there's a crisis going on, but don't want to do anything about it for fear of having their whole multicultural project be proven an impossibility. It is a simple case of wrong people not wanting to be told that they are wrong.

And as for the people decrying this as 'bloggy' and 'absurd', I'm reasonably certain that if someone else did the same sort of post style with a leftist-liberal slant, none of you would make as much as a peep.

If the post was done with a leftist-liberal slant, people like you would be all over it, frothing from various orifices. The post is still a blog, though. And Blakullar; if or when you read this, you will probably counter this post with an argument, not wanting to be proven wrong.
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