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Postby Deuxtete » Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:16 pm

The Conez Imperium wrote:
Deuxtete wrote:Mount Siribatchi


YES ! Such a ridiculous question one would put in a test. (Oh and congratulations for anyone else who got close, ie Iwo Jima).

I only got it right because its the only "mount" from WWII I can name off the top of my head.
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Postby Deuxtete » Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:24 pm

"There was no honor in war, less in killing, and none in dying. But there was true dignity in how men comported themselves in battle. And there was always honor to be found in standing for a just cause and defending the defenseless. Michael Scott

Shamhnan Insir wrote:We'll never see a war like it again. And I say this, in truth, with sadness.
The way we fight now sucks out any possibility for honour and true armed combat.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:26 pm

Deuxtete wrote: "There was no honor in war, less in killing, and none in dying. But there was true dignity in how men comported themselves in battle. And there was always honor to be found in standing for a just cause and defending the defenseless. Michael Scott

Shamhnan Insir wrote:We'll never see a war like it again. And I say this, in truth, with sadness.
The way we fight now sucks out any possibility for honour and true armed combat.

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Postby Deuxtete » Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:33 pm

I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidity. Dwight D. Eisenhower

That's the one I was originally looking for.
Eisenhower was intimately familiar with the "honor" of that war.
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Postby Laerod » Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:04 am

Shamhnan Insir wrote:We'll never see a war like it again. And I say this, in truth, with sadness.
The way we fight now sucks out any possibility for honour and true armed combat.

What kind of a person considers WWII as the pinnacle of "honorable combat"?

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Postby Eol Sha » Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:09 am

Laerod wrote:
Shamhnan Insir wrote:We'll never see a war like it again. And I say this, in truth, with sadness.
The way we fight now sucks out any possibility for honour and true armed combat.

What kind of a person considers WWII as the pinnacle of "honorable combat"?

The type of person who either never fought in it or gets high on violence and destruction. Or both.
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Postby Zaereas » Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:46 am

Laerod wrote:
Shamhnan Insir wrote:We'll never see a war like it again. And I say this, in truth, with sadness.
The way we fight now sucks out any possibility for honour and true armed combat.

What kind of a person considers WWII as the pinnacle of "honorable combat"?


Honourable combat died with Napoleon.
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Postby Baltenstein » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:49 am

Zaereas wrote:
Laerod wrote:What kind of a person considers WWII as the pinnacle of "honorable combat"?


Honourable combat died with Napoleon.


Even back then, war was mostly a horrifying mess for those who were in the thick of it. Tolstoy explores this quite well in "war and peace".
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Wed Aug 19, 2015 12:09 pm

Zaereas wrote:
Laerod wrote:What kind of a person considers WWII as the pinnacle of "honorable combat"?


Honourable combat died with Napoleon.

What is honorable combat exactly?
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Postby Laerod » Wed Aug 19, 2015 12:11 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Zaereas wrote:
Honourable combat died with Napoleon.

What is honorable combat exactly?

Off topic.

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Postby Kratu » Wed Aug 19, 2015 12:11 pm

Zaereas wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:May I ask why you think the Nazis should have won?


With a unified Nazi Europe, our modern period of decadence would never have come about. The soviets would have been pushed back to the Urals, and war would still be going on around there, and I could imagine the UK would be a nuisance to rule over, what with all the plans for insurrection and resistance, but it would be a relatively peaceful life in occupied Europe, provided you fit the bill physically and mentally.


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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Wed Aug 19, 2015 12:18 pm

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Oh. Not that kind of 'General', huh? Damnation.

Laerod wrote:
Shamhnan Insir wrote:We'll never see a war like it again. And I say this, in truth, with sadness.
The way we fight now sucks out any possibility for honour and true armed combat.

What kind of a person considers WWII as the pinnacle of "honorable combat"?

I don't know, in a way he has a point. After WWII most 'war' became a police action, a counter-insurgency operation, or a proxy activity between the two major superpowers using native militias and very often characterized by resistance movements or forced recognition of more complex matters at work within the country we were at war with that led to the war itself.

WWII was the last time 'total war' was practical and carried out without either apology or even alternative, and by some standards that equates to 'honorable'.
Granted, somewhat off-kilter standards, but that's the breaks.
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Postby Laerod » Wed Aug 19, 2015 12:22 pm

Occupied Deutschland wrote:I'm available for any question anyone might want to...
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Laerod wrote:What kind of a person considers WWII as the pinnacle of "honorable combat"?

I don't know, in a way he has a point. After WWII most 'war' became a police action, a counter-insurgency operation, or a proxy activity between the two major superpowers using native militias and very often characterized by resistance movements or forced recognition of more complex matters at work within the country we were at war with that led to the war itself.

WWII was the last time 'total war' was practical and carried out without either apology or even alternative, and by some standards that equates to 'honorable'.
Granted, somewhat off-kilter standards, but that's the breaks.

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Postby Islamic Meritocratic Transoxiana » Wed Aug 19, 2015 12:39 pm

All the honor talk makes me think of this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S72nI4Ex_E0
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Postby The Krogan » Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:24 am

Islamic Meritocratic Transoxiana wrote:All the honor talk makes me think of this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S72nI4Ex_E0


First time I saw that movie I liked it, watched it again like 5 years later and thought it was shit.
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Postby Napkiraly » Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:47 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Zaereas wrote:
Honourable combat died with Napoleon.

What is honorable combat exactly?

I guess fighting fairly. Though that's generally a good way to increase your chances of losing.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Aug 20, 2015 5:26 am

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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:What is honorable combat exactly?

I guess fighting fairly. Though that's generally a good way to increase your chances of losing.

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Postby The Krogan » Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:16 pm

Just watched Letters from Iwo Jima, that's a sad freaking movie.
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Postby The Krogan » Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:17 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Zaereas wrote:
Honourable combat died with Napoleon.

What is honorable combat exactly?


It's bullshit is what it is. :p
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Postby The Conez Imperium » Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:29 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:What is honorable combat exactly?

I guess fighting fairly. Though that's generally a good way to increase your chances of losing.


There's nothing honourable in war. Though you can treat POWs with honour and respect.
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Postby Morrow den » Thu Aug 20, 2015 5:50 pm

A WW2 thread? I love it! I build model kits of WW2 tanks and figures(sadly not very often now college and such) but used to be really into it. However I admit I honestly don't know about a lot of things about the War.

My question is simple what was the most important battle of WW2 I was thinking Stalingrad but would love to hear others opinions.
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Postby The Krogan » Thu Aug 20, 2015 5:58 pm

Morrow den wrote:A WW2 thread? I love it! I build model kits of WW2 tanks and figures(sadly not very often now college and such) but used to be really into it. However I admit I honestly don't know about a lot of things about the War.

My question is simple what was the most important battle of WW2 I was thinking Stalingrad but would love to hear others opinions.


Mehhh there are several key battles in different theaters of war,
Sicily invasion,
Normandy Landings,
Allied invasion of the Netherlands,
battles in North Africa,
battles on the Eastern front,
the War in the Atlantic,
Pacific Campaigns,
Etc, etc, etc,

I think there isn't any single battle that is the most important, more like the culmination of them all.
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Postby Morrow den » Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:02 pm

The Krogan wrote:
Morrow den wrote:A WW2 thread? I love it! I build model kits of WW2 tanks and figures(sadly not very often now college and such) but used to be really into it. However I admit I honestly don't know about a lot of things about the War.

My question is simple what was the most important battle of WW2 I was thinking Stalingrad but would love to hear others opinions.


Mehhh there are several key battles in different theaters of war,
Sicily invasion,
Normandy Landings,
Allied invasion of the Netherlands,
battles in North Africa,
battles on the Eastern front,
the War in the Atlantic,
Pacific Campaigns,
Etc, etc, etc,

I think there isn't any single battle that is the most important, more like the culmination of them all.


Probably should have worded it better with what do you think was the most important battles on all the different fronts.
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Postby The Sotoan Union » Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:03 pm

Zaereas wrote:
Laerod wrote:What kind of a person considers WWII as the pinnacle of "honorable combat"?


Honourable combat died with Napoleon.

Honorable combat died with the Hundred Years War.

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Postby The Krogan » Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:06 pm

The Sotoan Union wrote:
Zaereas wrote:
Honourable combat died with Napoleon.

Honorable combat died with the Hundred Years War.


honorable combat died when the first sentient being clubbed another to death for some grapes.
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