The NS Mens Rights Thread

[May Mays]

The idea that people exist just to reproduce is bullshit.

Naive bullshit.

Emotion, passion trumps that completely.

The guys who complain about not being able to get women can have great looks. But they refuse to believe that any problem lies within themselves, blaming society or "the system." Betas who complain about women being attracted to jerks and not being able to see how nice they are

Guys have problems, but modern dating/relationships is one that you can solve yourself. Guys complain about women taking too long to decide, as pointed out by a previous post. She's made a decision. She decided you. So now, you need to make decisions. Don't be an ass about it. But you have to be assertive.

This is not an issue, at all.

The real issue is victim silencing.

[Irona]

Victims and perpetrators of what? Do you think it affects all crimes?

I think this link that Ostro posted up earlier is a good example of the problem.


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/quee ... 1440885765

This link works, sentenced to 6.5 years in jail and eligible for parole after only 18 months!

Thats messed up, the whole culture of 'it's not rape if a women does it' is disgusting like it matters less if perpetrator is female

[New Ogunquit]

Betas who complain about women being attracted to jerks and not being able to see how nice they are

I agree. Are you being nice because you love her? Or nice so you can just sleep with her? People can see through that.

[Haktiva]

Betas who complain about women being attracted to jerks and not being able to see how nice they are

I agree. Are you being nice because you love her? Or nice so you can just sleep with her? People can see through that.

the "nice guys" are projecting what they want from the woman(or guy) they're perusing. At least that's what I heard. Treat others how you wanna be treated right?

[May Mays]

I agree. Are you being nice because you love her? Or nice so you can just sleep with her? People can see through that.

the "nice guys" are projecting what they want from the woman(or guy) they're perusing. At least that's what I heard. Treat others how you wanna be treated right?

Basically except that's the fastest way to the friendzone there is.

[Haktiva]

the "nice guys" are projecting what they want from the woman(or guy) they're perusing. At least that's what I heard. Treat others how you wanna be treated right?

Basically except that's the fastest way to the friendzone there is.

because the girls all want Chad Thundercock right?

[May Mays]

Basically except that's the fastest way to the friendzone there is.

because the girls all want Chad Thundercock right?

Nope they want Anthony Alpha

Sadly a big dick isn't a sure path to suckcess

[Haktiva]

because the girls all want Chad Thundercock right?

Nope they want Anthony Alpha

Sadly a big dick isn't a sure path to suckcess

I see what you did there

Turd Flinging Monkey does some good work on Alpha and Beta males. Sexual dimorphism plays quite a big role in how the species acts, doesn't it. Betas have to rely on pair bonding for the most part, while Alphas mostly go for tournament style.

The real curve ball is the guys who don't wanna play the mating game, at least not in the traditional, or gynocentric sense.

[Alyakia]

i found a perfect solution to this problem it's called not caring

it might seem weird at first but you will soon come to realize massive benefits and gain an appreciation of how much sex dominates social discourse at almost every level

[Haktiva]

i found a perfect solution to this problem it's called not caring

it might seem weird at first but you will soon come to realize massive benefits and gain an appreciation of how much sex dominates social discourse at almost every level

yeah it's really weird how much clearer things are when you stop chasing tail. not advocating celibacy or anything, but when you place the biological imperative on the back burner, you tend to see how a lot of it is straight up bullshit.

[May Mays]

Nope they want Anthony Alpha

Sadly a big dick isn't a sure path to suckcess

I see what you did there

Turd Flinging Monkey does some good work on Alpha and Beta males. Sexual dimorphism plays quite a big role in how the species acts, doesn't it. Betas have to rely on pair bonding for the most part, while Alphas mostly go for tournament style.

The real curve ball is the guys who don't wanna play the mating game, at least not in the traditional, or gynocentric sense.

No betas just get nowhere until much later in life. Pair bonding will still work better for alphas. Supplication never has and never will get anybody anywhere. Whether for personal sexual advances or society as a whole. The idea the feminist movement is reinforcing (that supplication is the only acceptable path) will lead to a lot more frustrated men. Some guys get so frustrated to the point that they resort to rape. Arguably, if there are more supplicative men then the gene pool will be better, but society has advanced past the point where maintaining an ideal gene pool is the goal.

[Bogdanov Vishniac]

work on Alpha and Beta males sense

You guys do know that this 'alpha' and 'beta' stuff is based upon outmoded and badly designed ethology that even the originating researcher disowned, right? I would hate to think that you're not just saying this stuff ironically and you actually believe this stuff, since that would be terribly embarrassing.

[Haktiva]

work on Alpha and Beta males sense

You guys do know that this 'alpha' and 'beta' stuff is based upon outmoded and badly designed ethology that even the originating researcher disowned, right? I would hate to think that you're not just saying this stuff ironically and you actually believe this stuff, since that would be terribly embarrassing.

all I know is that humans are sexually dimorphic as a species. males are typically bigger, faster and stronger than women. Guys who can pass for a woman with a cocktail dress silhouette test have low sexual dimorphism, usually.

[Kelinfort]

Nope they want Anthony Alpha

Sadly a big dick isn't a sure path to suckcess

I see what you did there

Turd Flinging Monkey does some good work on Alpha and Beta males. Sexual dimorphism plays quite a big role in how the species acts, doesn't it. Betas have to rely on pair bonding for the most part, while Alphas mostly go for tournament style.

The real curve ball is the guys who don't wanna play the mating game, at least not in the traditional, or gynocentric sense.

I'll never understand why people focus on such bullshit as Alpha's vs Beta's.

[May Mays]

work on Alpha and Beta males sense

You guys do know that this 'alpha' and 'beta' stuff is based upon outmoded and badly designed ethology that even the originating researcher disowned, right? I would hate to think that you're not just saying this stuff ironically and you actually believe this stuff, since that would be terribly embarrassing.

It's an oversimplification used to explain things in a simple manner.

[Haktiva]

I see what you did there

Turd Flinging Monkey does some good work on Alpha and Beta males. Sexual dimorphism plays quite a big role in how the species acts, doesn't it. Betas have to rely on pair bonding for the most part, while Alphas mostly go for tournament style.

The real curve ball is the guys who don't wanna play the mating game, at least not in the traditional, or gynocentric sense.

No betas just get nowhere until much later in life. Pair bonding will still work better for alphas. Supplication never has and never will get anybody anywhere. Whether for personal sexual advances or society as a whole. The idea the feminist movement is reinforcing (that supplication is the only acceptable path) will lead to a lot more frustrated men. Some guys get so frustrated to the point that they resort to rape. Arguably, if there are more supplicative men then the gene pool will be better, but society has advanced past the point where maintaining an ideal gene pool is the goal.

to be honest it's hard to care about the species anymore, but I'm a MGTOW so I'm a selfish prick anyways.

society is always going to be gynocentric. women are more valuable according to the species because they're the limiting factor in reproduction. for now anyways.

[Haktiva]

I see what you did there

Turd Flinging Monkey does some good work on Alpha and Beta males. Sexual dimorphism plays quite a big role in how the species acts, doesn't it. Betas have to rely on pair bonding for the most part, while Alphas mostly go for tournament style.

The real curve ball is the guys who don't wanna play the mating game, at least not in the traditional, or gynocentric sense.

I'll never understand why people focus on such bullshit as Alpha's vs Beta's.

it depends on who you talk to. I look at it from a nature point of view. others see it as an attitude thing and use it to get girls(PUAs, peackocking, etc).

[Kelinfort]

I'll never understand why people focus on such bullshit as Alpha's vs Beta's.

it depends on who you talk to. I look at it from a nature point of view. others see it as an attitude thing and use it to get girls(PUAs, peackocking, etc).

I'll never understand it, anyway. To me, it's whining by angry men who are misanthropic and the business centered around that.

[Bogdanov Vishniac]

You guys do know that this 'alpha' and 'beta' stuff is based upon outmoded and badly designed ethology that even the originating researcher disowned, right? I would hate to think that you're not just saying this stuff ironically and you actually believe this stuff, since that would be terribly embarrassing.

It's an oversimplification used to explain things in a simple manner.

An oversimplification used to explain an outmoded and incontrovertibly wrong theory.

Is that supposed to be better?

[Haktiva]

It's an oversimplification used to explain things in a simple manner.

An oversimplification used to explain an outmoded and incontrovertibly wrong theory.

Is that supposed to be better?

how's the theory wrong, if you care to explain?

[May Mays]

I'll never understand why people focus on such bullshit as Alpha's vs Beta's.

it depends on who you talk to. I look at it from a nature point of view. others see it as an attitude thing and use it to get girls(PUAs, peackocking, etc).

The seduction community has a twisted understanding of alpha.

Most of them use a persona and fail to actually be "alpha."

[May Mays]

It's an oversimplification used to explain things in a simple manner.

An oversimplification used to explain an outmoded and incontrovertibly wrong theory.

Is that supposed to be better?

You mean the fact that there never has been and never will be a woman (with a few exceptions as for all things in life) attracted to supplication?

[Haktiva]

it depends on who you talk to. I look at it from a nature point of view. others see it as an attitude thing and use it to get girls(PUAs, peackocking, etc).

The seduction community has a twisted understanding of alpha.

Most of them use a persona and fail to actually be "alpha."

in other words, they all try and be Johnny Bravo

[Bogdanov Vishniac]

An oversimplification used to explain an outmoded and incontrovertibly wrong theory.

Is that supposed to be better?

how's the theory wrong, if you care to explain?

In the past, the prevailing view on gray wolf packs was that they consisted of individuals vying with each other for dominance, with dominant gray wolves being referred to as the "alpha" male and female, and the subordinates as "beta" and "omega" wolves. This terminology was first used in 1947 by Rudolf Schenkel of the University of Basel, who based his findings on researching the behavior of captive gray wolves. This view on gray wolf pack dynamics was later popularized by L. David Mech in his 1970 book The Wolf. He formally disavowed this terminology in 1999, explaining that it was heavily based on the behavior of captive packs consisting of unrelated individuals, an error reflecting the once prevailing view that wild pack formation occurred in winter among independent gray wolves. Later research on wild gray wolves revealed that the pack is usually a family consisting of a breeding pair and its offspring of the previous 1–3 years.[86]

[May Mays]

Nobody uses that in reference to humans.

Nobody normal fucks their kids. We fuck unrelated individuals.

wew glad that's out of the way lads