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Postby Aelex » Fri Aug 14, 2015 2:14 pm

It's honestly quite strange how much parallels there is between Chess's feminism and post-october bolchevism. I mean... Wow... Just... Wow...
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Postby New Frenco Empire » Fri Aug 14, 2015 2:25 pm

How about...women can do whatever the fuck they want and don't have to restrict themselves for anyone, be they men or "feminists" trying to "liberate" them?
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Postby The Rich Port » Fri Aug 14, 2015 2:25 pm

Aelex wrote:It's honestly quite strange how much parallels there is between Chess's feminism and post-october bolchevism. I mean... Wow... Just... Wow...


Or misogynistic men's rights activists, for that matter.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Fri Aug 14, 2015 5:25 pm

Val Halla wrote:I wonder; Does she think the only way we'll be equal is by taking away everybody's rights?


I wouldn't be surprised. I'm under the impression that she secretly wants things like cosmetic surgeries and stuff, but can't afford it. So if she can't have it, no one else can.

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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Fri Aug 14, 2015 5:51 pm

One positive thing I can say about Chess: her... unique logic never ceases to amaze.
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Postby Nilla Wayfarers » Fri Aug 14, 2015 5:53 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:One positive thing I can say about Chess: her... unique logic never ceases to amaze.

Her unique "logic" :p
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Postby Hydesland » Fri Aug 14, 2015 5:54 pm

I agree that young people feeling pressured to get breast implants isn't necessarily a good thing, but outlawing the practice is probably not effective.

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:04 pm

Nilla Wayfarers wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:One positive thing I can say about Chess: her... unique logic never ceases to amaze.

Her unique "logic" :p

Her "unique" logic. :D
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Postby Wallenburg » Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:44 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Nilla Wayfarers wrote:Her unique "logic" :p

Her "unique" logic. :D

It is quite peculiar to her, at least among notorious NSers.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:58 pm

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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Her "unique" logic. :D

It is quite peculiar to her, at least among notorious NSers.

"Her" unique logic.
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Postby Mysterious Stranger 2 » Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:59 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:It is quite peculiar to her, at least among notorious NSers.

"Her" unique logic.

His unique logic. NGOTI.

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Postby Deuxtete » Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:59 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:It is quite peculiar to her, at least among notorious NSers.

"Her" unique logic.

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Deuxtete wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:"Her" unique logic.

That's not called for.

""Her unique logic.

See what I'm doing here?
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Postby Deuxtete » Fri Aug 14, 2015 7:11 pm

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Deuxtete wrote:That's not called for.

""Her unique logic.

See what I'm doing here?

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Aug 14, 2015 7:18 pm

Deuxtete wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:""Her unique logic.

See what I'm doing here?

Spamming

Touche.

I was done anyway. Sorry.
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Postby Liberonscien » Fri Aug 14, 2015 11:13 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Chessmistress wrote:
No.
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My idea is softer: I recognize she's right but I think about a massive awareness campaign and maybe even a special taxation on breast implants and the like: breasts implants it's an "issue" mostly pertaining richer women, so it shouldn't be a problem for them paying something like 20% or 25% more in order to please males.


You're ignoring that fact that the NHS in the UK provides around 4,500 breast implant surgeries and treatment for various conditions each year. They are not all to please males.

I think she forgot about lesbians.
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Postby Liberonscien » Fri Aug 14, 2015 11:23 pm

Chessmistress wrote:
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That's my fault for not opening the spoilers. It says it plainly: "moderately TERF".

My position about transexualism is always the same: FREE surgeries, as long these surgeries are FULL transitions (otherwise I perceive it like a scam, sorry), coupled with massive fight to erase the whole concept of gender: by doing so, a day they'll no need surgeries anymore.
How many "inclusive" feminists are advocating for free surgeries for transpeople?

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Postby New Grestin » Fri Aug 14, 2015 11:27 pm

I know that we all know this is a bullshit idea and that Chess has left, having accomplished her goal of rustling our jimmies, but I think it could be argued that this is everything wrong with modern radical feminism.

Modern Radical Feminists can't accept that the battle in the Western world is, for the most part, over. Instead, they need to keep inventing monsters to slay when there clearly aren't ones. They can't be bothered to go fight the actual patriarchy in undeveloped nations where gender inequality is a very real, very problematic thing, so they invent new problems to "solve."
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Postby Mysterious Stranger 2 » Fri Aug 14, 2015 11:29 pm

New Grestin wrote:I know that we all know this is a bullshit idea and that Chess has left, having accomplished her goal of rustling our jimmies, but I think it could be argued that this is everything wrong with modern radical feminism.

Modern Radical Feminists can't accept that the battle in the Western world is, for the most part, over. Instead, they need to keep inventing monsters to slay when there clearly aren't ones. They can't be bothered to go fight the actual patriarchy in undeveloped nations where gender inequality is a very real, very problematic thing, so they invent new problems to "solve."

I don't know that modern radfems are any worse than the radfems of the sixties.

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Postby New Grestin » Fri Aug 14, 2015 11:31 pm

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New Grestin wrote:I know that we all know this is a bullshit idea and that Chess has left, having accomplished her goal of rustling our jimmies, but I think it could be argued that this is everything wrong with modern radical feminism.

Modern Radical Feminists can't accept that the battle in the Western world is, for the most part, over. Instead, they need to keep inventing monsters to slay when there clearly aren't ones. They can't be bothered to go fight the actual patriarchy in undeveloped nations where gender inequality is a very real, very problematic thing, so they invent new problems to "solve."

I don't know that modern radfems are any worse than the radfems of the sixties.

I felt I should make the distinction to ensure that people couldn't pull the "generalization" card, but I agree.

Except now, instead of bra burnings, we get Big Sister and the uber-feminists coming to take away women's freedom in the name of stopping "oppression".
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Postby Hladgos » Fri Aug 14, 2015 11:32 pm

Sorry, but I don't think we need to baby adults by telling them what they can and can't do. Sometimes freedom is more important than personal opinion.
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Postby Wallenburg » Fri Aug 14, 2015 11:36 pm

Hladgos wrote:Sorry, but I don't think we need to baby adults by telling them what they can and can't do. Sometimes freedom is more important than personal opinion.

Freedom is ALWAYS more important than one person's opinion.
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Postby Mysterious Stranger 2 » Fri Aug 14, 2015 11:42 pm

New Grestin wrote:
Mysterious Stranger 2 wrote:I don't know that modern radfems are any worse than the radfems of the sixties.

I felt I should make the distinction to ensure that people couldn't pull the "generalization" card, but I agree.

Except now, instead of bra burnings, we get Big Sister and the uber-feminists coming to take away women's freedom in the name of stopping "oppression".

I mean, none of chessmisstress' ideas would be particularly out of place in the original lesbian feminist circles. If anything, they're anachronistic in the modern day.
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Postby Liberonscien » Fri Aug 14, 2015 11:42 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Chessmistress wrote:
^this^
I don't agree too with outlawing breast augmentation: I just think about an awareness campaign combined with a taxation on breast augmentation in order to finance the awareness campaign, that should be massive.

I don't agree with the taxation idea, either. And, by the way, you have been appealing to authority by constantly throwing your professor's professorship in our faces. Professors of Feminism can be wrong, too, you know, even about feminism.

I've corrected my professor of math before.
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Postby Liberonscien » Fri Aug 14, 2015 11:51 pm

Galloism wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:Because when you lose weight, you lose it from all over your body. And I do not want small breasts,

I go on record here and now:

There is nothing wrong with small breasts!

Ever considered that maybe she wants them big to make her happy, not someone else?
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