Why do we exist?

[Kinckobanina and Wherpvelna]

Please don't make this into a militant atheist snark fest.

[Big Jim P]

OK, thanks for the info. No different from my saying "Hail Satan!".

Then why create beings to worship you?

Personally, I think it is because God's (swt) unparalleled glory, etc. deserves worship in the same way a magnificent painting deserves praise, or an astonishingly good book deserves good reviews. Therefore God (swt) ordained the establishment of humanity that we might worship him as he justly deserves. But that's just a personal theory, not being privy to God's (swt) mind, I honestly couldn't tell you for sure ^_^

That still implies the need for something external to provide meaning.

I give you props for "But that's just a personal theory, not being privy to God's (swt) mind, I honestly couldn't tell you for sure". Not many theists have this attitude.

[Big Jim P]

Please don't make this into a militant atheist snark fest.

Me and Greater Tezdrian seem to be having a respectful discussion. Don't make me break out my snark cannon.

[Greater Tezdrian]

Personally, I think it is because God's (swt) unparalleled glory, etc. deserves worship in the same way a magnificent painting deserves praise, or an astonishingly good book deserves good reviews. Therefore God (swt) ordained the establishment of humanity that we might worship him as he justly deserves. But that's just a personal theory, not being privy to God's (swt) mind, I honestly couldn't tell you for sure ^_^

That still implies the need for something external to provide meaning.

I don't think it does. Or at least, that isn't what I'm getting from it. Just because X deserves Y does not mean that, in the absence of Y, X is necessarily lesser.

[Big Jim P]

That still implies the need for something external to provide meaning.

I don't think it does. Or at least, that isn't what I'm getting from it. Just because X deserves Y does not mean that, in the absence of Y, X is necessarily lesser.

I do see where you are coming from. This just essentially boils down to our differences in how we view the world.

[Greater Tezdrian]

I don't think it does. Or at least, that isn't what I'm getting from it. Just because X deserves Y does not mean that, in the absence of Y, X is necessarily lesser.

I do see where you are coming from. This just essentially boils down to our differences in how we view the world.

Fair enough then.

[Sociobiology]

What is it about humans? Humans, animals that wander the earth, that supposedly dominate all other animals, animals that have reached the unfathomable ends of the universe. We are a confusing species. Why are we here, what has put us here, were did everything that exists in our universe and our own line of logic come from to an unfathomable ending. We look at the Earth for too long, we no longer question its reality as an actual question amongst the very answer. We look at the universe as much as we can, but we meticulously inspect the immersive systems of stars and planets, peruse or simply observe the supernovas, only to find nothing.

The answer, is much more deeper. It is within us, our very selves and our consciousness.

The world is something that to us, is a mass of sensations, and we lack seeing the law uphoning one's world, and to be removed, would allow for us, our worlds, to become nothing.

So, now, it is time for the questions.

How do you think we "exist"? Do we simply perceive it? Or is it something that we already know, or something that has been made that we have not found yet? Is our purpose in one's higher being? Have they created us, out conscious, only for us to play with sticks and stones and find what they were put on the world for a reason? Or not?

In my own opinion, I believe we perceive ourselves in our own independent fashions, on this world as an interpretation for our consciousness to rest, to act out the monotony of life in a physical body.

well in the begining there was nothing, which exploded...

{deep inhale}
~8billion years after the big bang the sun formed thru the natural process of gravitational accretion,the act of falling in spaces causes spin to be imparted causing the whole clou to begin to resemble a disc instead. planets formed form the spinning disc of debris around the forming sun thru the same process. the difference in momentum between the inner and outer parts of these spheres imparts rotation. the inner planets have heavier elemental composition than the outer planets as would be expected in an accretion disc. about half a billion years after that, the protoplanet forming between mars and Jupiter is thrown off course by its proximity to jupiter, and it collides with the still molten earth. as the ejecta from this impacts orbits the earth, it undergoes accretion as well and forms our low density moon. the heavier parts fall back to earth resulting in a planet rich in heavy elements and a moon rich in light elements.

as the earth cools, out-gassing hydrogen and oxygen combine into water which at about 4.5 billion years the earth and its water vapor are cool enough to form solid rock and liquid water. about 300 million years after that the natural build up of organic acids, one or many of the RNA chains capable of self-replication was formed, once any of these exist and start self replicating evolution and the wall effect ensures that they will continue to produce better and more complex forms of reproduction, including defenses from unwanted chemical reactions, utilization of available energy sources, and sequestration of resources.AKA cells. this process continues for a few hundred million more years until the dwindling availability of naturally occurring acids, evolution favors any cell that can manufacture its own amino and nucleic acids. evolution will continue to drive species into an environment with resources and any niche available form predator to producer to scavenger.

I can go further in to Pikea to fish to tetrapods to amphibians to reptiles to mammals and birds, and how mammals fucked themselves over and need dentists, but I have shit to do.

[Ndaku]

Because by assumption, that's what you're saying.

My mother says you shouldn't assume things. This is why.

You're being too literal here. By your given statement "perfection is impossible outside of math" one can assume you're saying God is imperfect.

I am.

God is immeasurable.

So's my girlfriend.

I honestly have no idea where you're getting at here. You're making absolutely no sense here.

[Yedmnrutika Gavr]

theres no good answer to this question yet. on a quantum level at least, opposing particles seemingly appear in and out of nowhere. these virtual particles violate other laws of physics as we know it too. maybe we should look there for answers of our existence and the big bang.

[The Andromeda Confederation]

theres no good answer to this question yet. on a quantum level at least, opposing particles seemingly appear in and out of nowhere. these virtual particles violate other laws of physics as we know it too. maybe we should look there for answers of our existence and the big bang.

Wrong. Look no further.

Is it not obvious? We exist to create dank memes.

[Yorkvale]

Eat, drink, fuck, and sleep.

On a more serious note, to have fun with the party that never stops (until it, ya know, stops.)

Preach it, Brother!

As far as I'm concerned, the stuff you feel is the stuff that gives you meaning. And I couldn't give a damn if that kind of thinking is responded to with an smh by my professor or academia >.>

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Because the Earth wanted plastic and didn't know how to make it.

[Non Conformists]

Because the Earth wanted plastic and didn't know how to make it.

And God said, "Let there be DuPont!", and thus the most elaborate evolutionary scheme ever witnessed within the universe began.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Wait, I got it!

We exist... To make Lamias a reality!

[Yuketobaniac unions]

We exist because of evolution.
A god can't exist if many world wars happen and other crimes against humanity.

What if he allows those to happen for future events that would accure to his prophecy.

[Shamhnan Insir]

Depending on which branch of theory you go down, you might not exist in between 10 to 26 or so, other "realities".
Or you could exist in possibly billions of other universes following the multiverse train of thought where each observation of reality you make could occur in different ways.

Then again, who's to say we exist at all? Or for that matter, if our existence really matters in such an impossibly sized ever expanding void of crazy?
Our existence might be a programme 'a la Matrix', or it could be an echo of a possibility that once was long ago.

However. The fact that we sit here and are even able to simply think about such a concept, let alone attempt to scry its meaning and debate its origin, surely means that we matter. No?

[Yedmnrutika Gavr]

theres no good answer to this question yet. on a quantum level at least, opposing particles seemingly appear in and out of nowhere. these virtual particles violate other laws of physics as we know it too. maybe we should look there for answers of our existence and the big bang.

Wrong. Look no further.

the unexamined life isnt worth living imo

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Depending on which branch of theory you go down, you might not exist in between 10 to 26 or so, other "realities".
Or you could exist in possibly billions of other universes following the multiverse train of thought where each observation of reality you make could occur in different ways.

Then again, who's to say we exist at all? Or for that matter, if our existence really matters in such an impossibly sized ever expanding void of crazy?
Our existence might be a programme 'a la Matrix', or it could be an echo of a possibility that once was long ago.

However. The fact that we sit here and are even able to simply think about such a concept, let alone attempt to scry its meaning and debate its origin, surely means that we matter. No?

i think so ya =) im not saying were important in the greater scheme of things just that im not a nihilist

[DnalweN acilbupeR]

We exist because life evolved on this rather standard planet and eventually a set of events billions of years later lead to the evolution of an animal intelligent enough to ask these questions.

At least, that's how it seems.

I don't think that was the question. You answered to "how?" not to "why".

Has anyone watched the Matrix?

[Mysterious Stranger 2]

You choose why you exist. So, why do you exist?

[Yedmnrutika Gavr]

We exist because life evolved on this rather standard planet and eventually a set of events billions of years later lead to the evolution of an animal intelligent enough to ask these questions.

At least, that's how it seems.

I don't think that was the question. You answered to "how?" not to "why".

Has anyone watched the Matrix?

haha too many times to count

[Mir i Ljubav]

No reason. *shrugs*

[The Grey Wolf]

While I used to have a hard time comprehending it, these past few months, I've begun to move closer and closer towards the Vedantist belief that life and the individual ego are illusions. So I guess my answer to the question "Why do we exist?" would be "Because we don't."

We exist because of evolution.
A god can't exist if many world wars happen and other crimes against humanity.

That assumes either God is omnibenevolent, or has an active relationship with the world.

[DnalweN acilbupeR]

I don't think that was the question. You answered to "how?" not to "why".

Has anyone watched the Matrix?

haha too many times to count

what i like about the idea presented in the movie is that it would be completely impossible to tell

[Rupudska]

You started a philosophical debate on NSG?

I hope you realize what sort of bottomless can of worms you have opened.

[The Andromeda Confederation]

Wrong. Look no further.

the unexamined life isnt worth living imo

Did you see the quote, lad? Because it was, in fact, a joke.