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Postby Prezelly » Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:02 pm

I exist because of a big set of coincidences. Lucky me right?
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Postby Jatteslakt » Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:04 pm

And there is a reason for why we exist because...?

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Postby Zoscua » Fri Aug 14, 2015 1:23 pm

We're an accident of chemistry. We have no purpose beyond that which we give ourselves.

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Postby The Cobalt Sky » Sat Aug 15, 2015 11:45 am

I don't know about you, but I exist because one day my dad went up to my mom and was like "Hey, I'd like to create a tinier version of myself," and she was like "Sounds dope, I can handle him for the first nine months," and then when I arrived my dad named me Mini Me.
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Postby Risottia » Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:40 pm

White Sox wrote:How do you think we "exist"? Do we simply perceive it?


We exist because we can be measured.
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Postby United States Kingdom » Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:38 pm

Empire of Zeeland wrote:We exist because of evolution.
A god can't exist if many world wars happen and other crimes against humanity.

:clap: :clap:

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Postby Benuty » Sat Aug 15, 2015 3:58 pm

United States Kingdom wrote:
Empire of Zeeland wrote:We exist because of evolution.
A god can't exist if many world wars happen and other crimes against humanity.

:clap: :clap:

A poor argument given the fact Morgan Freeman is clearly existing.
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Postby Luziyca » Sat Aug 15, 2015 4:05 pm

Because of sheer luck and circumstances beyond our control.
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Postby Yorkvale » Sat Aug 15, 2015 4:12 pm

United States Kingdom wrote:
Empire of Zeeland wrote:We exist because of evolution.
A god can't exist if many world wars happen and other crimes against humanity.

:clap: :clap:


I don't believe in God, but don't go ahead now and tell me this was a masterful post in deservance of applause. That argument is used to death, and he didn't even say it well he just gave 2 lines on it.

Can't disprove him, can't prove him, nor do I really care to.

Just live life, and if you're going to be an atheist don't be a prick about it.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sat Aug 15, 2015 4:16 pm

Our existence is meaningless and absurd. Even attempting to answer this question is absurd, and will always end in failure.

That said: We should continue to search and strive to live and continue and create meaning, however ridiculous and coincidental this universe may be.

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Postby Non Conformists » Sat Aug 15, 2015 4:34 pm

Jatteslakt wrote:And there is a reason for why we exist because...?

Because, because, because, beecaauuuse!
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Postby Non Conformists » Sat Aug 15, 2015 4:38 pm

Risottia wrote:We exist because we can be measured.

40 - 25 - 35
Oh yeah!
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Postby Wilkshire » Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:26 am

To paraphrase Basil Fawlty - "It beats me but we're stuck with it, I suppose..."

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Postby Herrebrugh » Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:34 am

I like to think we won the cosmic lottery.

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Our existence is meaningless and absurd. Even attempting to answer this question is absurd, and will always end in failure.

That said: We should continue to search and strive to live and continue and create meaning, however ridiculous and coincidental this universe may be.

See my signature. One must imagine Sisyphus happy.


Absolutely agreed.

Yorkvale wrote:
United States Kingdom wrote: :clap: :clap:


I don't believe in God, but don't go ahead now and tell me this was a masterful post in deservance of applause. That argument is used to death, and he didn't even say it well he just gave 2 lines on it.

Can't disprove him, can't prove him, nor do I really care to.

Just live life, and if you're going to be an atheist don't be a prick about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBRAlV5iOrM

Sound advice ^


It's a sound argument when used against the "loving" god some Christians point to (and there are plenty of god-concepts that can be logically disproven). When used against the existence of any god, not so much, though. I don't particularly see how arguing against the concept of a god is "being a prick about it", by the way.
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Postby Kilobugya » Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:34 am

There is no "why" in that, in the sense that there is no planned purpose for us.

There is a "how", we exist because the law of physics made stars burn hydrogen into heavier elements, the heavier elements form rocky planets, the laws of chemistry made a molecule able to replicate itself in at least one of those planets, the replicators made imperfect copies of themselves and those that were better at duplicating them mathematically happened to be more numerous in the next generations, kcking off evolution. Then evolution stumbled into more and more complex mechanisms to reproduce the molecules (the DNA), until it started developing information processing devices to better cope with a complex outside environment, until that information processing device (the brain) became so complicated and general-purpose that it was able to model the world including itself, creating self-awareness.

But there is no purpose of that - the purpose is something we, with the planning and goal-seeking ability of our brains, create. And while we are influenced by the blind and mindless forces that gave birth to us (many of our desires, behaviors, ... are the tricks evolution stumbled upon to maximize the number of copies of our genes), we have an ability to partially abstract and break free from them, and to create our own purpose.

What this purpose should be ? Well, it's open to discussion, and there probably shouldn't be a single one. But maximizing the fulfillment of human values and human happiness, spreading the beauty and awesomeness of self-aware life to other stars, understanding the laws of nature, getting rid of diseases, old age and death, finding ways for humans to cooperate instead of killing each others, ... are among the ones I believe we should thrive for.
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Postby Veceria » Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:42 am

I'm disappointed that this thread isn't just a thousand replies of "Why not?" ...
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Postby Planeia » Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:00 am

We just fucking do. There's no point in getting philosophical or religious or any of that bullshit. Deal with it.
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Postby CTALNH » Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:20 am

Bentrada wrote:
Empire of Zeeland wrote:We exist because of evolution.
A god can't exist if many world wars happen and other crimes against humanity.


I think a god can still exist despite the actions of humans.

If an Abrahamic god exists his an asshole.
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Postby Qamsar » Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:24 am

Why do we exist?

Because to enjoy a hot, sizzling sex life and good wine IMHO

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Postby CTALNH » Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:24 am

Qamsar wrote:Why do we exist?

Because to enjoy a hot, sizzling sex life and good wine IMHO

We wish...
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Postby Benuty » Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:43 am

CTALNH wrote:
Bentrada wrote:
I think a god can still exist despite the actions of humans.

If an Abrahamic god exists his an asshole.

Which one?

You have so many interpretations of the Abrahamic God it isn't even simple to generalize them (nor should it be).
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:51 am

I see why? in the title but how? in the body of text.

Why? doesn't really have a good answer because the question itself is based on the flawed premise that existence requires a purpose.

How? mechanically is rather easily explained by the bio-chemical sciences.

How? with regards to perception is a harder one. I'm not too sure.
I do agree with a lot of neurologists that conciousness is a product of the brain, based on the rather simple fact that damage to the brain also damages the "conciousness" or on perception, which is consistent with what you would expect if it were the by-product of a mechanical process.

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Postby New Werpland » Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:59 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Our existence is meaningless and absurd. Even attempting to answer this question is absurd, and will always end in failure.

That said: We should continue to search and strive to live and continue and create meaning, however ridiculous and coincidental this universe may be.

See my signature. One must imagine Sisyphus happy.

No, you can't create meaning out of nothing, it's meaningless. The only thing that can result out of nothing is nihilism.
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Postby Omega America II » Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:01 am

We exist because God made us exist. A purpose for God to make us is to contribute to society, to make something I guess you could say. I'm not God, so I can't say why we exist.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:17 am

Omega America II wrote:We exist because God made us exist. A purpose for God to make us is to contribute to society, to make something I guess you could say. I'm not God, so I can't say why we exist.


That's odd, because my parents made me.
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